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Boots security accusation.

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Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:34

I live in a major city and I very regularly go to Boots inside a shopping centre. Sometimes I have a big shopping trolley that I push (relevant because when I 'complained' that security followed me to a neighbour they said that it was a method that shoplifters use and security are aware that they do this) but there are also many times when I don't use it.
Anyway: I am a hoarder and I have adhd, so I can be a bit eager with products, but I always display them clearly in my hands and go to pay at the checkout. I prefer the manned checkout rather than the self check out for the exact fear of being accused of shop lifting, but sometimes the staff direct me to the self check out and I pay there.
Sometimes I forget my receipt, but I am always happy to go back and get it/prove which self check out/manned check out I have been on. One of the staff asked me which self check out I had used when the security alarm went off when I was exiting the store and he showed me how he could prove the last purchase on the particular till.
I don't always wait for the receipt or if I do, it I accidentally take the No.7 voucher 10% off print out instead. Sometimes I also have the receipt.
The lip glosses randomly have those stuck on security tags and they often beep when I walk out. After payment, I openly ask staff to remove them.

Last time I went to the Boots that i most regularly go to and the one where the security commonly beeps when I exit with my most bought product lip gloss (not sure if relevant), I was in the middle of the shop going to buy exactly that and security was watching me very, very closely and hinting to the other security guard to come closer to me.
I didn't want to be dictated to by them (or appear 'guilty' by quickly exiting the shop), but the more serious security guard 'edged' me out.
They did not 'accuse' me or even talk to me, but they both towered over me and got so close as that I felt I had to leave the shop. One of them (can't remember about the other) was security with a high vis vest and walkie talkie. I wasn't taken to the back of the shop or asked not to come back again, neither did other staff do anything to help.
Most of my purchases would be able to be seen on my Boots advantage card, but there was a time when I didn't have one because they stopped working due to not being registered online.
However, they do also have CCTV, which I am guessing they haven't consulted.
When I have been stopped by a security guard before, because the product still had the tag on and it made the alarms go off, he asked me for my receipt. I didn't have it on me, but he said it was fine to leave the shop. I went 'above this' because I have paranoia about this exact thing happen and I told him I could go and get someone to prove it. He said it didn't matter, but if I insisted, I could show him my online banking purchase and I did. I said I was paranoid about being thought of a shoplifter and he said that if I was one, I wouldn't have taken the time to show him.
After this, on another day, this I incident happened.

I have consulted two staff members from two other Boots stores, one being a manager and they didn't think it was appropriate that security behaved in this manner. One of the staff suggested to me that I call/email the customer care line.
I will probably complete this, but I don't know if they will be thorough/able to find the records of me paying etc.
I could go back to the shop where the incident happened and talk to the manager as the other manager of the other Boots advised, but I suspect that I might be edged out again and hence unable to find the manager.
Thanks for reading.

OP posts:
MolkosTeenageAngst · 03/11/2024 14:40

There are a number of tactics shoplifters might use to either make it easier to hide something or to appear like they’re not going to shoplift:

  • Using a trolley or large bag which they can hide things in
  • Not taking a basket, carrying things in their hands so they can easily slip something up a sleeve or in a pocket.
  • Being overly friendly and smiley to staff so that they don’t come across as suspicious
  • Not scanning everything through at a self checkout and then not taking the receipt so it can’t be easily checked.

You have openly said that you do all of these things; carry a trolley, don’t use a basket and just have things in hands, comment to staff and don’t take a receipt. It’s not surprising the security are suspicious of you, if you don’t want to seem suspicious use a basket and stop commenting on products to staff and take a receipt!

Some products are also more likely to be shoplifted and make up is absolutely one of them, I have noticed security and other staff tend to hang around the make up aisles in my local boots and will hover around a lot. It’s not likely to be anything personally but at the end of the day making sure stock isn’t stolen is going to be more important to the security and other staff than ensuring you don’t feel slightly embarrassed by having them watch you carefully.

pinkdelight · 03/11/2024 14:38

They didn't. They 'edged' me out of threshop, towering over me.

This - and a lot of the rest of OP posts - sounds more like paranoia than something to complain about. No one can edge you out of a shop by towering over you. Either you left of your own accord or they walked you out. If they made you feel watched/uncomfortable and you had nothing to hide, you could have engaged with them in any number of ways, but the bottom line is that you do have some odd shopping behaviours and it's their job to look out for such things and keep an eye to prevent thefts. You aren't a thief, but you go there a lot with a big shopping trolley, often buy items that are popular with shoplifters (and demonstrably more than most people need, due to the hoarding/excitement), and hold them in your hands rather than a basket. They'd not be doing their job if they hadn't clocked you and taken an interest. If you want to keep going there, you might as well take the bull by the horns and rather than complain just explain you love shopping there and don't want there to be any misunderstandings because of xyz that could be misconstrued by them. But ideally I'd be getting help for the hoarding because it sounds like a big waste of money for a load of stress (and lip gloss) you don't need.

Trobealone · 03/11/2024 14:36

@Startyabastard

“In-store shopping
Boots has trained Dementia Friends in most of their stores, and their store teams are trained in the Sunflower lanyard scheme. This scheme allows people with hidden disabilities to discreetly indicate that they may need extra support.”

Perhaps you could show a lanyard or have a discreet word before you shop in the store next time.

SockQueen · 03/11/2024 14:36

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 14:09

Because I was scared and didn't want to draw attention to myself.

But their attention is already on you! By not saying anything and just shuffling out of the shop, you're behaving far more suspiciously than if you'd just said "is everything ok?" or "excuse me, I'm just going to the lip glosses," which is what most non-shoplifters would do.

Sadly I think your slightly unusual set of behaviours has already caught their eye so it may be better to buy your toiletries elsewhere, at least for a while, if you want to avoid hassle. And use a basket!

decorativecushions · 03/11/2024 14:36

If I worked in a shop, I too would be hella suspicious of someone with a big shopping trolley in a shop like boots. It is odd behaviour. Why not just take some carrier bags or a backpack if you're planning on making several purchases? I've never come across anyone doing that, so it would get my suspicious up unfortunately.

Clearly there's something about you that makes you seem suspicious and shifty OP, if it's happened more than once. Maybe time to ditch the big shopping trolley and behave a little less excitedly around products.

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 03/11/2024 14:36

Shopping baskets make me buy less. I hate carrying them and as soon as they get any weight to them they’re physically painful to lug around.

I’m surprised that they make people buy more.

I can understand a trolley having that effect but not a basket.

CarpetShampoo · 03/11/2024 14:35

It sounds as if you are the cause of your own problems OP. Use a basket. Ask the check out person to remove tags, take your receipt and put it in your purse after you have paid.

oakleaffy · 03/11/2024 14:34

HundredMilesAnHour · 03/11/2024 13:40

This all sounds like unnecessary drama and that your behaviour is somewhat dodgy OP. What does "can be a bit eager with products" mean??

Just take the receipt and keep it with your purchases until you've left the shop. Simples.

No idea what ADHD has to do with it but it gets very tiresome that people keep using being ND as an excuse. You're doing those of us who are ND no favours.

ADHD / hoarder /ND =

“I am not responsible for my actions and therefore immune from prosecution “

It is not an excuse.

Lifeomars · 03/11/2024 14:34

I'm struggling to undestand what exactly has happened here

HalloweenHaribo · 03/11/2024 14:34

I'm laughing at 'towering over me'.

What are they supposed to do if they're tall, kneel down? 🤣🤣

Either way OP, this thread is all very 'ME, ME, ME. I want/I don't want' etc.

Either learn to change your shopping style to help yourself, or you'll have to put up with it.

Justlurking101 · 03/11/2024 14:32

Stop buying things you don't need, get a receipt. I always request one... shoplifting is on the rise and security are employed to do a job. It's annoying if you get challenged but nothing to get upset about. You probably looked dodgy with your big trolley and loads of products in your hands / no basket.

AdviceNeeded2024 · 03/11/2024 14:30

How often do you visit this branch of Boots?

SilenceInside · 03/11/2024 14:30

Surely if a product has a security tag on it you don't leave the store until a staff member has removed it? If you just walk out with it and set off the alarms every time that's a bit odd.

Floralnomad · 03/11/2024 14:29

You seem to be creating a drama over a perfectly normal event - the security lights beep and someone comes to check . Just make sure you have a receipt in future , nobody is persecuting you personally they are doing their job .

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 03/11/2024 14:26

FGS just take your receipt in future. And use a basket. Of course sticking things in your own shopping trolley is going to look dodgy. Shops are losing millions every day to shoplifting - they absolutely have to be vigilant.

Klozza · 03/11/2024 14:24

purplebeansprouts · 03/11/2024 13:45

If you spend more than £25 then you don't have to

If she just wants to buy a lipgloss though she probably wouldn’t be spending £25. I tend to do 99% of my shopping online, especially if I can get it on Amazon, but if I just want something quickly on the day, especially something cheap I’m not gonna order it online and rather have to pay the postage or spend and unnecessary £25.

I will say Amazon stocks most brands of Makeup now which if you have prime is free next day delivery BUT you can’t see the shades in person and the online swatches aren’t always reliable.

Ellmau · 03/11/2024 14:23

You're setting off a lot of red flags OP, and I suspect you'll find yourself on a list to be denied entry soon.

DoreenonTill8 · 03/11/2024 14:21

Is it a big trolley like this? They're probably shown in training how people will push one of these about and slip things in while walking.
If it is like this, why not sit the basket on top?

Boots security accusation.
Christwosheds · 03/11/2024 14:21

Boots have security tags on lots of items which they don’t remove. I shopped in a big Boots recently, beeped as I left but I thought it wasn’t me so just carried on walking. Went into a different shop and I beeped as I left. This time I was stopped and security took me to one side and went through my purchases. The problem was the stuff from Boots. The assistant said it happens all the time, that Boots staff don’t bother to remove tags. I was embarrassed at being stopped and my stuff examined, so it was really annoying. I sympathise.

pavementgerms · 03/11/2024 14:21

LadyGabriella · 03/11/2024 14:09

Your post is quite weirdly written and worded. If your post translates to how you act in person, perhaps they were picking up on bizarre behaviour and didn’t want you in the shop. I really can’t understand what your post is saying.

This. They didn't actually do anything or say anything to you. Their job is to look out for suspicious behaviour, your behaviour was suspicious to them.

RawBloomers · 03/11/2024 14:19

The edging out sounds quite upsetting, OP. I’m sure I’d be unsettled at best if it happened to me. A complaint to the store or head office would be reasonable. But while it might get you an apology now, I’m not sure it would change anything going forward.

What’s your goal in posting here? Your experience in shops is not, I don’t think, the norm. It sounds like you are aware your behaviour/demeanor in the shop may be signaling to security that you’re up to no good when that isn’t the case. If what you want is an experience closer to the norm then you may need to work on changing your behaviour in the shop so you don’t attract attention from security.

monicagellerbing · 03/11/2024 14:19

How much lip gloss can a person need

Coconutter24 · 03/11/2024 14:19

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:40

Those were two separate incidents.
I wanted to illustrate that I have been asked for my proof of purchase on more than one occasion.
The most recent and serious event was when they 'edged' me out of the shop without explanation.

When you say they ‘edged’ you out, what do you mean? Did they ask you to leave?

redskydarknight · 03/11/2024 14:18

I agree with everyone else OP. Your shopping habits sounds erratic. Leaving the shop without buying or saying anything when the security guard went and stood near you makes you look even more like someone who was intending to shoplift.

You know you look suspicious, even if this is unintentional, so just get a basket and put your items in there. If you think you'll overbuy then put a small open container of your own on top of your trolley so everyone can see what you're about to purchase.

MSLRT · 03/11/2024 14:18

This all sounds a bit strange. Security Guards would not behave like this without a reason. Are you sure you are telling the truth here? I would have thought that someone who is so worried about being accused of shoplifting would always remember the receipt.

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