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AIBU to get my toddler a scale and polish?

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SpoonyFox · 04/11/2024 10:08

Hi, my LO is almost 2 and unfortunately has plaque already. This we believe was caused by having milk in the middle of the night. We have now stopped this and it’s been a few months but despite us always brushing LO’s teeth twice a day every day and having a good diet (no sweets or chocolates but does like a lot of fruit) the plaque just isn’t shifting. I’m considering booking LO in for a scale and polish. My husband think I’m being absolutely insane and that LO is far too young for such things but I’m worried that leaving it will cause her teeth to actually decay! Also it doesn’t look nice. I do have a tendency to obsess over things so and I am a highly anxious person so I was just looking for more opinions from others on what they would do? Thank you

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SpoonyFox · 04/11/2024 12:41

Yougetmoreofwhatyoufocuson · 04/11/2024 12:22

Xylitol mints. Give her one every day after the morning brush. It stops plaque from building up as it has nothing to stick to.

Thanks just had a look but not recommended for under 3 unless you know of any that are suitable for her age?

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SpoonyFox · 04/11/2024 12:36

ZippidyDeeDoo · 04/11/2024 12:17

Xylitol. Pop a little bit on your toddler's teeth. Should also help keep any decay at bay/remineralise early decay.

Thanks her normal toothpaste does contain xylitol already. It I get an actual ‘xylitol paste’ it then doesn’t contain fluoride so I don’t know which is best!

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FiveTreeHill · 04/11/2024 12:29

The only thing that causes tartar build up is plaque being left on the teeth I.e. poor brushing. Everyone gets plaque build up, some people are more prone to that plaque becoming calculus/tartar but if the plaque is thoroughly brushed away daily the tartar cannot form.

There is no way in hell a 2yo will sit through a scale and polish, and if anything will likely put her off going to the dentist. Tartar itself won't cause decay and is relatively harmless at 2

Continue to thoroughly brush her teeth twice a day and visit the dentist for 6 monthly check ups. When she's older she can have it gently hand scaled off, but using a sharp pointy object in a wiggly 2yos mouth is not a good idea

Yougetmoreofwhatyoufocuson · 04/11/2024 12:22

Xylitol mints. Give her one every day after the morning brush. It stops plaque from building up as it has nothing to stick to.

Toddlerteaplease · 04/11/2024 12:18

No way will a toddler tolerate a scale and polish! I hate them and I'm 43! And going to the dentist doesn't bother me at all. Except for that!

ZippidyDeeDoo · 04/11/2024 12:17

Xylitol. Pop a little bit on your toddler's teeth. Should also help keep any decay at bay/remineralise early decay.

BIossomtoes · 04/11/2024 12:12

FupaTrooper · 04/11/2024 11:58

I have an impeccable oral hygiene routine and attend the dentist 6 monthly but I always have plaque build up.

I attended a fantastic dentist once who said that some people are much more prone to deposits of such things. I can't remember the exact reason she gave sorry, but it made a lot of sense.

Basically I can do everything right and my teeth are otherwise good (only ever had one cavity) I just get plaque build up.

Your daughter may just be unlucky and don't beat yourself up if you really are being thorough with her brushing and diet.

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Same. We’re part of the unlucky 10%, it sounds as if OP’s daughter is too. In my case it seems to be genetic as my dad had exactly the same issue.

SpoonyFox · 04/11/2024 12:12

CocoDC · 04/11/2024 11:33

It’s not just about calcium. You need vitamin d and vitamin c and a whole host of other vitamins and omega 3 to build good teeth. I’ve been giving DS the wellbaby liquid since he was a baby

She has a liquid multi vitamin every morning. It’s me that took the calcium tablets

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SpoonyFox · 04/11/2024 12:10

DeepRoseFish · 04/11/2024 11:28

Does she have a dummy? My little one had the same thing on bottom front teeth. I think sometimes eating/drinking and then having a dummy afterwards can cause it.

Oh really! Yes she does have a dummy! Did you stop with the dummy then? If so did it solve the plaque issue?

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FupaTrooper · 04/11/2024 11:58

I have an impeccable oral hygiene routine and attend the dentist 6 monthly but I always have plaque build up.

I attended a fantastic dentist once who said that some people are much more prone to deposits of such things. I can't remember the exact reason she gave sorry, but it made a lot of sense.

Basically I can do everything right and my teeth are otherwise good (only ever had one cavity) I just get plaque build up.

Your daughter may just be unlucky and don't beat yourself up if you really are being thorough with her brushing and diet.

CocoDC · 04/11/2024 11:34

YouveGotAFastCar · 04/11/2024 10:15

Yes; you're supposed to take them to the dentist... but that's for a check-up. Babies and toddlers do not typically have hygienist appointments, nor scale and polishes.

But they can if needed - they just go to the dentist for it who takes the scale and polish really slowly. I know as DN had to have one at 2.5 as sil wasn’t brushing his teeth or taking care of sugar intake

CocoDC · 04/11/2024 11:33

SpoonyFox · 04/11/2024 10:20

Hi, no she was having oat milk. We also were surprised to see she had plaque it’s the only thing we could think of that would be causing it so we have now stopped and she only has water once teeth and brushed. Her diet is pretty good she doesn’t have any sweets or chocolates. Snacks tend to be cheese, Greek yogurt, crumpet which I always make sure to get the lowest sugar one due to this issue. I just don’t know what I’m doing wrong 😫 my friends kids routinely get chocolates and sweets and from what I’ve seen their teeth appear to be perfect

It’s not just about calcium. You need vitamin d and vitamin c and a whole host of other vitamins and omega 3 to build good teeth. I’ve been giving DS the wellbaby liquid since he was a baby

HippyChickMama · 04/11/2024 11:31

I don't think hygienists will see children, they don't at our NHS dentist. 17 year old ds needed a scale due to build up round his fixed braces and the dentist did it. Obviously very different to a toddler but the hygienist said it had to be the dentist as he's under 18

DeepRoseFish · 04/11/2024 11:28

Does she have a dummy? My little one had the same thing on bottom front teeth. I think sometimes eating/drinking and then having a dummy afterwards can cause it.

BobbyBiscuits · 04/11/2024 11:26

They wouldn't tolerate it I don't think. It can be sensitive and even painful, in adults who are very experienced with dental work. So the little one would be too uncomfortable. They can use a water spray thing but even that might be too unpleasant for a kid that young.
You should ask the dentist what they recommend. I remember having this stuff that you put on the teeth and it changes colour to show the bits you've missed when you brush. But that was when I was about 6.

RobinHumphries · 04/11/2024 11:21

caringcarer · 04/11/2024 11:05

Fruit has a lot of sugar in it. Try to clean after eating fruit or give carrot sticks etc instead of some of the fruit.

Never clean straight after eating

BIossomtoes · 04/11/2024 11:09

As a lifelong tartar sufferer I’m something of an expert on this! My dentist tells me that around 10% of the population is prone to build up and so need to be hyper vigilant. It has zero impact on decay and would happen regardless of diet. The things that are effective are thorough and frequent cleaning, preferably with an electric toothbrush, and flossing. Could you ask your dentist about the possibility of introducing your daughter to flossing @SpoonyFox? It’s going to have to be a lifelong habit if she’s prone to tartar buildup.

CocoDC · 04/11/2024 11:05

SpoonyFox · 04/11/2024 11:00

Interesting you say that, I took calcium tablets every day during my pregnancy with her as my grandma lost all her teeth when she was pregnant so I wanted to protect my own teeth but maybe I’ve now given her issues with too much calcium 😫

I was told to take calcium with vitamin d while I was pregnant (lol my gran had the same issue).

caringcarer · 04/11/2024 11:05

Fruit has a lot of sugar in it. Try to clean after eating fruit or give carrot sticks etc instead of some of the fruit.

SpoonyFox · 04/11/2024 11:00

Interesting you say that, I took calcium tablets every day during my pregnancy with her as my grandma lost all her teeth when she was pregnant so I wanted to protect my own teeth but maybe I’ve now given her issues with too much calcium 😫

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SpoonyFox · 04/11/2024 10:53

Thanks for all your replies. Dentist have phoned me back and said she is too young but she has her next check up in January so they will assess it then and see if she would even be willing to sit still but to just keep brushing and be careful with sugar intake

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NC4thread · 04/11/2024 10:52

SpoonyFox · 04/11/2024 10:20

Hi, no she was having oat milk. We also were surprised to see she had plaque it’s the only thing we could think of that would be causing it so we have now stopped and she only has water once teeth and brushed. Her diet is pretty good she doesn’t have any sweets or chocolates. Snacks tend to be cheese, Greek yogurt, crumpet which I always make sure to get the lowest sugar one due to this issue. I just don’t know what I’m doing wrong 😫 my friends kids routinely get chocolates and sweets and from what I’ve seen their teeth appear to be perfect

No real advice over the hygienist appointment at her age but want to point out: you might not be doing anything wrong.

I use a water flosser, an electrical toothbrush, a manual toothbrush, mouthwash & interdental flossers twice a day every day, and plaque disclosing tablets twice a week. I still have to go and have build up removed every 3-4 months. My issues are caused my genetics, and having too much calcium in my saliva. Nothing can be done to change that, other than frequent cleanings & my extensive dental routine. My dentist has agreed I’m not doing anything wrong, and has remarked that he and my hygienist also have trouble reaching some of my teeth because my jaw is so small, my teeth are actually too big for it, and have grown in very tightly squished. Braces are not an option due to other issues.

Sometimes you can do everything you can, but luck screws you over 🙈

SpoonyFox · 04/11/2024 10:52

Excited101 · 04/11/2024 10:48

As a nanny, I can pretty much guarantee that there’s not a 2 year old that exists, who would manage to have this done. Sorry op, keep doing what you’re doing. Does she eat dried fruit?

No never has dried fruit im really quite careful with sugar intake. She did used to enjoy soreen but again we’ve stopped that due to the sugar content of it.

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Excited101 · 04/11/2024 10:48

As a nanny, I can pretty much guarantee that there’s not a 2 year old that exists, who would manage to have this done. Sorry op, keep doing what you’re doing. Does she eat dried fruit?

SpoonyFox · 04/11/2024 10:42

RobinHumphries · 04/11/2024 10:27

How good is she at brushing her teeth? she’s going to be rubbish. A 2 year does not have the manual dexterity to be brushing her own teeth. Parents should be supervising or doing it for them up until around the age of 10.
A 2 year old is NOT going to be able to tolerate having their teeth professionally cleaned and I would not contemplate doing it for a second.

Yeah she doesn’t brush her own teeth well she does at the end but we will brush them properly first. She’s really good at lying down and letting us do it as she gets to choose something to watch on my phone. She lets ye use an electric toothbrush too so I’m thinking is a polish so different? Maybe not the scale

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