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MIL wants itinerary of our holidays

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Gul8 · 04/11/2024 10:16

I'd like to know if I'm being unreasonable to request to not share itinerary with MIL every time we go on holiday?

Me and my DH are in our late 30s/early 40s with 2 primary school age DC.
Last time we went on a long-haul holiday MIL called the hotel we were staying at in a stress to make sure we arrived OK (hotel staff told us at breakfast). We were jetlagged and arrived in the middle of the night and DH was probably exhausted from a long flight with little kids and was going to text her a few hours later at breakfast.

I feel its quite intrusive that my DH shares a full itinerary of where we are at our holidays.

My family don't expect me to even tell them we've arrived OK on a foreign holiday let alone give them an itinerary of our hotel stays. My family are caring but I think they realize we are adults with our own families and at some point in adulthood you stop informing your parents of your holiday whereabouts?

I realize this is due to MIL concerns for our welfare and her anxieties probably but AIBU to want to try to put an end to this and tell her she needs to find a different way to manage her anxiety around her son and grandchildrens/my children's whereabouts?

I've already told her it makes me uncomfortable when she asked for details of a holiday in front me a while after that long-haul holiday, she responded that DH has always done it (I didn't know!) and she just wants to make sure her son and grandchildren are safe.

OP posts:
Noodles1234 · 05/11/2024 19:42

I usually let my parents know we have arrived ok, just a quick Whats App message and that’s it. Maybe the odd photo but rare. My parents don’t hound me, if they did I might not be as communicative. I think that’s key here, if they let go a bit you wouldn’t feel as hounded. You’re grown adults with your own family, I imagine they just care deeply and sometimes it can feel suffocating to some.

MyDreamyLilacMoose · 05/11/2024 19:34

OutVileJelly1 · 04/11/2024 14:38

The way you call his Mother 'Grandma' here is very telling - you do realise that, I am sure...

The more you argue your point, the more desperate for control you seem - Sorry.

Well is she not a grandma??

BigDeepBreaths · 05/11/2024 19:34

I hear you OP. My MIL needs all the details and tracks our flights etc. If its raining where we are we get texts “oh i do wonder if the DC are wearing coats….” FFS!

She claims anxiety which she doesnt exhibit in other areas of her life. She sent her DC to boarding school at age 8 and my DH does not recall frantic calls and texts about his whereabouts back then…only as an adult man in a relationship…making up for lost time perhaps?

Keep pushing back and dont enable this behaviour. We now tell MIL nothing until after its happened. Kids ill? Changing jobs? Weekend away? She is always put out at hearing last but she only has herself to blame.

persisted · 05/11/2024 19:32

I agree with you OP. I have never shared any of that with anyone and it would never occur to me that I should. If anyone asked for it I'd think it was very odd.
It would make me feel stifled, not loved. Like I was to much of an idiot to look after myself.

As a teenager in the 90s I travelled Europe on my own and my parents got a postcard every week. All this tracking nonsense is bananas.

MyDreamyLilacMoose · 05/11/2024 19:25

ArtInTheMediumOfTurnip · 04/11/2024 13:30

I feel its quite intrusive that my DH shares a full itinerary of where we are at our holidays.

FGS this is why MIL and DIL have such tragic relationships. "Quite intrusive' really?

We always used to do this as a matter of course when anyone was travelling abroad and moving around in case of an emergency - so you would know which hotel they were in and when, just in case. It's hardly the end of the world. You probably tell your friends what you are doing in similar terms.

Flight numbers/times/ hotel names and dates at hotels would normally do.

The ONLY reason it bothers you is because it is your MIL showing she cares about her son and YOU don't like her.

Sigh.

How does OP not liking her MIL automatically equate to her not liking that she cares about her son? I'm not following the correlation here.

Mary46 · 05/11/2024 19:16

It is controlling I think. Our mam does it. Feel its over involved in adults lives...

TheCompactPussycat · 05/11/2024 19:15

MyDreamyLilacMoose · 05/11/2024 19:02

And you don't think a grown-ass mom needing to now exactly her grown married son's whereabouts at all time isn't controlling either? Hmm..

Yes, as it happens, I do. I was replying to a poster who felt the OP should prevent the MIL's controlling behaviour by being controlling herself. If it isn't acceptable from the MIL, it isn't acceptable from the DIL.

Apparently for many posters on this thread it is though. Hmm indeed!

MyDreamyLilacMoose · 05/11/2024 19:02

TheCompactPussycat · 04/11/2024 11:40

Now that the OP knows her MIL is a nutter, she can certainly put a stop to her husband pandering to this rubbish, if she wants to.

Well she can if she wishes to style herself as a controlling nutter.

Or she could choose to be normal and let her (presumably grown-ass) husband tell who he chooses.

And you don't think a grown-ass mom needing to now exactly her grown married son's whereabouts at all time isn't controlling either? Hmm..

MyDreamyLilacMoose · 05/11/2024 18:55

Newname85 · 04/11/2024 11:26

She is worried about her son and grandkids. You don’t seem to care much about her so i don’t think this is about you at all.

Telling MIL where you are is not intrusive. May be it’s important for her to know how to reach her son if there is an emergency.

This is totally none of your business and you need to stop meddling/trying to control the dynamics of your MIL with her son.

Except it becomes her business when she is trying to vacation with her husband and he keeps giving mummy play by play updates interrupting their time together. I find it mind boggling that people think things involving their own spouse aren't there business as if it doesn't automatically affect them as well. You think his relationship with his mum won't trickle down to affect his wife somehow? Not to mention this is a sign of a mummy's boy and that he placates her anxiety and that's not a good sign at all for his wife that his marriage is put first.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 05/11/2024 18:43

It might be a generational thing - my DF always sends a detailed itinerary for holidays that and DM are taking to my brother and me. Maybe it comes from an age when travel was deemed more risky?

NerrSnerr · 05/11/2024 18:32

Can the people who like others to send an 'I have landed' text tell me what they're worried about? Is it a plane crash? Why is it such a massive thing to need to tell others the plane has arrived safely? Do you do it after the drive to work where statistically you're much more likely to die.

Niceandkneesy · 05/11/2024 18:14

While living in a Texan border town for 6 years (I was 30 yrs old) my mother never once called me to check I was safe.

Now she wants to know where I’m going, with whom and why. I tell her my arrival and that’s it.

OP it’s all about control and I for one won’t be controlled.

inappropriateraspberry · 05/11/2024 18:08

We go by 'no news is good news.' You're grown adults, why should she need to know anything?

Mosaic123 · 05/11/2024 16:15

It's not that terrible to send a one line text saying you've arrived. And one on your return.

I like that my sons do this.

Normallynumb · 05/11/2024 16:12

Mil doesn't need an itinerary of your holiday and nor should she have one!!
By coincidence my DS2 and GF are in Prague at the moment and I've had texts to say they landed and the odd photo.

OutVileJelly1 · 05/11/2024 15:37

Gul8 · 04/11/2024 14:54

Because this is what the hotel manager called her by when he told us?

Sorry if I'm not understanding why "grandma" is a bad thing to be calling her? I think I call her "grandma" around the kids but I'm from mainland Europe and English is my 2nd language so it may be a language thing? Didn't realize there was an issue with "grandma" as a word but maybe I'm misunderstanding your point here?

Of course you are misunderstanding....

Passive agression really is a look this season, darling

SaveMeFromMyBoobs · 05/11/2024 13:00

NerrSnerr · 05/11/2024 12:21

If the OP or any of her family would have died on the flight or the way to their hotel they'd be identified as they'd have had their passports on them so would have been identified. Unless you're in constant contact with people back home though out your holiday they wouldn't know you're missing anyway for a couple of days.

Very rare for a whole family to disappear when on holiday though, mainly only terrorist attack or natural disaster which is very rare.

We don't give our extended families an itinerary if our holiday, or every day life. There's so many more likely bad things that can happen then our whole family going missing.

I agree rare but still there is safety in knowing where people are.

Recently - Liam Payne. It hit the news very quickly. Within a couple hours. Disgraceful but it did. I'd hope the UK authorities were notified and they had police over at their house before it was released. But what if they'd been on holiday and no one knew where they were staying? Would they have not found out until next morning from the news and condolence texts? While unlikely to happen to average person the principle applies. If the worst were to happen and someone ended up in hospital on end of life care at home, if they know holiday hotel etc then you can be notified quickly to give an option of heading home ASAP.

If family drive out somewhere rural - if it was known where you were headed a search party knows where to look.

NerrSnerr · 05/11/2024 12:21

IsleOfPenguinBollards · 05/11/2024 10:38

Also, sorry to be morbid, but if the worst did happen, wouldn’t you want to be identified quickly so your relatives had the option of saying goodbye to you? A distant relative of mine was a missing person for a few days, but it turned out he’d died on the day he went missing. The family were desperate for answers. Unfortunately, the coroner had to return an open verdict.

If the OP or any of her family would have died on the flight or the way to their hotel they'd be identified as they'd have had their passports on them so would have been identified. Unless you're in constant contact with people back home though out your holiday they wouldn't know you're missing anyway for a couple of days.

Very rare for a whole family to disappear when on holiday though, mainly only terrorist attack or natural disaster which is very rare.

We don't give our extended families an itinerary if our holiday, or every day life. There's so many more likely bad things that can happen then our whole family going missing.

BlueLimeRun · 05/11/2024 11:12

It’s controlling behaviour and it must be irritating. I’d tell her it was unreasonable to call the hotel and you don’t want her to do this in future. It’s not up to you to manage her anxiety.

IsleOfPenguinBollards · 05/11/2024 10:38

Also, sorry to be morbid, but if the worst did happen, wouldn’t you want to be identified quickly so your relatives had the option of saying goodbye to you? A distant relative of mine was a missing person for a few days, but it turned out he’d died on the day he went missing. The family were desperate for answers. Unfortunately, the coroner had to return an open verdict.

SteamingHotTea · 05/11/2024 10:16

@Finallybreathingout I would honestly love to be like you but a lot of people worry, they can't help it. They often realise it is irrational. It is not something you can rationalise your way out of. If it was, no one would have mental health issues would they.

I think it is a balance if a member of your family is a worrier. Given them key updates to put their mind at rest - no need for incessant communication. They don't need the ins and outs of what you are doing every minute of the day - but a 'we just arrived at the hotel it is lovely' etc. is easy.

IsleOfPenguinBollards · 05/11/2024 09:34

If you went missing abroad, wouldn’t you want the police to have more to go on than “I think she’s somewhere in Tenerife”? After the floods in Valencia, whole families are missing. Just knowing which hotel/town your relatives are staying in would be a big help.

Finallybreathingout · 05/11/2024 09:29

northernballer · 05/11/2024 09:01

I have never told my Mum when I have arrived safely anywhere so the whole concept is bizarre to me. She works on the no news is good news principle and assumes if there had been a plane crash or something she would have heard about it on the news. Appreciate this is an unusual approach though!

It really isn’t. I’m also perplexed by the illogicality of the need to know where someone is all the time on holiday. An international flight is statistically a safer activity than crossing the road. I get there’s an emotional thing and I get that plenty of people like to say they’ve arrived safely and that’s fine! Each to their own. But to worry because you haven’t heard, or to be on alert because your family on holiday has hired a car and it might break down, is over worrying.

Jollyjoy · 05/11/2024 09:21

I totally get where you are coming from. I come from a family with a hippy mother who was encouraging me to hitchhike when I went travelling at 17 and I was the one saying ‘it’s not that safe mother’. And DH’s mother has a lot of anxiety, but it can never be acknowledged and it’s painted as normal behaviour. She expects texts all along the way of a journey to let her know where we are. My DH though won’t play along at all, and she knows I am more of a weak spot and find it hard to stand up to her!! She has 3 daughters who all play her game so I try to just let her know when we’ve arrived and ignore the other requests. It’s very pressuring and I don’t like it. She also tracks some of her grandkids as they travel and I wouldn’t be allowing this.

northernballer · 05/11/2024 09:01

I have never told my Mum when I have arrived safely anywhere so the whole concept is bizarre to me. She works on the no news is good news principle and assumes if there had been a plane crash or something she would have heard about it on the news. Appreciate this is an unusual approach though!

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