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Too be really fucking angry with people who just let abuse happen- Sara Sharif

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dinomirror · 01/11/2024 20:01

Reading it now its horrific. People saying we heard screams- and yet did nothing??? How does a person just think that no im not going to report this, most likely because they cant be bothered/ dont want to be involved. Scum of the earth the dad is. The stepmother ( and her sister!) going on and on about how they feel bad etc and dont do anything!

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mrshoho · 02/11/2024 13:19

Surely the older brother should be called to the the trial as a witness who was living in the home. In previous cases children have given evidence remotely and with anonymity.

HaveYouSeenRain · 02/11/2024 13:16

username7891 · 02/11/2024 13:15

Thanks. I thought it might be that. It was all premeditated if they were buying tape in bulk.

Sick fucks.

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It’s all so horrific. I live in the area (not super close, a few miles away) and wish someone had helped the little girl 😢

username7891 · 02/11/2024 13:15

HaveYouSeenRain · 02/11/2024 13:13

The court heard Sara's 30-year-old stepmother Beinash Batool bought 12 rolls of parcel tape in July 2023, just nine days after buying six rolls from Amazon.
Jurors were told that the tape was used to construct the 'home-made hoods'.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13961633/Sara-Sharif-forced-wear-hijab-conceal-injuries-court-hears.html

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Thanks. I thought it might be that. It was all premeditated if they were buying tape in bulk.

Sick fucks.

HaveYouSeenRain · 02/11/2024 13:13

username7891 · 02/11/2024 13:09

What tape?

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The court heard Sara's 30-year-old stepmother Beinash Batool bought 12 rolls of parcel tape in July 2023, just nine days after buying six rolls from Amazon.
Jurors were told that the tape was used to construct the 'home-made hoods'.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13961633/Sara-Sharif-forced-wear-hijab-conceal-injuries-court-hears.html

HaveYouSeenRain · 02/11/2024 13:12

Peonies007 · 02/11/2024 00:27

I live a few streets away from where it happened and for interest of disclosure also say we home educate (lots of SEN) and that my child was abused at school. My kids are 'seen' with Cubs, swimming, art etc. We are already 'registered'.

Be careful what you wish for re home ed welfare etc.
Do we want world where every child under school age and every child during summer holidays is subject to random SS checks, because of possibility of abuse?
They don't have resources of course, but those that are proposing those, do you think it's correct? Will they have special training, as my SEN child is literal and will say things like 'I don't have any clothes', when his wardrobe is full but his favourite clothes is in wash
I mean Sara was at school for almost 2, possibly 4 years, where she was abused and some of it was spotted, but services closed referral.
It's also hard to judge situation as a neighbour. My eldest is autistic and used to have rages about everything until he was 9. My neighbours, bless them, know my son has SEN but at times it sounded like he was being murdered.
Ultimately, the abuser is always able to hide the abuse, you can't 100% eliminate every child killing, it's just not possible.
Poor Sara.

But Sara didn’t have SEN! You are comparing your situation with hers when she was probably home schooled because the parents were trying to hide her abuse. IMO home schooling without SEN reasons or serious illness should never be allowed.

LeafcutterAnt · 02/11/2024 13:11

Peonies007 · 02/11/2024 12:59

Also those that were of school age were all attending school. Apart from one, all were known to Social Services.

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Two were in lockdown

username7891 · 02/11/2024 13:09

HaveYouSeenRain · 02/11/2024 13:04

The girl had bitemarks that don’t match the father or uncle so I assume the stepmother was also violent. Wasnt she the one that ordered the tape from amazon?

What tape?

HaveYouSeenRain · 02/11/2024 13:06

fashionqueen0123 · 01/11/2024 22:38

Where is the brother then - is he still in Pakistan too?!

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Last I read (very old news) was that Surrey County Council asked for all children to be returned but Pakistan was not collaborating. Maybe they have been returned since, but it won’t make the news to protect their privacy.

HaveYouSeenRain · 02/11/2024 13:04

The girl had bitemarks that don’t match the father or uncle so I assume the stepmother was also violent. Wasnt she the one that ordered the tape from amazon?

Peonies007 · 02/11/2024 12:59

LeafcutterAnt · 02/11/2024 12:20

So many high profile similar cases it has been the step parent that has been the main perpetrator.

Baby Peter
Sebastian Kalinowski
Logan Mwangi
Arthur Labingo Hughes
Star Hobson
Daniel Pelka

When it's the actual parent like this one seems to be, you're surprised!

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Also those that were of school age were all attending school. Apart from one, all were known to Social Services.

Diorchristian · 02/11/2024 12:49

Yes in those cases but the parent was also violent

LeafcutterAnt · 02/11/2024 12:31

Diorchristian · 02/11/2024 12:25

@LeafcutterAnt in each one the parent also abused the child.
Unfortunately there is another case in the news right now where a boy friend killed a child not his own.
We also don't know the extent of step mums involvement.

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The step parent was the most violent abusive one though and most of them would have lived if the parent had remained solo or met someone who wasn't abusive.

TheSnugHare · 02/11/2024 12:29

MaybeItsBecauseImALodoner · 02/11/2024 11:35

I hate this epidemic of black and Asian people calling white people racist and making them feel uncomfortable and like they’re walking on egg shells in their own home land

@TheSnugHare
What the fuck are you going on about, you sound ridiculous!!
A little girl has died in horrific circumstances, stop using as an excuse to spout racist crap!

What is your definition of racism, because it certainly isn’t the actual definition

LongLongLiveLove · 02/11/2024 12:28

Diorchristian · 02/11/2024 12:25

@LeafcutterAnt in each one the parent also abused the child.
Unfortunately there is another case in the news right now where a boy friend killed a child not his own.
We also don't know the extent of step mums involvement.

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Exactly, the same as in this case. The parent was the one who dealt the actual death blows, but until then I would say both parents guilty. I maintain it should be an offense for a partner of an abuser to be allowed to let her children remain in that situation. The parents who let it happen have blood on their hands.

Diorchristian · 02/11/2024 12:25

@LeafcutterAnt in each one the parent also abused the child.
Unfortunately there is another case in the news right now where a boy friend killed a child not his own.
We also don't know the extent of step mums involvement.

LeafcutterAnt · 02/11/2024 12:20

So many high profile similar cases it has been the step parent that has been the main perpetrator.

Baby Peter
Sebastian Kalinowski
Logan Mwangi
Arthur Labingo Hughes
Star Hobson
Daniel Pelka

When it's the actual parent like this one seems to be, you're surprised!

LongLongLiveLove · 02/11/2024 11:45

Battered woman syndrome, culture and patriarchy are just excuses . Things abusers hide behind to excuse their abuse. Abusers abuse because they are abusers. Not because of their culture or tragic circumstances .

MaybeItsBecauseImALodoner · 02/11/2024 11:35

I hate this epidemic of black and Asian people calling white people racist and making them feel uncomfortable and like they’re walking on egg shells in their own home land

@TheSnugHare
What the fuck are you going on about, you sound ridiculous!!
A little girl has died in horrific circumstances, stop using as an excuse to spout racist crap!

LongLongLiveLove · 02/11/2024 11:21

fedup33 · 02/11/2024 11:15

What a load of nonsense, Have some dignity.

It doesn't matter what colour that poor kid was. How you can sit in a house and listen to that and do nothing.

Its not human. A dog would have shown more empathy.

Quite right. I don't care about someone's culture, if it slows them to abuse someone it's not worth defending. That said, abusers will abuse. Some of them will hide behind culture and religion to do so. I feel for the majority of Muslims who are decent people who don't abuse their kids.

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 02/11/2024 11:18

TheSnugHare · 01/11/2024 21:32

I see a number of my comments have been reported and removed because people think I am being racist for saying that violence is ingrained in other cultures and religions. Even the OP agreed with me.
this is why people are afraid to speak out.
we have our answer, and it is the same reason why this girl wasn't saved before she was killed.
I’m not here to be abused, I am a highly sensitive person. I am out

Flounce didn't last long.

fedup33 · 02/11/2024 11:15

What a load of nonsense, Have some dignity.

It doesn't matter what colour that poor kid was. How you can sit in a house and listen to that and do nothing.

Its not human. A dog would have shown more empathy.

TheSnugHare · 02/11/2024 11:06

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I didn’t do a flounce earlier. I went to do something else and went to bed? It was the middle of the night. Stop harassing me following me around the thread and slandering me, you are part of the group that try and intimidate white people by calling the racist for no reason.

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