imane khelif has been allegedly confirmed to be a man.

Fuck's sake, John Wayne has a more feminine walk than that.

That is because I and others bloody did! Even if there was no proof I would still think he was a man!

We women should know our place.

The IOC have declared that Khalief is a woman. Even though they know he is not.

We should therefore henceforth all kowtow to the IOC Gods who determine the sex categories. If the IOC say he is a woman who are we to judge? They have had a woman apologise to Khalief for her wrong doing in calling him a man. They are righteous and what are we to know?

Therefore henceforth anyone who says they are a woman IS a woman. This is the playbook. Even genetic tests aren't enough to prove that a man is a man. So this being the case it can only be the man's say so that counts.

And from this day hence any woman who disagrees with the IOC gods, let's not forget what happened in the 80's with the testosterone fueled East German Swimmers, is guilty of wrong think.

Can I ask you what that is about? Because I noticed all the women wore headscarves...

EDIT - to clarify. If he is voting in his home town where he grew up then surely he would be covering his head too?

It took me about 2 seconds to notice the male Barbie in the movie. A quick google when I left the cinema confirmed it.

Lots of people don't get to compete as much as they would like to - people born with physical disabilities or conditions that mean they never have a hope, people who suffer an accident or illness which rules put competition, so however shit it is to discover you have a condition that would eliminate you from the competition that doesn't mean you go ahead and cheat whilst also risking other people's lives to do so.

Here's footage of Khelif moving and walking:
x.com/RetourNews/status/1832818779048353882

Surely a Muslim woman would not allow herself (or be allowed, come to that) to be bear hugged, clapped on the back and carried on the shoulders of her male team/coaches/seconds etc?

Sure.

This male person failed two sex tests and has been reported by a Paris clinic (from one of their coaching team AND now an independent source) to have chromosomes that are not female AND started suppressing testosterone. No female athlete ever has to reduce naturally produced testosterone.

The IOC amended a press release that related to male athletes with DSDs and kept stating merely that Khelif has female in their passport. Which of course is consistent with being incorrectly registered at birth as female despite being a male who then went through a virilised puberty.

None of this above rests on any person needing to identity male body cues 100% of the time. None of it.

Yes.

Yes. However there are no DSDs found in females that fit with an athlete like Khelif. He's a male with a DSD, which this report confirms.

I'm not disagreeing with you- it's relevant because it's a response to discussion from others on the thread about them knowing that IK was a man from the way he looked and moved,

This older article by Reuters makes it fairly clear that a DSD is involved.

https://www.reuters.com/sports/olympics/olympics-dsd-rules-focus-womens-boxing-2024-07-31/

On the whole we can detect sex but I disagree with you about it being 100% foolproof.

That pp was quoting me. I did not intend to imply that women wear head guards because they have thinner skulls, but that men don't wear them because their greater punching power exposes them to a risk of torsion injuries caused by a glove catching the head guard. Reference to broken necks was hyperbole, I agree. I should have checked my source.

Why is this even relevant?

It's not. The issue is a proven male having just won a gold medal in a female event. At the bloody OLYMPICS. Why the hell was he allowed to compete?

I'm sure that this won't help sway anyone who still clings to the idea that IK is female.

However, for anyone who is unsure but now understands that it has been revealed that the DSD concerned is 46XY 5ARD, this chart will hopefully be helpful to confirm what this means.

Recently watched two series with actors who twigged something in my brain. Not a single other actor in either series, just these two had a mismatch - I KNEW they were female but both characters were male. so I googled them & sure enough they were FtM irl

I knew nothing of them prior, no idea about the casting in either series & nothing in the canon for one of them - but I knew.

As an aside - both were bloody brilliant in their roles & it made zero difference to me, I couldn't actually have cared less in that respect. But it was impossible to ignore my eyes when my brain was screaming at me that the maths was off somehow.

Seriously, why would Dr. Ioannis Filippatos be lying that he has seen the results of the sex tests done and that Khelif has male chromosomes and male level testosterone?

Do you believe a gynaecologist would not be able to read these test results and accurately report on them?

Indeed. This thread is about a cheating male. Maybe everyone should leave the sealion to their own devices now…

Khelif doesn't pass and even if he did, he has twice failed a sex test anyway. So why is any of this relevant?

@OneBadKitty because each and every one of them can be clocked a mile off in the real world, away from their filters on profile pics.

Perhaps it's my own history that has made me hyper vigilant of people around me, but I don't think I'm unique in my experience.

As I've said before, humans have accurately been able to deduce the sex of other adult humans for millennia. That hasn't suddenly changed because social contagion has created a situation where in the past 20 years suddenly hundreds of thousands of humans claim to be "born in the wrong body". We can still tell. And we have always been able to.

In my opinion, gender ideologues are misogynists who believe that women in the west somehow get special treatment.

The whole movement is a backlash against the minimum gained by women.7

This is why they jumped on the Imane Khelif scandal. This is why they will always deflect - its a special men's rights movement, nothing more, nothing less.

Please post anything you have seen on Reduxx that you have found to be false?

Why do you doubt this in the face of the evidence that has been uncovered so far and the lack of any contradiction by the IOC? nothing the IOC has stated contradicted what Reduxx initially reported nor the IBA official statements nor the information from Georges Carzola.

Considering Khelif has not given permission for any medical records to be released and is not likely to, exactly what do you expect main stream media to report?

Precisely this. Most of them mistake the fact that many people are too polite to bring it up for "passing"