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To feel terrified by the idea of time going on forever

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Lavenderfarmcottage · 02/11/2024 15:23

I recently lost someone close to me and I feel that she’s in heaven or a better place. I find it incredibly difficult to believe she isn’t. However, ever since I was very young, the idea of heaven just going on and on and on with no end has terrified me and I have to stop thinking about it whenever it occurs to me, such is the uncomfortable gut feeling it gives me. I don’t know why this is but it just does. I feel also scared about the alternative that life just ends. Does anyone feel similarly and has anyone been able to soothe this fear with any sort of comforting ideas ?

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dafa · 02/11/2024 16:26

Waitingfordoggo · 02/11/2024 16:02

It’s interesting because I come at it from the opposite point of view (that there isn’t a heaven or an afterlife and so we just die and there is nothing and that’s it forever. It terrifies me) Sometimes the thought of it jolts me awake when I’m half asleep and makes my heart race.

But yes, the thought of time going on forever is also really unsettling. So I don’t think there is a happy solution for me 😂

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This is exactly how I feel.

ObtuseMoose · 02/11/2024 16:22

Mumof2namechange · 02/11/2024 16:12

And yes, I'm also very bewildered at the thought that my children didn't exist at all 5 years ago. Where were "they" then? Where were their thoughts and ideas, did they grow out of nothing?

It upsets and worries me, I try not to think about it.

They weren't anywhere, they didn't exist in any form so they had no thoughts or ideas.
Hopefully the same is true after we die, if there's an afterlife I'll be properly pissed off.

oakleaffy · 02/11/2024 16:20

Lavenderfarmcottage · 02/11/2024 15:45

Reminds me of the sort of Christian wisdom my Grandmother would have given, while pouring me tea and making me feel warm and safe. Appreciate.

I sometimes wonder if we have lived before ?
A very young child in our family ( English) was in the back seat of the family car

He started to become very anxious as we were driving in South Wales- I asked him what was wrong

He said “ I don’t like mountains ~ when I was little, a mountain fell on my school “

( He wasn’t attending school when he said it, as too young)

No internet then.

There was a Disaster ( Aberfan) - but that had happened decades before he was born.

It was very strange- He’s an adult now and can’t remember that journey.

Tomorrowisyesterday · 02/11/2024 16:19

I think heaven would exist outside of time and space, like God would have to, so it wouldn't be part of time at all.

ginasevern · 02/11/2024 16:18

In a similar vein, I get freaked out by the concept of infinity. That the universe has no end, ever. What was there before the galaxies? If it was just a void then that void must have been something. It's all too much!

Didimum · 02/11/2024 16:17

Personally, I don't believe in an afterlife and I'm not at all religious. I believe when you're dead, you cease to exist completely. I can understand why some people find that notion very sad and upsetting, but I find it more comforting than the idea of existence forever. I find the thought of 'knowing' you are dying upsetting and frightening but not the state of being dead – it's just like before birth, which was nothing. And for me, that's the way it should be – I don't see what meaning forever has. I find far more meaning in that people are only here for a finite time.

It's completely up to you what you want to believe, but I think you might find it helpful to start thinking about 'time' in a different way if you find the notion of endless time frightening. Time, as we know it at least, is a human concept, based on a linked series of events, the progression of past into the future. Human memory formation is really the only basis for the conception of time. It might be helpful to think of time as something that is not experienced in that way after life. You don't 'know' how it is experienced differently, but do you have to know? Can't it just be unknown? Or not knowable? If you believe in a plane above the existence of the living – which is quite fantastical – then I think it stands to reason that their can be some re-imagining of the concept of what you think of as time too. Otherwise it's just all very literal, isn't it.

Catza · 02/11/2024 16:16

I find it much more comforting to think that after death, the lights just go out and that is it. If you are of a religious disposition, it opens all sorts of terrifying thoughts. Like your loved one being stuck in limbo or somewhere other than "heaven".

Mumof2namechange · 02/11/2024 16:15

When I try and talk to dh about this stuff he is at a loss and just says "don't worry it'll be a long time before any of us dies" and reminds me to take my iron supplements.

He's right, of course. I wish I could just not worry about any of it, like he does

Itiswhysofew · 02/11/2024 16:14

We will be a different type of being in heaven. We won't be aware of such things, as heaven is where we're meant to be and it will be our norm - or something like that☺

Mumof2namechange · 02/11/2024 16:12

And yes, I'm also very bewildered at the thought that my children didn't exist at all 5 years ago. Where were "they" then? Where were their thoughts and ideas, did they grow out of nothing?

It upsets and worries me, I try not to think about it.

Mumof2namechange · 02/11/2024 16:10

Waitingfordoggo · 02/11/2024 16:02

It’s interesting because I come at it from the opposite point of view (that there isn’t a heaven or an afterlife and so we just die and there is nothing and that’s it forever. It terrifies me) Sometimes the thought of it jolts me awake when I’m half asleep and makes my heart race.

But yes, the thought of time going on forever is also really unsettling. So I don’t think there is a happy solution for me 😂

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Me too, it jolts me awake at night. I find it really unbearable.

After my dc1 was born I got a bit obsessed with death and this feeling that, what's the point of loving someone because you'll just die eventually. (Turned out I was very very anemic which was making me depressed - also was a bit traumatised by having had sepsis.)

But it still gives me shudders when I think about it, so I try not to.

For example, atm dc1 is learning how to read, phonics etc. This thought sometimes pops into my mind: why bother learning stuff and taking on new ideas if you're going to die anyway and those thoughts and ideas will just cease to exist?!

I suppress the thought whenever it appears but it's upsetting and I don't have the answer

oakleaffy · 02/11/2024 16:08

@Lavenderfarmcottage As a child ( 5 or 6) this used to really give me a strange feeling
“ space never ends”
As ti Heaven or some other plane of existence, it would be wonderful-
But we have been “ Unalive” before we were born.

I like to think my loved ones who are deceased ( Humans and animals) are waiting.

Even though it’s unscientific to think that way.

Notimefor · 02/11/2024 16:06

Lavenderfarmcottage · 02/11/2024 15:47

I believe this too.

Me too.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 02/11/2024 16:06

Waitingfordoggo · 02/11/2024 16:02

It’s interesting because I come at it from the opposite point of view (that there isn’t a heaven or an afterlife and so we just die and there is nothing and that’s it forever. It terrifies me) Sometimes the thought of it jolts me awake when I’m half asleep and makes my heart race.

But yes, the thought of time going on forever is also really unsettling. So I don’t think there is a happy solution for me 😂

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It's like the time before you were born - you won't have been aware of any of it .

Waitingfordoggo · 02/11/2024 16:02

It’s interesting because I come at it from the opposite point of view (that there isn’t a heaven or an afterlife and so we just die and there is nothing and that’s it forever. It terrifies me) Sometimes the thought of it jolts me awake when I’m half asleep and makes my heart race.

But yes, the thought of time going on forever is also really unsettling. So I don’t think there is a happy solution for me 😂

Aliciainwunderland · 02/11/2024 15:58

I actually threw an absolute tantrum aged about 4 when my mum was explaining heaven and that it just kept going and going … I can still remember it!

Refreshingpie · 02/11/2024 15:53

Lavenderfarmcottage · 02/11/2024 15:51

Thankyou, I really appreciate the responses. I’ve gained a lot of comfort. I think I’m going through the depressed phase of grief (a little bit, no need for serious concern) and so my mind is drifting to melancholy thoughts.

I won’t continue checking in as I’ve got the comfort I’ve come for & I should probably keep my spirits high X

❤️

BeachRide · 02/11/2024 15:52

KimberleyClark · 02/11/2024 15:35

I think that the point is that in heaven, if it exists, you are not aware of time in the same way.

This

Brananan · 02/11/2024 15:52

Refreshingpie · 02/11/2024 15:45

I like to believe that our time on earth is purely to have a human experience, a physical body and free will to make decisions good or bad and to experience human emotions. Sort of like a period of ‘education’ for the spirit I suppose much like a small part of human life is usually spent early on in some kind of school / education .

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I love this!

Lavenderfarmcottage · 02/11/2024 15:51

Thankyou, I really appreciate the responses. I’ve gained a lot of comfort. I think I’m going through the depressed phase of grief (a little bit, no need for serious concern) and so my mind is drifting to melancholy thoughts.

I won’t continue checking in as I’ve got the comfort I’ve come for & I should probably keep my spirits high X

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Doingtheboxerbeat · 02/11/2024 15:49

If you like light hearted American comedy, then The Good Place covers this exact topic. It's a bit of a piss take but it's the only way for us agnostics and atheists to understand what others believe.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 02/11/2024 15:47

Refreshingpie · 02/11/2024 15:45

I like to believe that our time on earth is purely to have a human experience, a physical body and free will to make decisions good or bad and to experience human emotions. Sort of like a period of ‘education’ for the spirit I suppose much like a small part of human life is usually spent early on in some kind of school / education .

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I believe this too.

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SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 02/11/2024 15:47

houseselling101 · 02/11/2024 15:37

I read a fiction book once - cant remember what it was called but heaven only existed until the last person who could remember you also passed away - I don't know if that's a comforting thought or not - that maybe if you are forgettable heaven doesn't last as long as someone who had great great great grandchildren who could remember them or who made a great impact on someone. But at least it meant heaven wasnt infinite

Interesting. Would that be The Brief History of the Dead by Kevin Brockmeier?

Refreshingpie · 02/11/2024 15:45

I like to believe that our time on earth is purely to have a human experience, a physical body and free will to make decisions good or bad and to experience human emotions. Sort of like a period of ‘education’ for the spirit I suppose much like a small part of human life is usually spent early on in some kind of school / education .

Lavenderfarmcottage · 02/11/2024 15:45

Allwillbewell2 · 02/11/2024 15:38

It's too big a concept for our brains to handle, just like death can terrify people as the brain can't handle the idea of it either. A priest once told me we can't put God in a box to make sense (which is what humans do) as it's all beyond our current comprehension - theirs comfort in that!

Reminds me of the sort of Christian wisdom my Grandmother would have given, while pouring me tea and making me feel warm and safe. Appreciate.

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