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To ask a man to move at parkrun

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brownbear201 · 02/11/2024 23:45

I am curious as to what you all think of this incident I had whilst running a parkrun this morning. The parkrun I was running was quite a narrow parkrun- it’s an out and back and you run down a track. The track itself is not very wide and faster runners come back towards slower runners on the return if that makes sense. As I was running earlier I was behind a man running with a dog. He was young-ish probably in his early twenties. He wasn’t going super slowly or anything but I wanted to go faster and overtake. However, there were faster runners coming towards me. As he had a dog I couldn’t get past him, if he hadn’t had a dog I would have been able to squeeze past. To be fair he had the dog on a very short fixed lead and was as far left as he could get but because the dog was running at his side I couldn’t get past. I said to him as I was coming up from behind him “Can you move your dog over please?” And he replied “Can you be patient like everyone else?” I ignored him saying this and I was eventually able to overtake him and I heard him muttering about impatient people and just ignored him. A short while later I pulled over to the side to catch my breath- I was out of the way whilst I did this as past the narrow section. He then ran past me again and said “You’ve gotten far considering you were so desperate to get past” I didn’t say anything back to him. Was I right to just ignore him? He wasn’t big or intimidating looking by any means and he didn’t shout but it was the way he looked at me that left me a bit unsettled. AIBU? Was I wrong to ask him to move?

OP posts:
MartinCrieffsLemon · 05/11/2024 16:47

Flowerpower70 · 05/11/2024 14:46

I know. Just saying doesn't hurt to move dog on lead yo let someone pass by. 🙂

But this was a dog on a short lead, right at the side of the path. They were as out of the way as possible. OP was being impatient.

surreygirl1987 · 05/11/2024 15:57

Flowerpower70 · 05/11/2024 14:46

I know. Just saying doesn't hurt to move dog on lead yo let someone pass by. 🙂

Absolutely. Many dog owners seem to think their dogs have more rights than the people around them.

Flowerpower70 · 05/11/2024 14:46

I know. Just saying doesn't hurt to move dog on lead yo let someone pass by. 🙂

MartinCrieffsLemon · 05/11/2024 13:21

Flowerpower70 · 05/11/2024 13:00

I find it frustrating when walking when people have dogs on extending leads and block the pavement not letting pedestrians past and expect people to walk on the road instead of moving their dogs to the side.

Which is not what happened here

Flowerpower70 · 05/11/2024 13:00

I find it frustrating when walking when people have dogs on extending leads and block the pavement not letting pedestrians past and expect people to walk on the road instead of moving their dogs to the side.

Problemzapper · 05/11/2024 09:14

YABU I have to say!

I'm a regular parkrunner, I love it! There are times when slower runners, dogs, babies in prams even do momentarily obstruct me, but that's the nature of parkrun - it is all-inclusive and completely FREE.

I have walked my dog on the route at the back before but never been confident enough to run with her in case she pulls me over, but if anyone tried to dictate to me about moving over I would seriously get the hump!

You were rude, and the fact that you had to 'pull over to catch your breath' meant that you were running at a speed too fast for you anyway, so you could have easily sucked up the slower pace for a little while until you could safely overtake without troubling person in front, and the slower pace would have done you a favour as you might have been able to run whole 5k without stopping - better than sprinting/stopping/sprinting/stopping (although i see a lot of people do that, I must admit). You have completely got the wrong attitude to Parkrun, it's about encouraging others/making allowances - not taking a pop at people!

BrummieCahoots · 05/11/2024 06:50

You ruined that dogs day . He was off out later to tell all the other dogs about his PB and post his dog running map on Facebook

LameBorzoi · 05/11/2024 06:43

You may have had a bit of bad luck here.

I think he was right to be annoyed at being asked to be at the back just because he had a dog. A lot of people run fast with dogs. You should start where you mean to run, dog or no. Doing a lot of overtaking increases the risk of tripping or the dog being kicked.

He was therefore probably already feeling pretty defensive about the dog when you spoke to him.

brownbear201 · 04/11/2024 23:37

I appreciate all the comments and it has been interesting to get different perspectives and I accept that pacing does need work! I spoke to the RD about the incident- not to get the man in trouble but just so they are aware of the interaction. They knew who I was talking about as before the start of the run he was at the front of the start line and a volunteer asked him to go to the back of the crowd because she didn’t think his dog looked like it would be fast enough. Apparently he refused and said his dog was small but very fit and capable of running fast enough. They said he was polite about the refusal so they couldn’t really do anything but he didn’t budge. They don’t know who he is though and haven’t seen him before so they think he’s likely a tourist. As to why he unsettled me, I’m not sure. Like I said he wasn’t tall or imposing in any way. He just had a bit of an unsettling presence. I think it was the way he made direct eye contact as he said it and seemed to want a reaction if that makes sense? I’m not sure but will put it behind me and not ask people to move in future!

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Magnastorm · 04/11/2024 23:21

So you demanded a man move out of your way on a path you admitted was narrow, and then he re-passed you because you can't pace yourself?

Yeah, that would be pretty annoying.

MyNDfamily · 04/11/2024 23:10

brownbear201 · 02/11/2024 23:45

I am curious as to what you all think of this incident I had whilst running a parkrun this morning. The parkrun I was running was quite a narrow parkrun- it’s an out and back and you run down a track. The track itself is not very wide and faster runners come back towards slower runners on the return if that makes sense. As I was running earlier I was behind a man running with a dog. He was young-ish probably in his early twenties. He wasn’t going super slowly or anything but I wanted to go faster and overtake. However, there were faster runners coming towards me. As he had a dog I couldn’t get past him, if he hadn’t had a dog I would have been able to squeeze past. To be fair he had the dog on a very short fixed lead and was as far left as he could get but because the dog was running at his side I couldn’t get past. I said to him as I was coming up from behind him “Can you move your dog over please?” And he replied “Can you be patient like everyone else?” I ignored him saying this and I was eventually able to overtake him and I heard him muttering about impatient people and just ignored him. A short while later I pulled over to the side to catch my breath- I was out of the way whilst I did this as past the narrow section. He then ran past me again and said “You’ve gotten far considering you were so desperate to get past” I didn’t say anything back to him. Was I right to just ignore him? He wasn’t big or intimidating looking by any means and he didn’t shout but it was the way he looked at me that left me a bit unsettled. AIBU? Was I wrong to ask him to move?

Aren't these runs designed for fitness and to be fun. Why are you being so competitive at a park run. Who cares if a dog blocked you for a few minutes. You aren't going to loose out on a gold medal or anything. 😂

MartinCrieffsLemon · 04/11/2024 22:33

A lot of "Parkrun means making allowances for others" meaning "nasty man and horrible dog should jump into a hedge for OP" and not realising it could also mean "entitled running OP needs to give them a space for a moment until she can get past them"

Nogaxeh · 04/11/2024 22:30

I think what the OP did was fine. Nothing wrong in asking if you want to go faster for a bit and I've run-walked in intervals on a parkrun before, so exchanged places with people running at a slower steady pace.

Normally I'm a slower person so I try to make way for faster runners, but sometimes it's not possible and people do have to wait.

The thing with parkrun is that it's about being part of a collective event, so you are sharing a space and everyone has to make room and allowances for everyone else. I don't think he was very pleasant about it.

mongoliandoll · 04/11/2024 22:28

We've got it all here:
Dogs
Dogs on leads
Dogs on leads but not under control
Stampedes
parkrun itself
Runners not knowing how to run

NoDought · 04/11/2024 22:14

You were desperate to get passed then stopped to get your breath, seemed an unnecessary stress but all for people giving space to others in runs. Feeling unsettled seems an over reaction.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 04/11/2024 21:40

Flowerpower70 · 04/11/2024 18:59

I understand where you are coming from. People blocking the pavements with dogs should be more considerate. I often walk and encounter people who have dogs on extending leads blocking the pavement. In the dark the leass can be difficult to see. Roads are busy where i liv and sometimes when walking towards people with dogs they expect you to walk in the road instead of moving their dog over. Rude and inconsiderate.

Not at all what happened here though
Short leash. Right at the side of the road. Not in the dark. Going the same direction. Entitled runner expected him to move.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 04/11/2024 21:29

An eye roll would cover that pointless point scoring. Not worth getting involved with.

Tooes · 04/11/2024 21:26

It sounds like you weren't exactly the best runner or the most gracious person in that park run.

eastegg · 04/11/2024 20:52

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/11/2024 00:44

Yes. Walk-run helps build running, prevent injury, improve times, maintain fitness and all sorts of lovely things. Sprinting then stopping will make you feel terrible, doesn't do anything for your time, and honestly, probably means you won't become a consistent runner.

I am the world's slowest, shittest runner. But I don't <touches wood> get injured. Even though I'm old and was fat. And the reason is that I run slowly, then walk, then run slowly. I can run (slowly) a 10k pretty much tomorrow without walking if I had to. You feel much worse if you stop during runs. If you walk between running portions, you don't.

But the OP can learn the hard way. I'll helpfully shut up now Grin

Yep. Although you’re not the world’s slowest, shittest runner, because I’m pretty sure that’s me. It’s weird because I look like I’d be faster. I slow-jog the whole thing apart from a tiny sprint at the very end which I always try to do because it’s my one tiny chance to overtake maybe one person 😂.

There’s a parkrun near me which is basically an enormous hill you go up and down twice. It suits me quite well because all the fasties have to slow down whereas I can’t go any slower anyway 🤷‍♂️.

Lucy25 · 04/11/2024 20:46

He didn’t raise his voice and he wasn’t insulting, he commented.If someone’s going to be impatient, then the other person may comment.That’s just life, no big drama.

TeenLifeMum · 04/11/2024 19:52

Lucy25 · 04/11/2024 19:22

That’s what happen, shortly after overtaking, OP stopped to catch her breathe, OP has already explained this, so why is it not inline with park run ethos?
The fact that she stopped shortly after is relevant.

Him commenting isn’t in line with park run ethos. She’s total allowed to push herself and realise she’s pushed too hard. Running is a learning curve and criticism isn’t welcome from other runners.

LameBorzoi · 04/11/2024 19:48

Flowerpower70 · 04/11/2024 18:59

I understand where you are coming from. People blocking the pavements with dogs should be more considerate. I often walk and encounter people who have dogs on extending leads blocking the pavement. In the dark the leass can be difficult to see. Roads are busy where i liv and sometimes when walking towards people with dogs they expect you to walk in the road instead of moving their dog over. Rude and inconsiderate.

He wasn't blocking the path. She said that they were sticking to the left.

AutumnLeaves24 · 04/11/2024 19:44

setmestraightplease · 03/11/2024 01:29

I'm genuinely sorry for what you've gone through and why you've had to go through it

............... but I wonder how it's relevant to OP's situation?

@setmestraightplease

seriously??

try reading your posts on this thread, it's bloody obvious what mrsTP's point is!

AutumnLeaves24 · 04/11/2024 19:37

ClairDeLaLune · 03/11/2024 00:49

Why do fucking dogs have to go everywhere? Parkrun should be humans only imo. YANBU OP.

You might hate dogs being there, but they're allowed so 🤷🏻‍♀️ it's a park, not Harrods.

complaining about a dog in a park is pretty pathetic, but if that's how you feel take it up with the park run people, not individuals doing something they're allowed.

Lucy25 · 04/11/2024 19:22

TeenLifeMum · 04/11/2024 13:14

Depends how she asked. Totally fine to say excuse me please. Commenting on her catching her breath later, totally not in line with park run ethos.

That’s what happen, shortly after overtaking, OP stopped to catch her breathe, OP has already explained this, so why is it not inline with park run ethos?
The fact that she stopped shortly after is relevant.