To understand why some women have children within a a short time with multiple different partners?

I'm much more appalled by the men who do this and seem to get away Scot free, face little judgement and, live life as single men with no responsibilities, heck most people seeing these men would have no clue how many children they have fathered. And huge numbers of these men never pay maintenance or just a pittance.

But obviously it's the women we should be slagging off ....🙄

As a child of a mother who was a social worker specifically for (often teenage) single mothers and I learnt there was a myriad of reasons so I had the insight not to ignorantly judge or condemn the mothers.

What is the relevance of psychopaths?!? Very unlikely to be unwittingly mothering multiple children

I don't agree with the broad strokes but can see how a woman with emotionally unstable personality disorder might end up this way due to her intense need for relationships and fear of abandonment.

This was my mum. Back in the 90s it was a bit different though. With each pregnancy she would have a claim to extra benefits, a bigger house.
She had 4 of us in 5 years, all different dad's.
I didn't see my dad, and neither did 2 of my siblings, 4th borns Dad stayed with her, so we had to call him dad and play happy families.

We were neglected, and abused by her and her husband (who was also my Dads brother) and as a mum myself I cannot figure out, or forgive why she continued to have kids.

She had me, she struggled. One of my earliest memories were of her having a friend of a friend to drive us around so she could find skittles and Fanta so she could give them to me, and telling me to act naughty and funny and kick and spit at the people who were coming to see us so I could play with my friend. I now know she was applying for provision for childcare through social services because she needed rest from my behaviour... what behaviour? I only ever acted like that once, on her instructions.
She allowed me to be sexually abused by a man who had a prior incident he was involved in.

I don't understand why she went on to have 3 more children after she knew she wasn't coping.
I was then parentified and took most responsibility of keeping us all together and everything being OK. It was always my fault if it wasn't.

We were used to gain money wherever she could get it. She sometimes worked, I helped with the gardening jobs, I helped with the cleaning jobs, I helped with the Avon rounds.

She used to talk me into doing runs for charity. I was so proud of doing that, until a teacher told me he had proof that we hadn't been giving the money I'd fundraiser to the charities. I was so upset by that, and didn't realise until much later that it was true.

I don't understand either, I kind of wish I did. People like the woman from the OP and my mother have no understanding or care that these are human beings they're screwing up.

I think her childcare providers need to tell her no more… she’s taking the piss… she needs to use a different form of contraception !

I've had the misfortune of dealing with a kid at work who is number 10 or so of 15. The family are absolutely feral, the elder kids have maintained files with Youth Justice all the way from 10 to 18, and the younger kids are heading the same way.

Because this is how chav culture works- and I say this as someone who isn't a twin set and pearls Tory- have kids , get given social housing, get given cash and if you are lucky maintenance on top that doesn't affect your benefits!! These girls may seem a bit dumb- a lot of them are actually quite sharp when it comes to maximising income from state and ex partners- hate to sound harsh but not driving means I've heard the conversations around this multiple times on buses.

Most relationships don't last. Some involve kids, some don't. Some last longer than others. When the long relationships end, the kids are just as upset as they are when short relationships end, often more so, especially if both parents/one parent has been clinging on for grim death long past the sell by date. It's all tricky stuff. As for why people break up, the reasons are as varied as why people got together.

Re the grandparents' involvement, some parents don't do a great deal of parenting. When the parent not doing a lot of parenting is a guy, mostly that isn't questioned.

It's presumably not the choice of the grandparents?? It's wholly irresponsible, and I don't understand it one bit. I have a 25 year old. She got good A levels, moved away from home for uni, did internships in her field in London for a year, then worked and saved money to study in Europe. Nearing the end of her course and has achieved so much, and we're hopeful that she will be successful in her chosen industry.

I would feel we had failed if she had produced multiple children with unreliable men.

Mental health and adverse childhood experiences.

I don't think such women set our wanting children by multiple men, none of whom take any responsibility (emotional and financial) or interest in their offspring,

I feel desperately sorry for the women left with the burden and responsibility. I feel utter contempt for the selfish, irresponsible males who feel no duty of care towards their own children,

Yes sometimes a one off is a genuine mistake or non consensual.

Back in the day, I can understand why they locked the second group up in insane asylums, it would have been cheaper and caused less social harm.

Multiple partners suggests that you have a pair of psychopaths breeding other psychopaths, not that anyone asks to be born.

Other people are being affected too.

None of this fits with the grandparents miraculously stepping up to care for the babies though.

there’s a woman at my kids school like this, 6 kids 3 different dads only 30 years old, it’s also obvious that they have different fathers as some are mixed and some are white so can’t even pass for full siblings. very small gap between each child as her oldest has only just started secondary this year so wasted no time between having another i try to not judge but i really don’t understand it.

Some people really don't see it as a big deal. Mostly men. I don't know if it would be fair to say that the women think they can change the men?!

I have a friend of a friend who was talking about having a baby with his new gf and I said something along the lines of it being new and might not last (very politely put at the time) and he said yeah it might not but that's how it is sometimes. He only has one kid and is touching 40 but I was annoyed that some poor kid could be crying their dad isn't about and he can't see it being a problem.

I used to have young friends who always said they were allergic to contraception and seemed to pop kids out but when they grew up a bit realised it was actually a lot of work and magically found something that worked for them.

I grew up in an impoverished area with a lot of families on benefits and drugs. Sounds harsh but it isn't so common outside of areas like that.

I also think there's a lot of waste of space men about and it would be easy to have three long term relationships and have kids with each - then see the real them or it just not work out.

I always wonder this. Surely you'd learn from the first time or at least the second. Lots of contraception options available and it's unfair to bring babies willy nilly into unstable and unsuitable situations. There's no excuse.

OP there are two types of people who end up homeless and the reasons are personality disorders and severe depression.

Psychopaths do not just destroy others they destroy themselves as they lack fear.

As Peterson said sequential short term sexual relationships are the behaviour of a personality disordered individual, as they eventually become one from the behaviour if they didn't start out as one. The definition of a Psychopath is someone who uses others for personal gain, they lack a good long term strategy as they live on whyms.

What’s your actual question OP?

They’re insecure
They lack a solid family upbringing of their own
Their own father was absent
They're desperate to be loved
They are of below average intelligence
They like the child benefits

I don't think my answer will be popular, but, I honestly believe it comes down to low IQ. Anybody with average intelligence understands the need to be with a partner, settled, and financially secure before purposefully bringing a baby into the world. Of course I'm generally speaking there; I know some women do it on their own purposely and don't need/want a partner, but from my experience, those women who do it alone (with donors) have generally made themselves financially secure beforehand.

I feel that those with lower intelligence don't think through anything more than the immediate pleasure of sex. They don't apply any thinking to that night creating a life, the cost of that life, the nourishment and nurture that little person needs to become a well-balanced individual.

I can take one child being conceived unintentionally, but when it becomes a repeated pattern, it's just poor choice.

Lack of intelligence and people enabling those bad choices

I suggest OP keeps herself safe and we the mug taxpayers get ready for the crime/SS tax bill.

Why is your question about women when it could just as easily apply to men?

The obvious answer is that some people, for a wide and complex variety of reasons, have very poor impulse control/executive function/ability to pair choice with consequence, etc etc.

There are many people out there who simply can’t receive good advice.

They are not all out having babies, many of them are busy fucking up their own lives and those of others through making shitty choices in the realms of financial irresponsibility, substance misuse, illegal activities, abusive behaviours, at-work negligence and so on.

So what do you suggest? Enforced sterilisation?

The grandparents have a choice. They don't have to do the childcare.

I'm just not sure what the point of this thread is to be honest.

Some women are just the desperate sort that think having a baby is a way to show love/a way to keep their partner. They tend to love being with men more than they like actually having/looking after their children.