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How do people incorporate fridge freezers into new kitchens these days?

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Flump5 · 02/11/2024 22:38

Was planning on boxing in an American ff but reading the other thread worried about replacing in a short period of time and not finding a replacement that fits. Integrated just seems too small for our needs,free standing doesn’t look quite as streamlined….

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minipie · 03/11/2024 21:20

Flump5 · 03/11/2024 07:06

Out of interest are your cupboards ceiling height?It’s not the width that’s an issue but the height(and depth to some extent but aware it will stick out), both seem to vary a lot. We also need one that doesn’t need too big an opening circle. Good idea re the filler strip.

Sorry just saw this, yes our cupboards are ceiling height, all the way to the ceiling.

Re ventilation our filler strip doesn’t fully meet the F/F, there is a small gap. This is also so we can slide the F/F out if ever needed.

Our fridge is 1780 high and seems there are a lot this sort of height? But if we got one taller we’d cut down the filler strip and it would still fit.

Not sure what you mean about opening circle. IME they are all much the same - they all need you to be able to open the door nearly 180 degrees so you can pull the bottom drawers out.

mitogoshigg · 03/11/2024 21:20

I boxed mine in but has space so can go wider (in meantime the ironing board fits!)

Zestylemo · 03/11/2024 21:18

Flump5 · 02/11/2024 23:00

This was what we were going to have with an American FF but sadly are finding they vary massively with width height and depth and there are issues with doors opening. Have stories online of owners struggling to get new ones to fit. Is yours just a regular FF.?Are they all the same?

You can get an integrated one but without attaching integrated doors. We did that, so we have it boxed in BUT it is flush with the cabinets and the doors are visible.

MissConductUS · 03/11/2024 21:18

As an American, this discussion always amuses me because what you call an American fridge, we call a side by side or French door style fridge, and they're not big sellers here.

https://www.kitchenaid.com/pinch-of-help/major-appliances/french-door-side-by-side.html

The most popular style fridge here is freezer on top, fridge below. They also tend to be the most energy efficient.

I'm currently redoing our kitchen, and we're going to keep our enormous, free standing LG fridge with the freezer compartment on top. Americans love a big fridge. Mine is 24 cubic feet capacity split between the freezer and fridge.

French Door vs. Side by Side: Which Refrigerator is Best? | KitchenAid

French door refrigerators have fridge space on top and a freezer below. Side by side fridges have a top-to-bottom refrigerator style. Learn more about both fridge layouts.

https://www.kitchenaid.com/pinch-of-help/major-appliances/french-door-side-by-side.html

Prisonpillow · 03/11/2024 21:11

Whether they’re smaller, more expensive to buy, more expensive to run, I’d still always have integrated for the look.

Same with when we used to have the washing machine in the kitchen, I’d take a smaller drum for having it integrated.

WonderingWanda · 03/11/2024 21:08

We have an integrated fridge freezer in the kitchen and then another free standing fridge freezer in the utility room.

Makingchocolatecake · 03/11/2024 21:06

Function is more important than appearance.

NotMeNoNo · 03/11/2024 17:11

Just leave a gap of the right size for a freestanding one. Looking streamlined is overrated IMO. Kitchens have to be practical first.

thankyouforthedayz · 03/11/2024 17:08

I will never ever ever get integrated white goods again. If they need repair or replacing it's an utter pita.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 03/11/2024 13:00

I bought a house with integrated side by side under counter fridge and freezer and hate them. Not enough space in either, even though they have the largest capacity of any integrated ones on the market.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 03/11/2024 12:38

2Rebecca · 02/11/2024 22:41

All white goods should be free standing. Better value for money, choice, flexibility and easier to replace

I tend to agree - integrated appliances are fine (if small) when your kitchen is newly fitted. But as they wear out and need repairs and replacement, they become an absolute headache. It is like signing a contract that limits your future options and will cost you time and money down the line.

Lytlethings · 03/11/2024 12:28

We were recently looking for a new kitchen but abandoned it when we could not get a fridge and freezer suitable. I have looked at so many and the capacity is ridiculous unless you go very large. I was happy to go free standing . The size though really does not look good when everything else is integrated.

midgetastic · 03/11/2024 12:23

Judgy judgy people

I like my free standing - I think it looks real and normal

poetryandwine · 03/11/2024 12:22

PS And cabinets over

poetryandwine · 03/11/2024 12:20

We have a boxed in freestanding American style FF. One side is boxed only up to worktop height and the other side is a broom closet. It is worktop depth so it doesn’t jut out.

Ours is 12 years old, side-by-side and going strong. When it dies I hope to find one of the same dimensions but with a French door fridge on top and freezer below. Worst case, we can swap out the broom closet if necessary.

FiloPasty · 03/11/2024 12:06

We had the Samsung American one boxed in the gas started to leak at the back after 7 years so we bought the exact same one

iamtheblcksheep · 03/11/2024 12:04

I have an integrated American with ice and water. It’s still on AO at around £1200 so very reasonable and cheap to replace if it fails.

iamtheblcksheep · 03/11/2024 12:02

2Rebecca · 02/11/2024 22:41

All white goods should be free standing. Better value for money, choice, flexibility and easier to replace

And looks tack tacky tacky

noworklifebalance · 03/11/2024 11:45

Yes, ventilation is important for longevity of your appliance and this is a potential issue with ceiling height cabinets.
Top boxes that go across the top of the FF are usually half depth so allow for ventilation at the back as long the ceiling does not block the gap at the back!

Aliflowers · 03/11/2024 11:32

Flump5 · 03/11/2024 07:06

Out of interest are your cupboards ceiling height?It’s not the width that’s an issue but the height(and depth to some extent but aware it will stick out), both seem to vary a lot. We also need one that doesn’t need too big an opening circle. Good idea re the filler strip.

Also to say our cupboards are ceiling height. So we have two broom type cupboards with a narrow cupboard above like below

How do people incorporate fridge freezers into new kitchens these days?
Aliflowers · 03/11/2024 11:25

Flump5 · 02/11/2024 23:00

This was what we were going to have with an American FF but sadly are finding they vary massively with width height and depth and there are issues with doors opening. Have stories online of owners struggling to get new ones to fit. Is yours just a regular FF.?Are they all the same?

We have a freestanding american FF with cupboards built around and on top. The standard size (though you can get bigger/smaller ones than this) is about 1790X912/913). We recently replaced ours as it broke after 10 odd years and had no problem getting a replacement. We actually got the same brand but newer model. We didnt want an integrated appliance as we wanted the water/ice dispenser. We have a cupboard either side which we have no issues opening and a cupboard on top (there is a slight gap at the top which can only really be seen if the fridge doors are open and we were advised to have this for ventilation). The doors have some adjustment on them so when DH fitted the new one he just adjusted to open properly within the space its in

bloodredfeaturewall · 03/11/2024 09:36

if you box it in you need a lot of space at the back and possibly vents on top to allow air flow.

blackbadger · 03/11/2024 08:23

We have a boxed in American fridge freezer. Just replaced a 20 year old one, and found one that fits the gap. There were quite a few that would have fitted the gap - so this wasn't a concern of mine

Flump5 · 03/11/2024 07:11

Wish the original designer had pointed this out at the beginning.😫 Never done a kitchen refit before, won’t be hurrying to do one again. Sooo many things to think of.

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minipie · 03/11/2024 00:10

Ours is boxed in. Not integrated but cabinets either side and above it. I’m not too worried if we have to replace it as it’s a common size, 90cm wide.

The way our boxing in is done, the hole in the cabinets is quite a bit larger than the fridge and then there is a filler strip all the fridge to make it fit snugly. If a replacement was slightly larger we could take out the filler strip and cut it down a bit.

Out of interest are your cupboards ceiling height?It’s not the width that’s an issue but the height(and depth to some extent but aware it will stick out), both seem to vary a lot. We also need one that doesn’t need too big an opening circle. Good idea re the filler strip.

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