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MIL wants itinerary of our holidays

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Gul8 · 04/11/2024 10:16

I'd like to know if I'm being unreasonable to request to not share itinerary with MIL every time we go on holiday?

Me and my DH are in our late 30s/early 40s with 2 primary school age DC.
Last time we went on a long-haul holiday MIL called the hotel we were staying at in a stress to make sure we arrived OK (hotel staff told us at breakfast). We were jetlagged and arrived in the middle of the night and DH was probably exhausted from a long flight with little kids and was going to text her a few hours later at breakfast.

I feel its quite intrusive that my DH shares a full itinerary of where we are at our holidays.

My family don't expect me to even tell them we've arrived OK on a foreign holiday let alone give them an itinerary of our hotel stays. My family are caring but I think they realize we are adults with our own families and at some point in adulthood you stop informing your parents of your holiday whereabouts?

I realize this is due to MIL concerns for our welfare and her anxieties probably but AIBU to want to try to put an end to this and tell her she needs to find a different way to manage her anxiety around her son and grandchildrens/my children's whereabouts?

I've already told her it makes me uncomfortable when she asked for details of a holiday in front me a while after that long-haul holiday, she responded that DH has always done it (I didn't know!) and she just wants to make sure her son and grandchildren are safe.

OP posts:
Gul8 · 04/11/2024 14:04

Fairyliz · 04/11/2024 13:59

Blimey my adult children text me when they arrive and sent 68000000 photos (okay a slight exaggeration).
Think they are glad I am interested in their life; I’ve never asked them to do this.

That's really lovely. Probably because you take an interest in their lives and never asked them to share as adults😊

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ForDogsSake · 04/11/2024 14:01

I can't imagine letting anyone know that I've arrived on my holiday, nor anyone letting me know that they've arrived.
Two of my kids are away on holiday at the moment, as far as I'm aware, they got there fine.
All we tell each other is the country they're going to and when.
No news is good news as far as I'm concerned.

TorroFerney · 04/11/2024 14:00

Ezekiela · 04/11/2024 13:55

Since my parents became too infirm for foreign travel, they like to travel vicariously through me, following my itinerary day by day, maybe with a map, and looking up some of the places I was visiting.

They would never phone a hotel to see if I had arrived safely. That's the bit I would have an issue with. The hotel shouldn't be giving out guests' details anyway.

MIL is much more chilled, says "If the plane crashes, I'll see it on the news" otherwise assumes everything is fine.

But that’s nice that’s showing an interest rather than checking up or panicking. Disclaimer my mum has zero interest in me and if I message to check she is ok when on holiday she just says yes or no and never asks about my holiday!

housemaus · 04/11/2024 14:00

Asking for a text to let her know you got there safe - fine, normal, usually more of a symbolic thing than actual concern about your physical safety.

Calling the hotel you're staying at because he forgot and not just texting him "Get there alright?" - really, really weird and overstepping to me. I'd shut that down immediately: largely because you can't indulge that level of anxiety and normalise it, because that isn't normal. Unless you're travelling somewhere known to be actively dangerous, she's being way over the top and if you (or rather your DH) acts as though that's normal the next thing it'll be 'oh can you stick your location sharing on' or whatever, like she'll just keep tightening the anxious control reins.

Fairyliz · 04/11/2024 13:59

Blimey my adult children text me when they arrive and sent 68000000 photos (okay a slight exaggeration).
Think they are glad I am interested in their life; I’ve never asked them to do this.

Laura268 · 04/11/2024 13:57

It's not the hill OP.

It's much more likely to be a 'her anxiety' thing, rather than a deliberate attempt to be intrusive.

Just tell your DH to take care of it.

Givemethreerings · 04/11/2024 13:56

What do you mean by itinerary?

To me that means a breakdown on what you’re doing every day of the holiday, locations and timing.

Or do you just mean name of hotel and flight arrival time?

Yes normal for us to send an “arrived safely” text but it might be the next day if we arrive in the middle of night and don’t have roaming data

thepariscrimefiles · 04/11/2024 13:55

ArtInTheMediumOfTurnip · 04/11/2024 13:30

I feel its quite intrusive that my DH shares a full itinerary of where we are at our holidays.

FGS this is why MIL and DIL have such tragic relationships. "Quite intrusive' really?

We always used to do this as a matter of course when anyone was travelling abroad and moving around in case of an emergency - so you would know which hotel they were in and when, just in case. It's hardly the end of the world. You probably tell your friends what you are doing in similar terms.

Flight numbers/times/ hotel names and dates at hotels would normally do.

The ONLY reason it bothers you is because it is your MIL showing she cares about her son and YOU don't like her.

Sigh.

She doesn't like it because MIL is phoning their hotel when her son doesn't update her on their safe arrival quickly enough.

She hasn't said she doesn't like her MIL, she just finds it intrusive, like lots of people would.

Ezekiela · 04/11/2024 13:55

Since my parents became too infirm for foreign travel, they like to travel vicariously through me, following my itinerary day by day, maybe with a map, and looking up some of the places I was visiting.

They would never phone a hotel to see if I had arrived safely. That's the bit I would have an issue with. The hotel shouldn't be giving out guests' details anyway.

MIL is much more chilled, says "If the plane crashes, I'll see it on the news" otherwise assumes everything is fine.

gladpurpledog · 04/11/2024 13:53

Text her your flight nr and it will turn into a link she can click on to see details of your flight, where it is and if it’s landed on time.

Gul8 · 04/11/2024 13:53

ArtInTheMediumOfTurnip · 04/11/2024 13:30

I feel its quite intrusive that my DH shares a full itinerary of where we are at our holidays.

FGS this is why MIL and DIL have such tragic relationships. "Quite intrusive' really?

We always used to do this as a matter of course when anyone was travelling abroad and moving around in case of an emergency - so you would know which hotel they were in and when, just in case. It's hardly the end of the world. You probably tell your friends what you are doing in similar terms.

Flight numbers/times/ hotel names and dates at hotels would normally do.

The ONLY reason it bothers you is because it is your MIL showing she cares about her son and YOU don't like her.

Sigh.

"The ONLY reason it bothers you is because it is your MIL showing she cares about her son and YOU don't like her."

This is really OTT. I think it'd be wonderful if my MIL had more quality time with her son/my DH, and I have encouraged and suggested they go on activities together and that he stays with her for a few days on his own (without me, without the kids). I have encouraged amd suggested this multiple times over our 15y relationship. This is derailing this post though.

I made this post to see beyond my own experiences with my family on the subject of sharing holiday details.

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Kool4katz · 04/11/2024 13:52

I say this as the mother of adult DC in their 40’s.

If she suffers from anxiety, pandering to her whims will only confirm to her that she’s entitled to know everything you’re doing and probably increase her fears too. I’d roll back on the amount of information you pass on.

I wait to get WhatsApp pics when they go on holiday and respond accordingly, although I suspect that the other granny might be similar to the OP’s MIL as she always wants to be involved in everything including inviting herself to our family party/meal out last year. I thought that was a bit much but said nothing and just paid the bill.

Firstimpressions · 04/11/2024 13:52

SP2024 · 04/11/2024 13:42

I always give my mum details of our holiday - usually a screen shot of the booking. So she knows flight numbers/times and hotel we’re staying at. In case there is an emergency and she can’t get hold of us (probably a hang over from when mobile signal abroad was bad) but also in case there was a plane crash or something she would know what flight we were on. I also always let her know when we arrive. She does the same when she goes away. I don’t think it’s overbearing at all.

That's lovely & extremely thoughtful. I despair of people who suggest you should never ever worry about people you love. It's natural. Knowing on a regular basis they are safe & well is all that's required.

Jellyslothbridge · 04/11/2024 13:50

If you leave details of location etc I would also leave details of how the info is used. This could be use only for life ending illness or death of close family and emergency at either end like a flood. Separately set expectations of contact - e.g arrived however If this was the norm I would talk through what if not contacted when expected and what steps to take or not take. There seems no point in having this habit if you have not got a plan if the message is not received, that to me feels like fake concern, controlling or enjoying a drama.

saraclara · 04/11/2024 13:48

I got a call from my brother to tell me that my mum had died, when I was on a long train journey in Portugal.
That worked out fine as I had a Portuguese SIM and a smartphone.

But back in the day, I'd have furnished the family with where I was staying. Because shit happens, and if you've done that one considerate thing, it makes it much easier for your family, as they don't have to panic and worry about trying to find you.

Obviously it would be even worse if a family member was very ill, as you might want to get back quickly to see them, and the wasted time could be significant.

So yes, that's why I used to share my accommodation contact details, and why I now make sure that my kids can get in touch with me, by having a local data SIM..

vegaspot · 04/11/2024 13:47

CurlewKate · 04/11/2024 12:17

What I can't understand is why people would be deliberately unkind. I don't know anyone in the real world who would refuse to take 30 seconds to reassure an anxious person. It's so depressing.

Yes I agree...I would never have worried my Mum unnecessarily just for the sake of a 5 sec text !
Thankfully my children are lovely thoughtful adults as well.

Whenwhenwhat · 04/11/2024 13:47

Before WhatsApp and easy mobile phone use my parents always presented us with a full itinerary of their holiday with hotels, flight numbers, emergency number for the travel firm, insurance company info. They travelled around a lot on each break so it often ran to two sides of A4 paper. I'm wondering if your MiL is similar age to my parents that it was the norm in the past and she hasn't quite adjusted to the fact that you can now get in touch much more easily and this is unnecessary levels of detail for the modern world?

SoloSofa24 · 04/11/2024 13:46

My mother used to do this. I think she saw worrying about people as a way of showing love, but for the recipient (me) it felt suffocating and controlling.

It wasn't too bad in the era before mobile phones, but once she could contact me at any time, it got worse - multiple phone calls to check up on me if I was later than she expected to arrive somewhere, even a perfectly normal journey in the UK.

And over time, I realised the more detail she knew about what I was doing and where I was meant to be, the more wound up she got if my plans changed or I was delayed and she didn't hear from me exactly when she expected to. It meant that increasingly I tried to tell her as little as possible about my life and movements to avoid being the subject of excessive anxiety and being forced to spend time and energy on calming her down.

It didn't help that she never got the hang of using a mobile herself, so I couldn't just text her, it had to be a phone call, which meant I ended up worrying if I was arriving somewhere late because she would still insist I called her even if it woke her up. In the end I just said no, I am not doing this any more. If anything bad happens to me, you will hear soon enough. My (now adult) children travel a lot, and I have never expected this kind of thing from them.

If your DH is reluctant to stop pandering to her, and if MiL is at all tech-savvy, would it work just to briefly share location with her via whatsapp or google maps, just so she knows you have arrived, rather than having to call her? I certainly would never give her hotel names and phone numbers again.

Brananan · 04/11/2024 13:42

I let mine know I've arrived and that I'm not going to be on my phone now for a week.or so.

SP2024 · 04/11/2024 13:42

I always give my mum details of our holiday - usually a screen shot of the booking. So she knows flight numbers/times and hotel we’re staying at. In case there is an emergency and she can’t get hold of us (probably a hang over from when mobile signal abroad was bad) but also in case there was a plane crash or something she would know what flight we were on. I also always let her know when we arrive. She does the same when she goes away. I don’t think it’s overbearing at all.

saraclara · 04/11/2024 13:41

WestwardHo1 · 04/11/2024 13:39

I say very firmly to my mum every time she tries to pull this bullshit that worry is not the same as love. No the relentless hounding of you on holiday because SHE has an anxiety problem is not showing her love - it's the opposite.

Edited

Relentless? She phoned a hotel once.

She shouldn't have done, of course, but you're exaggerating egregiously.

justasking111 · 04/11/2024 13:41

I follow them on flight radar breathe a sigh of relief when they land safely. Have no idea where they're staying, get lovely photos while they're there. That's it.

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 04/11/2024 13:41

I usually text the family WhatsApp group but with a look at this view or we've been here twenty minutes and ds is in the pool already type picture, it would be odd for me not to communicate at all during a holiday although I managed it other than the we landed call when I was 17/18 and mobiles abroad weren't really a thing . It wouldn't occur to me to give the hotel details etc to my parents or PIL if we have ours more conversational oh we've booked to go to Italy May half term, of that's nice where are you going, might send a link to the hotel when discussing the area.

TorroFerney · 04/11/2024 13:40

WestwardHo1 · 04/11/2024 13:39

I say very firmly to my mum every time she tries to pull this bullshit that worry is not the same as love. No the relentless hounding of you on holiday because SHE has an anxiety problem is not showing her love - it's the opposite.

Edited

Exactly, they are using you to self soothe. Get some therapy.

WestwardHo1 · 04/11/2024 13:39

I say very firmly to my mum every time she tries to pull this bullshit that worry is not the same as love. No the relentless hounding of you on holiday because SHE has an anxiety problem is not showing her love - it's the opposite.

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