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To ask a man to move at parkrun

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brownbear201 · 02/11/2024 23:45

I am curious as to what you all think of this incident I had whilst running a parkrun this morning. The parkrun I was running was quite a narrow parkrun- it’s an out and back and you run down a track. The track itself is not very wide and faster runners come back towards slower runners on the return if that makes sense. As I was running earlier I was behind a man running with a dog. He was young-ish probably in his early twenties. He wasn’t going super slowly or anything but I wanted to go faster and overtake. However, there were faster runners coming towards me. As he had a dog I couldn’t get past him, if he hadn’t had a dog I would have been able to squeeze past. To be fair he had the dog on a very short fixed lead and was as far left as he could get but because the dog was running at his side I couldn’t get past. I said to him as I was coming up from behind him “Can you move your dog over please?” And he replied “Can you be patient like everyone else?” I ignored him saying this and I was eventually able to overtake him and I heard him muttering about impatient people and just ignored him. A short while later I pulled over to the side to catch my breath- I was out of the way whilst I did this as past the narrow section. He then ran past me again and said “You’ve gotten far considering you were so desperate to get past” I didn’t say anything back to him. Was I right to just ignore him? He wasn’t big or intimidating looking by any means and he didn’t shout but it was the way he looked at me that left me a bit unsettled. AIBU? Was I wrong to ask him to move?

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YellowAsteroid · 03/11/2024 06:09

You were rude.

Plumedenom · 03/11/2024 06:05

YABU to do parkrun.
The best bit about running is no one else is there. Go the park at any other time and it will be exponentially more enjoyable.

rwalker · 03/11/2024 05:59

Oh dear I think you made a twat of yourself

he had the dog in a short lead doing his best to be considerate

then you made a big thing about getting past then had to stop to get your breath

Disasterclass · 03/11/2024 05:45

Both our local park runs don't allow dogs at all now as there's just too many people.

I love parkrun but I do think many of them have been organised in parks that started well but now aren't that good courses for the number of runners. Being stuck on narrow tracks, not able to go at the pace you want or over take just sounds too frustrating to me

TheDuck2018 · 03/11/2024 05:42

Unless dogs aren't allowed, the man didn't do anything wrong, op herself says he had the dog on a short lead and as close to him as possible.
Op, on the other hand, made herself look an absolute dick by impatiently asking him to move then having to stop to catch her breath ....that's just embarrassing!

pastapestoparmesan · 03/11/2024 04:01

Birdscratch · 03/11/2024 01:36

It’s mad. There are now 3 routes being used simultaneously at my local one, which is supposed to keep things moving. It just means that a much bigger area is completely unusable. It’s a solid mass of people the length and breadth of the paths.

I’m fascinated to know where 3 parkruns are held in the same park at once?!

eightIsNewNine · 03/11/2024 03:44

Well done for asking when it mattered for you. It is normal that people who participate in the same event let the faster ones pass, and when he was taking more space than usual person (because of the dog) he needs to be slightly more accommodating than a usual person.

Your running style and pacing is irrelevant now.

His dig was a bit dickish, some men don't like giving space to others, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't have to.

QueSyrahSyrah · 03/11/2024 03:21

If you were driving and someone was tailgating, beeped, overtook and then was stuck at the lights when you got there would you think 'ha, look how far all that got you'? Maybe you wouldn't say it, but you may well think it.

Same thing. I run Parkrun every week and also one with two out and back track sections that can be hard to overtake on. I'd hang back and wait for a space (frustrating as it may be) unless I was very confident that I was then going to leave him in my dust and wasn't going to need to stop completely further on.

Lucy25 · 03/11/2024 03:06

Really not a big deal.
And does depend on your tone.If you ask someone to move, it doesn’t mean they have to do it.Then having to stop, shortly after, to catch your breath, just shows you could’ve relaxed your pace for a minute.He wasn’t in the wrong having his dog there, because it’s a public park.If there were signs to say no dogs, then fair enough.

Operatenate · 03/11/2024 02:16

Think that you are taking Parkrun too seriously.

I would probably have made a snide remark as well if I’d seen you stopping after being impatient with me on a public path.

Birdscratch · 03/11/2024 01:36

It’s mad. There are now 3 routes being used simultaneously at my local one, which is supposed to keep things moving. It just means that a much bigger area is completely unusable. It’s a solid mass of people the length and breadth of the paths.

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/11/2024 01:33

I'm genuinely sorry for what you've gone through and why you've had to go through it

Who's a what now?

MartinCrieffsLemon · 03/11/2024 01:31

LBFseBrom · 03/11/2024 01:29

I never realised park run was such a big deal.

Op, why not just go for a run on your own? That would be more comfortable.

ParkRun is a huge deal now apparently...

We were running an event in the local park. All council approved and above board. We had to stop setting up for an hour so the ParkRun people could use the space... which meant we had to get up earlier to make sure we had enough time

setmestraightplease · 03/11/2024 01:29

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/11/2024 01:05

No, I learned by joining a run group started by a runner who taught me well. She is a research scientist trying to cure cancers who thought the best thing she could do for cancer is teach as many old, fat, injured and lazy people as possible (I tick all those boxes but one) how to run.

Had I learned the hard way I would not have carried on running. Not a doubt in my mind. She taught us how to do intervals, run hills so we didn't die, slow down not stop, and when people get injuries or have a hard time, she finds a way to sort us out. It doesn't cost anything. But when we finally run a 10k, she posts donation links to cancer charities while we are on a high 

I am now that annoying wanker who bangs on about running. 10 years ago I was morally opposed to running for a bus.

Maybe OP is young, skinny and all piss and vinegar and can learn the hard way. All power to her arm.

I'm genuinely sorry for what you've gone through and why you've had to go through it

............... but I wonder how it's relevant to OP's situation?

Birdscratch · 03/11/2024 01:29

His dog and the other runners were blocking you and YOU WERE ALL BLOCKING ANYONE ELSE FROM USING THE SPACE BECAUSE PARK RUN IS NOW TOO POPULAR TO ACTUALLY WORK. If you want to overtake, just run on your own at a different time like a normal person. If you want to run with everyone else, learn to deal with the crush.

LBFseBrom · 03/11/2024 01:29

I never realised park run was such a big deal.

Op, why not just go for a run on your own? That would be more comfortable.

setmestraightplease · 03/11/2024 01:22

@jen337 Equally if someone’s on a go slow with a dog, just slow down till you can get past, even if it adds a few seconds to your “time”. PSA no one cares about your “time”. Why do people even care what anyone else is doing?

I think you've missed the whole point of a parkrun?

no one cares about your “time” the person doing the "time" cares (part of the whole point of of doing a parkrun)

Why do people even care what anyone else is doing?

From the point of view of the runner with the dog - no, they didn't care what anyone else was doing

From the point of view of the runner - of course they do becauses it impacts on them and what they're trying to achieve

pizzaHeart · 03/11/2024 01:17

TheSmallAssassin · 03/11/2024 00:03

I think it was OK for you to ask and it would have been OK for him to say no. But he was a dick for being passive aggressive when you asked and making a snide remark when he passed you.

This^
It wasn’t a big deal for him to hold his dog and let you overtake him, it’s a Parkrun not Olympics, there was no need for all his comments.

I think you were absolutely right: you asked politely to hold the dog and then you ignored stupid comments.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 03/11/2024 01:11

ClairDeLaLune · 03/11/2024 00:49

Why do fucking dogs have to go everywhere? Parkrun should be humans only imo. YANBU OP.

I agree dogs are too welcome everywhere now

But Parkrun is literally just running in a park. Dogs are allowed in a park. Dogs should be allowed in a park.

If they want to run in a dedicated, dog free space then hire a track

Raquelos · 03/11/2024 01:07

No, sorry. This isn't a man thing or a dog thing. Park runs take place in public parks. People have as much right to use those parks for their recreation as people running, people also have the right to run in park runs in the way they choose, even with dogs. If you're chasing a PB choose a better environment.

He irritated you and then you irritated him and then you set yourself up for him to snark at you in his irritation. No drama, just two people being imperfect. If it's any consolation both of you are closer to perfection than I am for hauling your asses out to a run on a cold November day. I was definitely sitting on mine at home 😀

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/11/2024 01:05

setmestraightplease · 03/11/2024 00:55

@MrsTerryPratchett But the OP can learn the hard way. I'll helpfully shut up now
I think OP can learn in her own time and in her own way

i.e. the way that you have learned and the way that we all learn.

We learn by experience.... ??

.......... and she wasn't wrong if the man and the dog were causing an obstruction.

Sometimes people just are inconsiderate!!

Edited

No, I learned by joining a run group started by a runner who taught me well. She is a research scientist trying to cure cancers who thought the best thing she could do for cancer is teach as many old, fat, injured and lazy people as possible (I tick all those boxes but one) how to run.

Had I learned the hard way I would not have carried on running. Not a doubt in my mind. She taught us how to do intervals, run hills so we didn't die, slow down not stop, and when people get injuries or have a hard time, she finds a way to sort us out. It doesn't cost anything. But when we finally run a 10k, she posts donation links to cancer charities while we are on a high 

I am now that annoying wanker who bangs on about running. 10 years ago I was morally opposed to running for a bus.

Maybe OP is young, skinny and all piss and vinegar and can learn the hard way. All power to her arm.

TheSmallAssassin · 03/11/2024 01:00

jen337 · 03/11/2024 00:35

This is what I’m talking about. Pacing? It’s running around a park not the diamond league. Equally if someone’s on a go slow with a dog, just slow down till you can get past, even if it adds a few seconds to your “time”. PSA no one cares about your “time”. Why do people even care what anyone else is doing?

People care about their own time though and want to improve. If they didn't, why would there be any times recorded or published?

setmestraightplease · 03/11/2024 00:55

@MrsTerryPratchett But the OP can learn the hard way. I'll helpfully shut up now
I think OP can learn in her own time and in her own way

i.e. the way that you have learned and the way that we all learn.

We learn by experience.... ??

.......... and she wasn't wrong if the man and the dog were causing an obstruction.

Sometimes people just are inconsiderate!!

ClairDeLaLune · 03/11/2024 00:49

Why do fucking dogs have to go everywhere? Parkrun should be humans only imo. YANBU OP.

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/11/2024 00:45

Oh and I assume the OP is a reverse BTW.