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Boots security accusation.

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Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:34

I live in a major city and I very regularly go to Boots inside a shopping centre. Sometimes I have a big shopping trolley that I push (relevant because when I 'complained' that security followed me to a neighbour they said that it was a method that shoplifters use and security are aware that they do this) but there are also many times when I don't use it.
Anyway: I am a hoarder and I have adhd, so I can be a bit eager with products, but I always display them clearly in my hands and go to pay at the checkout. I prefer the manned checkout rather than the self check out for the exact fear of being accused of shop lifting, but sometimes the staff direct me to the self check out and I pay there.
Sometimes I forget my receipt, but I am always happy to go back and get it/prove which self check out/manned check out I have been on. One of the staff asked me which self check out I had used when the security alarm went off when I was exiting the store and he showed me how he could prove the last purchase on the particular till.
I don't always wait for the receipt or if I do, it I accidentally take the No.7 voucher 10% off print out instead. Sometimes I also have the receipt.
The lip glosses randomly have those stuck on security tags and they often beep when I walk out. After payment, I openly ask staff to remove them.

Last time I went to the Boots that i most regularly go to and the one where the security commonly beeps when I exit with my most bought product lip gloss (not sure if relevant), I was in the middle of the shop going to buy exactly that and security was watching me very, very closely and hinting to the other security guard to come closer to me.
I didn't want to be dictated to by them (or appear 'guilty' by quickly exiting the shop), but the more serious security guard 'edged' me out.
They did not 'accuse' me or even talk to me, but they both towered over me and got so close as that I felt I had to leave the shop. One of them (can't remember about the other) was security with a high vis vest and walkie talkie. I wasn't taken to the back of the shop or asked not to come back again, neither did other staff do anything to help.
Most of my purchases would be able to be seen on my Boots advantage card, but there was a time when I didn't have one because they stopped working due to not being registered online.
However, they do also have CCTV, which I am guessing they haven't consulted.
When I have been stopped by a security guard before, because the product still had the tag on and it made the alarms go off, he asked me for my receipt. I didn't have it on me, but he said it was fine to leave the shop. I went 'above this' because I have paranoia about this exact thing happen and I told him I could go and get someone to prove it. He said it didn't matter, but if I insisted, I could show him my online banking purchase and I did. I said I was paranoid about being thought of a shoplifter and he said that if I was one, I wouldn't have taken the time to show him.
After this, on another day, this I incident happened.

I have consulted two staff members from two other Boots stores, one being a manager and they didn't think it was appropriate that security behaved in this manner. One of the staff suggested to me that I call/email the customer care line.
I will probably complete this, but I don't know if they will be thorough/able to find the records of me paying etc.
I could go back to the shop where the incident happened and talk to the manager as the other manager of the other Boots advised, but I suspect that I might be edged out again and hence unable to find the manager.
Thanks for reading.

OP posts:
TheNoonBell · 03/11/2024 15:30

Use a basket

Starlight7080 · 03/11/2024 15:29

Maybe don't focus on this so much. And how the security guards perceive you.
Maybe focus on the hording and your need to buy so much stuff.
Are you getting help at all?

GhostCicada · 03/11/2024 15:28

HousefulofIkea · 03/11/2024 15:22

The thing is OP you are clearly aware that your behaviour in this shop is odd, so why don't you try and moderate it a bit?
It sounds like are behaving really strangely so its inevitable really that you are going to attract attention from the security staff.

Its not only that you might be a shoplifter, another issue might be that your behaviour makes other shoppers feel uncomfortable abd its affecting their shopping experience, thus the staff have concluded they would prefer you not to shop there.

Really? If someone smiling which is the only thing the op has said she does which is odd makes people uncomfortable then that is their problem. The OP isn't being loud or rude or aggressive, she is showing a bit of excitement. You really think that that would make people feel so uncomfortable and spoil their 'shopping experience' so much that she should be banned?

Imagine trying to make someone think that their behaviour which seems to amount to nothing other than smiling and a racing inner monologue is so odd the staff want her banned for making other shoppers feel uncomfortable.

pinkdelight · 03/11/2024 15:27

Even if you've learnt that having a basket can make people buy more, it doesn't discount its other uses ie to carry things in a less shopliftery way.

Also you buy more than you need anyway so the basket 'trick' is irrelevant. But its benefit is valuable to you in making you look less dodgy.

Store loyalty cards also lead to people buying more, items near the tills are another trick to encourage impulse buying.

These are all pretty transparent and easy to counter if you're so inclined. But in fact you're the opposite and like to get excited and buy lots so why choose the basket to take a stand against? It does sound like you're being deliberately obtuse about the things that make you look dodgy to a security guard.

You can try the laminate but honestly as a PP pointed out, that would be precisely the kind of tactic someone might use if they were up to stuff and wanted to get away with it. Which isn't fair on the legit users who need understanding, but really it's gonna be better if you follow the other steps people have laid out to look more above board.

MargaretThursday · 03/11/2024 15:24

Tbh your op reads as someone who is practicing their spiel for if they're caught shoplifting
You're protesting far too much.

I mean all that thought that's gone in justifying why you might look like you're shoplifting but aren't.
I've never worried if a security guard does start watching me, because I don't shoplift therefore if they wish to check my bags it's fine, easy job done

starfishmummy · 03/11/2024 15:22

If I worked in a shop, I too would be hella suspicious of someone with a big shopping trolley in a shop like boots.

Why shouldn't she use a shopping trolley? The boots I use is large, I'll probably be going to other shops as well including the supermarket next door so have my trolley with me.

HousefulofIkea · 03/11/2024 15:22

The thing is OP you are clearly aware that your behaviour in this shop is odd, so why don't you try and moderate it a bit?
It sounds like are behaving really strangely so its inevitable really that you are going to attract attention from the security staff.

Its not only that you might be a shoplifter, another issue might be that your behaviour makes other shoppers feel uncomfortable abd its affecting their shopping experience, thus the staff have concluded they would prefer you not to shop there.

HousefulofIkea · 03/11/2024 15:19

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 14:08

I used to work in retail, it IS a psychological trick to make you buy more.

It really isn't op, its because you can only hold 2 items in your hands and most people are buying more than that 🤣🤣🤣

EmberAsh · 03/11/2024 15:19

There was a thread a couple of weeks back about people who had seen others shoplifting. You sound like a shoplifter. The way you describe shopping is bizarre. Your behaviour is really suspicious. You're far too aware of yourself when shopping and this will draw attention to security staff.

oakleaffy · 03/11/2024 15:18

There was only one shop I got excited in, as an adult-
It was a specialist shop like something out of the 19th century selling antique toys.

We arrived in a snowstorm and as the butler’s bell 🔔 jangled and I was surrounded by magnificent items, in the stormy light - so atmospheric.

I was saying how I couldn’t Believe it, and how it was like a dream.
The shopkeeper made us a hot coffee to recover😂

I was able to buy a beautiful old toy from here, and it was really a lovely experience.

The shop only let people in if they were expecting someone, so shoplifting not such a risk there.

Sadly the shop closed due to retirement.

Whyherewego · 03/11/2024 15:17

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 14:08

I used to work in retail, it IS a psychological trick to make you buy more.

Not sure how given a trolley has more space?

But nevertheless there's something about your behaviour which means you aroused some suspicion on a couple of occasions. I'd say if it bothers you then be sure to get a receipt or maybe ask a friend to shop with you and ask them if you are doing anything unusual.

Mumtumtastic · 03/11/2024 15:16

OP looked and acted shifty so the security staff were alerted and came over.

However bottom line is she did nothing wrong, she hadn’t shoplifted. Or by the sound of it picked up anything yet.

I wouldn’t put up with this BS bullying from security staff. I would have either said in a loud voice ‘Can I HELP you?!’ (with hands on hips and and some direct eye contact 😂) or stomped over to the cashier to speak to the store manager there and then to complain (or both).

Dont put up with BS like this again. You were an innocent customer (albeit an quirky one)

MrsCarson · 03/11/2024 15:15

YABU and making drama. Slow down when you check out, get organised and get the receipt, make sure everything scans properly or say no when directed to self check. Then no one will bother you.

JaneAustensHeroine · 03/11/2024 15:15

You are behaving in a way that attracts attention from security. By constantly trying to prove your innocence you look guilty before you’ve even started. Stop behaving like a shoplifter / victim and you’ll stop being treated like a shoplifter / victim.

purplebeansprouts · 03/11/2024 15:13

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:53

I get a bit excited because I never had enough of things as a child.
I don't snatch or grab, but I have a smile on my face and often remark how good the specific products are to the staff.

They aren't throwing you out because you are smiling

Nanny0gg · 03/11/2024 15:11

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:44

I don't want to have to pay postage.
I also don't want security/staff/anyone to believe that I shop lift.

Have it delivered to store free

oakleaffy · 03/11/2024 15:10

DoreenonTill8 · 03/11/2024 15:04

That's a bit odd... watching you because you put a bottle of sunlotion in your basket, or because your child cleared the shelf? As in knocked everything off?
She was likely doing her job, but lovely misogyny with the 'old bag' comment and verbal abuse!

Sounds par for the course!

DeliciousApples · 03/11/2024 15:10

Sometimes in life we just have to confirm to what's expected in social situations or live with the consequences of being 'different'.

You've tried 'different'. I would suggest you try 'conforming' and see how you get on.

Use a basket.
Go to a staffed till.
Take the receipt the staff member hands you.

Job done.

If you are still feeling harassed asked to speak with a manager so you can better understand the situation. It could be that you look similar to a known shoplifter or something which you can easily clear up.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 03/11/2024 15:08

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:43

'Not sure anyone has done anything wrong here.'
They refused to allow me to remain in the shop. I hadn't made a purchase that day but was going to.

The machines/staff serving don't always give a receipt but you can ask for one.

What do you mean they refused to allow you to remain in the shop? Is this the 'edging out' you talk about, where they didn't speak to you at all, just towered over you?

If that had happened to me I'd have asked them what on earth was going on. I think anyone would have. It seems odd that you just let them intimidate you into leaving the shop without even having a conversation about why.

If that did happen, I'd suggest you've been on their radar for a while and rightly or wrongly, they do suspect that you are shoplifting. They just haven't managed to catch you in the act yet.

Clearly you haven't done anything wrong, as real shoplifters don't tend to complain to the manager. But good luck with phoning the customer service and complaints line. If it's anything like Tesco you'll get precisely nowhere with taking any sort of complaint forward and you'll be lucky if you get to converse with anything but a chat bot.

Pusheen467 · 03/11/2024 15:06

DoreenonTill8 · 03/11/2024 15:04

That's a bit odd... watching you because you put a bottle of sunlotion in your basket, or because your child cleared the shelf? As in knocked everything off?
She was likely doing her job, but lovely misogyny with the 'old bag' comment and verbal abuse!

Awful comment wasn't it. Sounds like her kids trashed the shop, I don't blame the woman for watching.

Jeckyl · 03/11/2024 15:05

Perhaps a basket is also a useful tool psychological trick to stop one looking like a shoplifter?

You should try it!

DoreenonTill8 · 03/11/2024 15:04

Mumandcarer80 · 03/11/2024 15:00

OP I had a jobs worth woman watching me. Because I had put 1 bottle of E45 suncream in my basket. One of my autistic children decided to clear the shelf of all the bottles of sun. My other autistic child made a run for it out the door. So of course I dropped my basket and ran after him. Turned round and said their autistic kids not fucking shop lifter's. Old bag she was I often see her on the bus years later.

That's a bit odd... watching you because you put a bottle of sunlotion in your basket, or because your child cleared the shelf? As in knocked everything off?
She was likely doing her job, but lovely misogyny with the 'old bag' comment and verbal abuse!

DearRussell · 03/11/2024 15:03

Mumandcarer80 · 03/11/2024 15:00

OP I had a jobs worth woman watching me. Because I had put 1 bottle of E45 suncream in my basket. One of my autistic children decided to clear the shelf of all the bottles of sun. My other autistic child made a run for it out the door. So of course I dropped my basket and ran after him. Turned round and said their autistic kids not fucking shop lifter's. Old bag she was I often see her on the bus years later.

But what did she do wrong? She watched you? I would have watched that scene too. It sounds dramatic

FupaTrooper · 03/11/2024 15:02

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:40

Those were two separate incidents.
I wanted to illustrate that I have been asked for my proof of purchase on more than one occasion.
The most recent and serious event was when they 'edged' me out of the shop without explanation.

Be more diligent about collecting your receipt. They will soon get bored

Whothefuckdoesthat · 03/11/2024 15:02

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:45

'Did the security guards during this incident actually come up either side of you and herd you out of the shop? Where they within a foot or two of you either side trying to intimidate you out of the shop? That’s not OK. They can’t behave like that and you should absolutely complain.'
Yes they did exactly that.

From what you’ve said, your behaviour in a shop is a little bit unusual. You’ve got a perfectly reasonable explanation for that, but the security guards can’t be expected to know that you aren’t just a regular shoplifter.

I don’t understand why you didn’t just say ‘excuse me’ to the security guards and continue walking where you wanted to walk?

Also, if you’re describing yourself as paranoid you’ll be mistaken for a shoplifter, why aren’t you taking care to get your receipt each time?

And if you’re so convinced that getting a basket is a psychological trick to get you to buy more, rather than an easier way to carry your stuff, then you know not to fall for their tricks and just buy what you want, can’t you?

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