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To think that people overuse therapy as a solution for every problem?

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SnugOtter · 01/11/2024 20:35

It feels like therapy is recommended for every small issue - are we too quick to turn to it?

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SnugOtter · 01/11/2024 21:09

BeMintBee · 01/11/2024 21:04

Are you the same poster who started a deleted thread about mental health issues being over diagnosed earlier today?

No, I’m not that poster, and this thread isn’t about that topic. I’m discussing how therapy can sometimes be overused for minor issues rather than addressing them with other coping strategies.

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Craft3d · 01/11/2024 21:05

Timeofintrospection · 01/11/2024 21:04

I know but you did say that more people than ever are taking their lives and that therefore more therapy would be a positive thing, suggesting that you see it as something that at least helps.

It is worth remembering that it isn’t a cure, that in some cases it can make things worse.

I have no issue with counselling or therapy. I do have issues with it being pushed as a cure for mental health on people who can often barely afford it, I have issues with it being seen as something people ‘should’ have to deal with problems they probably could deal with effectively alone and with it being seen as something which cures and heals.

When can it make things worse?

Timeofintrospection · 01/11/2024 21:05

Craft3d · 01/11/2024 21:02

Therapy can help hugely with suicidal thoughts and managing emotions.

alterbehavioralhealth.com/blog/top-therapies-treat-suicidal-thoughts/

Can help. Not does help. A subtle but important difference.

Timeofintrospection · 01/11/2024 21:04

MrTiddlesTheCat · 01/11/2024 21:01

I didn't say it was a cure. But it certainly helps some people to climb out of that very dark place.

I know but you did say that more people than ever are taking their lives and that therefore more therapy would be a positive thing, suggesting that you see it as something that at least helps.

It is worth remembering that it isn’t a cure, that in some cases it can make things worse.

I have no issue with counselling or therapy. I do have issues with it being pushed as a cure for mental health on people who can often barely afford it, I have issues with it being seen as something people ‘should’ have to deal with problems they probably could deal with effectively alone and with it being seen as something which cures and heals.

BeMintBee · 01/11/2024 21:04

Are you the same poster who started a deleted thread about mental health issues being over diagnosed earlier today?

LadeOde · 01/11/2024 21:03

@SnugOtter Problem is Therapy e.g CBT is the gold standard for treating many MH problems currently. Its not that people don't think about all the other things you suggested, it's that they haven't worked.

Caffeineismydrug35 · 01/11/2024 21:02

SnugOtter · 01/11/2024 20:54

I definitely don’t advocate for numbing problems with unhealthy coping mechanisms. My point is more about exploring different ways to address life’s challenges that don’t immediately default to therapy. There are various approaches, like self-help books, peer support, or even lifestyle changes, that can help people develop resilience and better coping strategies. Ultimately, it’s about finding what works best for each person. Therapy is valuable for many, but it’s not the only option.

Do you not think most people try the self help books and other methods and then go onto therapy? Therapy is for many, an expensive, time consuming and painful experience, but it helps. I don’t think people do it lightly. We tried all of your suggestions before eventually paying for a therapist who pretty much saved my daughter’s life and saved our relationship. I think you’re being very naive OP.

sometimesmovingforwards · 01/11/2024 21:02

Maybe people lost the skills of resilience and mental fortitude.

theeyeofdoe · 01/11/2024 21:02

concernedpuzzled · 01/11/2024 20:44

Because being too introspective can sometimes (not always) make things worse.

Lots of people do over think tho ha which are not really an issue

Craft3d · 01/11/2024 21:02

Timeofintrospection · 01/11/2024 20:59

Therapy isn’t a ‘cure’ for suicide, though. People take their lives for all sorts of reasons.

Therapy can help hugely with suicidal thoughts and managing emotions.

alterbehavioralhealth.com/blog/top-therapies-treat-suicidal-thoughts/

MrTiddlesTheCat · 01/11/2024 21:01

Timeofintrospection · 01/11/2024 20:59

Therapy isn’t a ‘cure’ for suicide, though. People take their lives for all sorts of reasons.

I didn't say it was a cure. But it certainly helps some people to climb out of that very dark place.

SlugLettuce · 01/11/2024 21:00

Agree. My brother and his friends all love therapy and recommend it for any little thing. If I’m feeling stressed in work, talking to an expensive a stranger about my childhood is not likely to help. Grin

Timeofintrospection · 01/11/2024 20:59

MrTiddlesTheCat · 01/11/2024 20:47

You are being unreasonble. Seeing as the suicide rate in the UK is currently higher than it"s been since the 90s, clearly not enough people are using it, and we should be encouraging more to do so.

Therapy isn’t a ‘cure’ for suicide, though. People take their lives for all sorts of reasons.

Craft3d · 01/11/2024 20:58

SnugOtter · 01/11/2024 20:54

I definitely don’t advocate for numbing problems with unhealthy coping mechanisms. My point is more about exploring different ways to address life’s challenges that don’t immediately default to therapy. There are various approaches, like self-help books, peer support, or even lifestyle changes, that can help people develop resilience and better coping strategies. Ultimately, it’s about finding what works best for each person. Therapy is valuable for many, but it’s not the only option.

But default to therapy literally isn’t happening.

People with chronic mental health issues are not getting anything on the NHS and sadly private therapy is out of the question for the majority.

LadeOde · 01/11/2024 20:57

I haven't heard of anyone seeking therapy for any of the things you listed, you also wouldn't know how severe someone's mental health problems were. Even loved ones living closely many times haven't the faintest idea. I do agree though that the number of people needing MH Interventions seems to have exploded, almost every other person I know personally has some form of severe MH problem requiring therapy which I find quite strange.

Lyannaa · 01/11/2024 20:55

amIloud · 01/11/2024 20:50

How cruel of you to assume this? Therapy isn't cheap and neither is it easily accessible. Why are you judging people? A relative of mine killed themselves unable to get to the bottom of their mental health issues. The premise of your opening comment is disgraceful, disrespectful and downright dangerous. I hope those in therapy continue their journey, because they have the strength and confidence to seek out help.

Yes! Fully agree

MrTiddlesTheCat · 01/11/2024 20:55

I'm currently seeing a therapist because I had an accident earlier this that has left me permanent disabled, in pain, and in need of multiple further sugeries. If I didn't see her I'd probably have killd myself by now. I tell people like the OP who sneer at people like me that I see my therapist because I got attacked by a set of stairs. Why would I share the truth with someone so obviously lacking in empathy?

SnugOtter · 01/11/2024 20:54

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 01/11/2024 20:49

What do you propose they do instead?

Numb their problems with alcohol, over-eating and TV?

I definitely don’t advocate for numbing problems with unhealthy coping mechanisms. My point is more about exploring different ways to address life’s challenges that don’t immediately default to therapy. There are various approaches, like self-help books, peer support, or even lifestyle changes, that can help people develop resilience and better coping strategies. Ultimately, it’s about finding what works best for each person. Therapy is valuable for many, but it’s not the only option.

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Doireallywanttodothis · 01/11/2024 20:54

I'm a therapist. My clients are functional enough to hold down jobs so that they can afford me (apart from the charity clients I also see voluntarily) but have deep seated issues that they're masking in their day to day life or are turning up in other unhelpful behaviours. They are definitely not the worried well. Generally they want to do the work in the minimum of sessions (and outside it - because we can help you with tools but 50 minutes a week (or biweekly - cost) is not going to 'fix' you, as if that is even a thing) as they, and I, are very well aware of the financial cost to them. Ideally they'd be with me long term to really work through where the issues they want to change (because that is why the majority of people seek help) came from, but sadly most cannot afford that. And I'm reasonably priced in a pretty affluent area.

amIloud · 01/11/2024 20:50

How cruel of you to assume this? Therapy isn't cheap and neither is it easily accessible. Why are you judging people? A relative of mine killed themselves unable to get to the bottom of their mental health issues. The premise of your opening comment is disgraceful, disrespectful and downright dangerous. I hope those in therapy continue their journey, because they have the strength and confidence to seek out help.

Lyannaa · 01/11/2024 20:50

YABU. Who are you to judge what problems require therapy?

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 01/11/2024 20:49

What do you propose they do instead?

Numb their problems with alcohol, over-eating and TV?

Calmnessandchaos · 01/11/2024 20:49

I do understand what you're saying, but sometimes, if small things happen and you ignore them, things just get bigger, and not manageable.
It's like the stress bucket theory: you can keep chucking things in, but sooner or later, it will spill over. And it can be the smallest thing that causes the breakdown.

I wouldn't say therapy, necessarily, but talking to someone, even a helpline, can help. I work in a mental health role (non therapy) and people don't talk about their issues enough.

Just because MN suggests therapy a lot, it doesn't mean everyone is getting therapy off MN.

RhinestoneCowgirl · 01/11/2024 20:48

I'm seeing a therapist at the moment. Two months ago my teen daughter tried to kill herself and is now not in school. I'm finding navigating getting her support quite difficult (there is none). Hope that meets your threshold?

KidneyWarrior · 01/11/2024 20:48

But you have no idea why people are in therapy - you're just speculating on what you think you know about them?

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