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To think this the most pointless, indulgent gap year possible

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Killiam · 04/11/2024 03:55

Met with some old friends of DHs yesterday, we aren’t close anymore but we have daughters of the same age (17).
We asked what their daughter was planing for after A-levels and they told us she’s going on a gap year, thinking it would be a classic backpacking trip we asked where she would be going and this is what they described

  • First Greek island hopping (for fun and independence)
  • Then a wellness retreat in either Thailand or Indonesia (self reflection and stress management)
  • Then December in New York (Engage with the culture such as visiting museums, enjoy city life (she already lives in London but okay?) and emerge herself in the Christmas spirit)
  • January to March at the families ski chalet (take on courses to help with leadership skills, read classical literature and ski)
  • Rest of the year in France/Italy/Spain (culture again, cooking classes and wine tasting)

They justified it by saying she has no interest in backpacking and they don’t believe that’s enriching anyway and they feel this is a balanced way to transition her from childhood to adulthood (plans a degree apprenticeship for the following year).
They think these experiences will give her the final touches she needs to be successful after putting a lot of effort into ensuring she is well rounded (sports, music, language, well read and well travelled etc.)

AIBU to think this is more indulgent, pointless, year long luxury holiday of a gap year. I don’t mind gap years in general but this will be entirely funded by her parents and I can’t see what exactly is going to make it so enriching. Of course she need not actually worry as they also mentioned buying her a flat worth over a million and how she will have a job in either of their businesses should she actually want it!

OP posts:
FrenchJunebug · 07/11/2024 23:07

not sure what it will teach her about 'adulthood'?!

PureBoggin · 07/11/2024 19:45

RafaFan · 07/11/2024 14:37

Sounds like the girl in Pulp's Common People. She may develop an appreciation for art and literature on her gap year (not a bad thing) but she'll never know "how the other half live" or work to achieve things on her own terms if her parents are buying her an apartment then going to make sure she gets a job in one of their businesses if she doesn't get anything else. Pretty cushy for her. I get that it's galling that some people just get everything handed to them. I feel the same. However, life is just inherently unfair, nothing we can really do about it.

She might not know "how the other half live" because of the circumstances of her birth-not because she didn't backpack through sub Saharan Africa. I also think that people underestimate the sociological imagination. Everyone actually understands how "the other half live"..… the poor understand well enough how the affluent live, and the affluent understand how the poor live. Young people only have to walk through the towns and cities nearest to them to see poverty in glorious technicolour. They don't have to venture too far.

YourRubyLion · 07/11/2024 15:14

Killiam · 04/11/2024 06:39

Not everyone gets a role at a multi-million pound company far above entry level just because one of their parents own it. That role is then taken from someone who will have worked for it.

Op I think you have the wrong idea. The parents didnt create the company so the world can have jobs, they created it for their children and childrens children to have jobs or be secure. I think you don't understand the way the world works if you think otherwise. Personally, I really respect entrepreneaurs and creating wealth from a starting block is hard. If they were my friends I would be proud of them and their neuvo riche quirkiness would make me smile to see them enjoying what they created.

RafaFan · 07/11/2024 14:37

Sounds like the girl in Pulp's Common People. She may develop an appreciation for art and literature on her gap year (not a bad thing) but she'll never know "how the other half live" or work to achieve things on her own terms if her parents are buying her an apartment then going to make sure she gets a job in one of their businesses if she doesn't get anything else. Pretty cushy for her. I get that it's galling that some people just get everything handed to them. I feel the same. However, life is just inherently unfair, nothing we can really do about it.

Swiftie1878 · 07/11/2024 12:19

It’s really none of your business, and your post reeks of envy and resentment.

Sounds like you don’t know their daughter very well. Who knows what she’ll do on her gap year? Her parents can plan all they like - she’ll be a grown up and will do as she pleases, with or without them knowing.

ZoeDavoMCR · 07/11/2024 12:19

I’m sorry but your post screams jealousy. The trip sounds fantastic and I’m sure she will remember it forever, you don’t actually care whether it’s enriching for her, you’re not even good friends with the family

InterIgnis · 07/11/2024 12:16

YourRubyLion · 07/11/2024 08:10

Whats wrong with reading war and peace? I read the bible front to back when i was about 12 as I was not religious and wanted to know what all the fuss was about. Still not religious. i also read Lord of the rings and Shogun at that age. Both huge books. Some people like reading, my husband hates reading. We can live happily side by side with not an eyebrow raised between us for our reading habits.

Edited

Indeed. It’s not at all unbelievable that someone with an interest in literature would have read through two well known classics at 19, or even younger. I think I was around 14/15 when I started reading Tolstoy and Dostoevsky. Tbf my dad is Russian, so they were and are considered standard reading, not a reason to brag. If one or both of her parents are from former Soviet countries/satellites then I imagine it may be the same for them.

Speaking of poverty tourism/ understanding the value of a simple ‘poor’ life though, if she made it through Tolstoy’s sermons then she’s at least got the idea.

ARR84 · 07/11/2024 11:02

Sounds amazing. You're being very judgemental, dare I say through jealousy. They obviously have enough money and quite frankly, life is far too short so if she wants to do this and they can afford it, how amazing an experience for her xx

1mabon · 07/11/2024 10:17

None of your business.

Davros · 07/11/2024 08:37

I wonder if her parents are terrified of her potential to go off the rails and/or if they're worried about her MH and this plan is their way of redirecting her. I could be entirely wrong but that would be behind my motivation if I planned this for DD when she was this age. Otherwise it sounds like a great year.
Anna Karenina and W&P are really just well written, engaging and long soap operas and are easy to engage with.

Sleepybeanbump · 07/11/2024 08:26

Sounds lovely? The idea that gap years have to be somehow ‘worthy’ by being cheap-ish and somewhere exotic was always fairly silly anyway and gave rise to loads of problematic ‘volunteering’ schemes. Everyone knows they’re a year to have fun and gain independence before reality kicks in again and dressing them up as much more is fairly disingenuous in most cases.

YourRubyLion · 07/11/2024 08:10

YourRubyLion · 07/11/2024 08:06

I need this gap year. Sign me up yesterday. J feel like this sounds amazing. I did travelling but I took a suitcase, heels and stayed in hotels until I found a group I was confortable travelling with and staying in hostels. It was amazing. Gap year doesnt mean you have to wear walking sandals and carry a sleeping mat. Have a gap year however you like. I self finded mine,l through working three jibs while at uni but I would fund my childs if they wanted to and were showing me they can be sensible about it.

Whats wrong with reading war and peace? I read the bible front to back when i was about 12 as I was not religious and wanted to know what all the fuss was about. Still not religious. i also read Lord of the rings and Shogun at that age. Both huge books. Some people like reading, my husband hates reading. We can live happily side by side with not an eyebrow raised between us for our reading habits.

YourRubyLion · 07/11/2024 08:06

I need this gap year. Sign me up yesterday. J feel like this sounds amazing. I did travelling but I took a suitcase, heels and stayed in hotels until I found a group I was confortable travelling with and staying in hostels. It was amazing. Gap year doesnt mean you have to wear walking sandals and carry a sleeping mat. Have a gap year however you like. I self finded mine,l through working three jibs while at uni but I would fund my childs if they wanted to and were showing me they can be sensible about it.

crockofshite · 07/11/2024 08:05

Sounds perfect.

I'm sure she'll get more out of it than spending a year back packing, working in a bar, getting wasted with dodgy strangers blah blah.

Zippidydoodah · 07/11/2024 07:18

DonnaSummet · 07/11/2024 06:32

Shes having a gap yahhhhhhh!!!

😂😂😂 🐸

Coolbreezee · 07/11/2024 06:52

@DonnaSummet this cracked me up!

DonnaSummet · 07/11/2024 06:32

Shes having a gap yahhhhhhh!!!

WhatsWorkLifeBalance · 07/11/2024 06:29

Sounds amazing! What an opportunity! She has the rest of her life to adult, if she has this chance now why not take it!

SophiaCohle · 07/11/2024 01:45

Have you posted about this girl before, with some of the details changed? There's someone else here who makes spiteful threads about a young woman who was largely educated in France, who is about to do a degree apprenticeship in finance. That MNer is also very envious, sometimes on behalf of her own DC, even though they too get plenty of support.

I think the gap year sounds fantastic btw.

Spicastar · 07/11/2024 01:13

I just read all your posts and you don't actually know this family well, and have only met the daughter for 20mins, yet you have such a strong judgy reaction?

You state she'll be underqualified for corporate jobs - how do you know that based on a gap year when she's, what, 19?

And the 'family reeks of privilege' although they come from ordinary backgrounds and have built their wealth and success? That's not exactly privilege in the usual usage of the word.

I don't think your issue is this family but something/someone else altogether. Sounds like you feel you didn't get what you want and deserve in life. But that's not this girl's fault in any way.

Spicastar · 07/11/2024 01:04

Sounds exactly like 'the grand tour' that all wealthy youngsters did in the 1700-1800s. It used to be the hallmark of sophistication, education and worldliness.

Personally I'd prefer backpacking and adventure but if the parents can and want to fund this, why not?

I know you don't think you are, but perhaps you are a tad jealous? Otherwise there's not much point to feel so strongly about someone else's life choices.

CosyLemur · 06/11/2024 21:26

Killiam · 04/11/2024 04:32

My thoughts too!
Then again they were bragging that she just finished reading war & peace and had already done Anna Karenina (how true I can’t be sure!)

Why can't it be true? My friends 15 year old has just finished War and Peace. He's always enjoyed reading, and my the age of 7 had read most of the harry potter books himself.

CrayonCritic5 · 06/11/2024 20:32

Sorry OP but what is your problem. Not your business and you’re just jealous.

Bigstuffypillow · 06/11/2024 19:12

Sounds amazing!
I agree with @Hatty123 you sound jealous and not a very nice friend.