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To ask a man to move at parkrun

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brownbear201 · 02/11/2024 23:45

I am curious as to what you all think of this incident I had whilst running a parkrun this morning. The parkrun I was running was quite a narrow parkrun- it’s an out and back and you run down a track. The track itself is not very wide and faster runners come back towards slower runners on the return if that makes sense. As I was running earlier I was behind a man running with a dog. He was young-ish probably in his early twenties. He wasn’t going super slowly or anything but I wanted to go faster and overtake. However, there were faster runners coming towards me. As he had a dog I couldn’t get past him, if he hadn’t had a dog I would have been able to squeeze past. To be fair he had the dog on a very short fixed lead and was as far left as he could get but because the dog was running at his side I couldn’t get past. I said to him as I was coming up from behind him “Can you move your dog over please?” And he replied “Can you be patient like everyone else?” I ignored him saying this and I was eventually able to overtake him and I heard him muttering about impatient people and just ignored him. A short while later I pulled over to the side to catch my breath- I was out of the way whilst I did this as past the narrow section. He then ran past me again and said “You’ve gotten far considering you were so desperate to get past” I didn’t say anything back to him. Was I right to just ignore him? He wasn’t big or intimidating looking by any means and he didn’t shout but it was the way he looked at me that left me a bit unsettled. AIBU? Was I wrong to ask him to move?

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pastapestoparmesan · 03/11/2024 16:31

Birdscratch · 03/11/2024 06:36

It’s not 3 separate ones it’s one with slow and fast route options.

They may not be official but where the slowest with dogs and buggies go one way and the fastest go another leaving the main route and rejoining it later.

Edited

So two routes, not 3? How much of the course is this for? I’ve never seen people go on different routes at any parkrun, I reckon it must be unique.

Kool4katz · 03/11/2024 16:01

Cherrysoup · 03/11/2024 14:21

He was as far left as possible with a short fixed lead, other runners were lapping you as faster. I’d tell you to get lost if I were out with my dog, parkrun does not take precedence over a dog Walker (runner) and he had you behind and faster runners in front. You should have waited, especially as you stopped for a breather. Where did you want him to go? In the undergrowth?

He was taking part in Parkrun, not out for a gentle walk with his dog.

Therefore the Parkrun rules are clear whether the entrant is running alone or with a dog on a lead, they should step aside to make way to allow faster runners to overtake them rather than holding them up.

The fact that she stopped later on is completely irrelevant.

BellissimoGecko · 03/11/2024 15:57

Oh dear, OP, learn to pace yourself! That's embarrassing rushing past someone then having to stop for a breather...

Cherrysoup · 03/11/2024 14:21

He was as far left as possible with a short fixed lead, other runners were lapping you as faster. I’d tell you to get lost if I were out with my dog, parkrun does not take precedence over a dog Walker (runner) and he had you behind and faster runners in front. You should have waited, especially as you stopped for a breather. Where did you want him to go? In the undergrowth?

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/11/2024 14:16

Attelina · 03/11/2024 13:23

You should have been patient and let the faster runners coming towards you pass before over taking him.

Saying that though, anyone running with a dog is a CUNT unless the breed is a husky etc.

This is a hot take. Why? DDog would be very annoyed to hear that.

FrivolousKitchenRollUse · 03/11/2024 14:13

Doesn't sound a great course layout and whilst he could have been more accommodating you obviously didn't need to get past him if you had to pull over after. Sounds like the athletic equivalent of getting overtaken by a boy racer and then pulling up along side them at the red lights.

BogRollBOGOF · 03/11/2024 13:54

We've got a narrow section, two wide (but one-way) that creates bottlenecks and jams up at the peak paces of the run. When I had to keep my then u11 DCs in arm's length, I'd get them to run in front not to the side in order not to jam everyone else wanting to run at their own pace. When the DCs were young, that's where we'd get lapped by the front runners so had to keep my ears out in order not to be a trip hazard of someone running over twice as quickly.

Yesterday I was solo, bided my time behind someone awkwardly just a bit slower, passed where there's a bit more give, heard panting behind and released someone wanting to go faster than me.
On the previous lap, DS was next to me and had to slow to a brisk walk, whereas my legs were in that awkward joggy mode that's not quite a walk or a run. Some betweeny paces are quite awkward and it can be easier to speed up or slow down, but then you lose momentum.

Sometimes you have to be patient. Sometimes it's appropriate to politely ask people so you can pass. I prefer to give dogs more space because they're unpredictable, and might swing to the side as a trip hazard, or be startled.

Getting snarky because someone passed you and now you've caught up is crappy regardless.

Teddyjumper · 03/11/2024 13:28

He should make way for faster runners because a lot of Park runners are looking to improve their times.
My whole family are involved in Park Run and I think dogs should not be allowed. There have been several injuries caused by dogs, and one instance of a runner being bitten. The runners in question were far too forgiving in my opinion.

Attelina · 03/11/2024 13:23

You should have been patient and let the faster runners coming towards you pass before over taking him.

Saying that though, anyone running with a dog is a CUNT unless the breed is a husky etc.

Levie · 03/11/2024 13:13

It’s polite to move over without being asked if someone faster is coming up behind you. And it’s quite reasonable for the OP to have asked the dog guy to let her through. There’s certainly no need for snide remarks from dog guy.

it sounds like the course is not suitable for runners with dogs.

Coldfinch · 03/11/2024 13:05

@brownbear201 I think it’s fair to feel annoyed at not being able to go past at your own pace but as someone with lots of training experience I’d say you should work on gauging your pace before you stop - start. You were clearly running beyond your ability and if you’d overtaken me like that I would have made a comment as well. Learn from it and be patient - as other‘s said, it’s a little fun run. If the crowds annoy you then just run by yourself in the countryside.

midgetastic · 03/11/2024 12:57

The man could turn sideways with his dog alongside that way to let people past - just a lazy jerk

gannett · 03/11/2024 12:53

surreygirl1987 · 03/11/2024 12:28

I disagree. Anyone who decides to bring a dog to a running event should go out of their way to ensure the dog is not in the way of actual people running. The entitlement of dog owners continues to baffle me. OP I think you were right, and actually very restrained - I'd have said a lot more.

It's quite clear that people aren't reading the OP's description of the path very well. The man was as far over to the left as he could be and the dog was on a short fixed lead - that IS ensuring the dog isn't in the way of anyone else. OP still couldn't pass them which to me suggests the path was too narrow for overtaking of any sort, and it wasn't anyone's fault.

RedHelenB · 03/11/2024 12:52

surreygirl1987 · 03/11/2024 12:28

I disagree. Anyone who decides to bring a dog to a running event should go out of their way to ensure the dog is not in the way of actual people running. The entitlement of dog owners continues to baffle me. OP I think you were right, and actually very restrained - I'd have said a lot more.

Its a park run though, not a competitive event. There are plenty of races where there are no dogs allowed. At park run you csn run with buggies, with children of any age and with dogs on a short lead It's a fun event.

gannett · 03/11/2024 12:51

midgetastic · 03/11/2024 12:10

Well having your stride interrupted makes it harder to pace and more exhausting than going at your natural rhythm so I won't hold that against her

Yes but that also applies to him, given she expected him to stop and let her pass?

As a runenr I know my ideal run is where I get to set my own pace all the way round and don't have to deviate from my path or think about anyone else at any point but unfortunately that's not how public spaces work, and sometimes you have to slow down even when you don't want to.

surreygirl1987 · 03/11/2024 12:28

Jlort · 02/11/2024 23:59

Surely a reverse? Otherwise you're a tit. People are allowed to run with their dogs and he was being sensible. You were rude!

I disagree. Anyone who decides to bring a dog to a running event should go out of their way to ensure the dog is not in the way of actual people running. The entitlement of dog owners continues to baffle me. OP I think you were right, and actually very restrained - I'd have said a lot more.

midgetastic · 03/11/2024 12:10

Well having your stride interrupted makes it harder to pace and more exhausting than going at your natural rhythm so I won't hold that against her

ttcat37 · 03/11/2024 12:07

So, you got grumpy at someone going too slowly, got by them, then had to stop to catch your breath? On a 5k? I don’t think your ability matches your confidence

zingally · 03/11/2024 11:41

It's park run, it's not that serious.

He's got a valid point. Bursting to get past, but then stopping because you've over-exerted? I agree with him that it made you look a bit silly.

ACynicalDad · 03/11/2024 11:35

I parkrun with a dog and can get him in front of me in these circumstances, but the pulling over bit, you asked for.

B2Y · 03/11/2024 11:31

Hold on... Let's get this straight?

You are running, in a public shared space and a stranger who is doing everything he can not to be an inconvenience is barked at by you to move over?

I would have told you to F off. Entitled.

LizzoBennett · 03/11/2024 11:28

I think that the fact you weren't fit enough to complete the run without stopping means that you probably should have just been patient. If you were looking to secure a PB then it would be different, but it sounds like you were just looking to complete the run at any pace - which is fine. It does mean that there was no need for you to inconvenience someone else though when there was little to gain from doing so. I would have thought what he said, but I wouldn't have said it.

Butchyrestingface · 03/11/2024 11:24

lottiegarbanzo · 03/11/2024 11:21

I think we're talking at cross purposes @Butchyrestingface

At the Parkruns I've been to, other park users tend to keep away from the paths used by the Parkrun for the duration. It's way too crowded with runners for an enjoyable walk. especially along a narrow section as the OP describes.

The purpose of contacting the organisers is to address the general issue of this particular course being too narrow for Parkrunners to be running with dogs.

Fair enough. There does seem to be some variation in the set-up of the Parkruns from place to place.

lottiegarbanzo · 03/11/2024 11:21

I think we're talking at cross purposes @Butchyrestingface

At the Parkruns I've been to, other park users tend to keep away from the paths used by the Parkrun for the duration. It's way too crowded with runners for an enjoyable walk. especially along a narrow section as the OP describes.

The purpose of contacting the organisers is to address the general issue of this particular course being too narrow for Parkrunners to be running with dogs.

Ohfuckrucksack · 03/11/2024 11:21

It's a parkrun, not a dog walk. Clue is in the name.