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Boots security accusation.

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Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:34

I live in a major city and I very regularly go to Boots inside a shopping centre. Sometimes I have a big shopping trolley that I push (relevant because when I 'complained' that security followed me to a neighbour they said that it was a method that shoplifters use and security are aware that they do this) but there are also many times when I don't use it.
Anyway: I am a hoarder and I have adhd, so I can be a bit eager with products, but I always display them clearly in my hands and go to pay at the checkout. I prefer the manned checkout rather than the self check out for the exact fear of being accused of shop lifting, but sometimes the staff direct me to the self check out and I pay there.
Sometimes I forget my receipt, but I am always happy to go back and get it/prove which self check out/manned check out I have been on. One of the staff asked me which self check out I had used when the security alarm went off when I was exiting the store and he showed me how he could prove the last purchase on the particular till.
I don't always wait for the receipt or if I do, it I accidentally take the No.7 voucher 10% off print out instead. Sometimes I also have the receipt.
The lip glosses randomly have those stuck on security tags and they often beep when I walk out. After payment, I openly ask staff to remove them.

Last time I went to the Boots that i most regularly go to and the one where the security commonly beeps when I exit with my most bought product lip gloss (not sure if relevant), I was in the middle of the shop going to buy exactly that and security was watching me very, very closely and hinting to the other security guard to come closer to me.
I didn't want to be dictated to by them (or appear 'guilty' by quickly exiting the shop), but the more serious security guard 'edged' me out.
They did not 'accuse' me or even talk to me, but they both towered over me and got so close as that I felt I had to leave the shop. One of them (can't remember about the other) was security with a high vis vest and walkie talkie. I wasn't taken to the back of the shop or asked not to come back again, neither did other staff do anything to help.
Most of my purchases would be able to be seen on my Boots advantage card, but there was a time when I didn't have one because they stopped working due to not being registered online.
However, they do also have CCTV, which I am guessing they haven't consulted.
When I have been stopped by a security guard before, because the product still had the tag on and it made the alarms go off, he asked me for my receipt. I didn't have it on me, but he said it was fine to leave the shop. I went 'above this' because I have paranoia about this exact thing happen and I told him I could go and get someone to prove it. He said it didn't matter, but if I insisted, I could show him my online banking purchase and I did. I said I was paranoid about being thought of a shoplifter and he said that if I was one, I wouldn't have taken the time to show him.
After this, on another day, this I incident happened.

I have consulted two staff members from two other Boots stores, one being a manager and they didn't think it was appropriate that security behaved in this manner. One of the staff suggested to me that I call/email the customer care line.
I will probably complete this, but I don't know if they will be thorough/able to find the records of me paying etc.
I could go back to the shop where the incident happened and talk to the manager as the other manager of the other Boots advised, but I suspect that I might be edged out again and hence unable to find the manager.
Thanks for reading.

OP posts:
Calmnessandchaos · 03/11/2024 18:34

Regarding shopping trollies, a lot of stores don't allow them in now. My local Aldi won't let you enter with one. My local Asda and Morrisons make you leave them at the security guard stands and my local boots and superdrug have stopped people going in too.
They say it's for shoplifting reasons. I know all branches don't ban them, but I live on quite a small town and most of the shops here have banned shopping trollies.

purplebeansprouts · 03/11/2024 18:20

Mumandcarer80 · 03/11/2024 18:15

I put 1 bottle in my DD put the rest of the bottles in my basket. I removed them put them back on the shelf and told her no. Woman was kneeling down a few feet from us pretending to be doing something but was obviously spying on us.

My son struggles with eye contact hates anyone staring at him as she was at his eye level he ran out the shop. I returned said what I said purchased the sun cream as I couldn't get it anywhere else for DS eczema and left. And I don't give a fuck they shouldn't assume if someone is behaving out of the ordinary their a fecking shop lifter.

Yeah I know their just doing their job. I do usually cooperate when a tag is left on etc. But the way she was there staring at us when there was CCTV pics all the time. Of people in the local paper walking out with hundreds of pounds of products including expensive electrical items all the time. Maybe if she had picked on them and not a parent with two obviously disabled children it really did piss me off then they those thefts could have been prevented.

People with disabled kids nick stuff too

Mumandcarer80 · 03/11/2024 18:15

DoreenonTill8 · 03/11/2024 15:04

That's a bit odd... watching you because you put a bottle of sunlotion in your basket, or because your child cleared the shelf? As in knocked everything off?
She was likely doing her job, but lovely misogyny with the 'old bag' comment and verbal abuse!

I put 1 bottle in my DD put the rest of the bottles in my basket. I removed them put them back on the shelf and told her no. Woman was kneeling down a few feet from us pretending to be doing something but was obviously spying on us.

My son struggles with eye contact hates anyone staring at him as she was at his eye level he ran out the shop. I returned said what I said purchased the sun cream as I couldn't get it anywhere else for DS eczema and left. And I don't give a fuck they shouldn't assume if someone is behaving out of the ordinary their a fecking shop lifter.

Yeah I know their just doing their job. I do usually cooperate when a tag is left on etc. But the way she was there staring at us when there was CCTV pics all the time. Of people in the local paper walking out with hundreds of pounds of products including expensive electrical items all the time. Maybe if she had picked on them and not a parent with two obviously disabled children it really did piss me off then they those thefts could have been prevented.

Ellmau · 03/11/2024 18:15

I can honestly say I haven’t seen anyone using a personal shopping trolley of any kind since about 1983

My DM has one, and I occasionally use it if I'm staying with her and walking to the shops and expecting to buy a lot. It's brilliant!

MumblesParty · 03/11/2024 17:15

OP if you’re a hoarder they’ve probably done you a favour, saving you from buying more stuff you don’t need.

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 03/11/2024 16:37

Another telltale sign of a shoplifter is not having a receipt.

Octopies · 03/11/2024 16:27

One of the telltale signs of a shoplifter is them looking around to see whether security or staff are watching. If you're looking to see whether security are watching you, then you're drawing unecessary attention to yourself.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 03/11/2024 16:26

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:45

'Did the security guards during this incident actually come up either side of you and herd you out of the shop? Where they within a foot or two of you either side trying to intimidate you out of the shop? That’s not OK. They can’t behave like that and you should absolutely complain.'
Yes they did exactly that.

Then surely you say 'excuse me, what are you doing?!'

doodleschnoodle · 03/11/2024 16:22

@GhostCicada But it's not the only odd thing. In fact the smiling is the least odd thing about this all.

OP by admission is going around the shop, picking out lots of things and carrying them in her arms, and then going and putting them back, etc. Not as a one-off but as a habitual behaviour. This is a common shoplifting tactic as it's harder to keep track of what the person has visually if they are carrying around lots of stuff, putting things back, juggling it around. It's like the confusion tactic with money, overload the person with information so they don't notice discrepancies.

She sounds like she's then just buying small low value items, is constantly looking at security, watching what they are doing, is being very defensive and OTT about receipts, etc.

None of this is normal shopper behaviour. I suspect OP does have some issues aside from ADHD which is causing some of the issues here, particularly with regards to communication, but the fact is her behaviour is outside of most normal shoppers and probably will make people look more.

It doesn't sound like she's actually been accused of shoplifting or asked to leave anyway, it's all just her interpretation.

Calamitousness · 03/11/2024 16:19

You need to change your behaviour. Security are right to protect from shoplifting and your behaviour is indicative of how these people behave. Change how you shop or accept this will happen again. Agree with op, take a basket. No trolley. No big bag.

TheDeepLemonHelper · 03/11/2024 16:18

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GoldenPheasant · 03/11/2024 16:16

If you think there's a danger that a basket might tempt you to buy more than you need, they you're forewarned and protected. Just make a list, take a basket, and keep to the list. Problem solved.

GoldenPheasant · 03/11/2024 16:12

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 14:00

They didn't. They 'edged' me out of threshop, towering over me.

Why didn't you just walk away?

Onthesideofthespiders · 03/11/2024 16:12

decorativecushions · 03/11/2024 14:36

If I worked in a shop, I too would be hella suspicious of someone with a big shopping trolley in a shop like boots. It is odd behaviour. Why not just take some carrier bags or a backpack if you're planning on making several purchases? I've never come across anyone doing that, so it would get my suspicious up unfortunately.

Clearly there's something about you that makes you seem suspicious and shifty OP, if it's happened more than once. Maybe time to ditch the big shopping trolley and behave a little less excitedly around products.

You’ve never come across a person using those shopping trolleys which little old ladies used to always use? If anything, they’re more popular than they used to be because younger people use them to. It’s actually not at all odd the be using those personal shopping trolleys.

Ophy83 · 03/11/2024 16:11

It's really hard to hold multiple cosmetic products in your hand whilst also pushing a trolley. Use the basket. If you're worried it will make you buy more then write a list in advance and stick to it. At the moment your behaviour- probably combined with your awareness of the security guards - is making you look dodgy and attracting their attention.

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tsmainsqueeze · 03/11/2024 15:52

The way you describe yourself and your behaviour when buying stuff does make me think you probably do look like you have something to hide ,even though you are innocent.
If this is how you naturally present i don't know how you can change things but as shops lose such vast amounts due to shop lifting you can understand why the security may behave the way they do , obviously they have no right to make people feel intimidated.

zingally · 03/11/2024 15:52

This is a whole lot of fuss over nothing.

So what if you're a hoarder with ADHD? If someone is coming into a shop with a large trolley, and madly grabbing at things on the shelves, then yeah, I'd probably keep an eye on them as well. Especially if you're often coming into the shop with your large trolley and frantic grabbing. They're probably wondering what on earth you are using all this stuff for.

Just get a regular shopping basket from the front of the shop, and make more of an effort to get and keep hold of your receipt. No biggie.

WillowTit · 03/11/2024 15:51

just take a receipt!
dont be edged out

FjordPrefect · 03/11/2024 15:42

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 14:08

I used to work in retail, it IS a psychological trick to make you buy more.

I obviously didn't get high up enough for them to divulge everything, but it is quite hard to trick someone who is aware of the trick...

youheard · 03/11/2024 15:39

mumda · 03/11/2024 15:37

The current nonsense of almost universally ending the automatic giving of receipts is crap. Always get a receipt.

receipts can’t be recycled because of the ink that’s used so getting rid of them
is a good thing

But in the OP’s case - ask for one

And OP get help for your hoarding. You sound very unwell

Demonhunter · 03/11/2024 15:39

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 14:08

I used to work in retail, it IS a psychological trick to make you buy more.

You sound exremely paranoid.

PlacidPenelope · 03/11/2024 15:38

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 14:09

Because I was scared and didn't want to draw attention to myself.

You are drawing attention to yourself by your behaviour when shopping.

Change your behaviour as other pp's have suggested - use a basket, quell your so I can be a bit eager with products/enthusiasm for lip glosses and always, always, get the receipt for your purchases.

mumda · 03/11/2024 15:37

The current nonsense of almost universally ending the automatic giving of receipts is crap. Always get a receipt.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 03/11/2024 15:30

If you are paranoid about this, why often forget your receipt?

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