Too be really fucking angry with people who just let abuse happen- Sara Sharif

Arthur was at school initially but then lockdown hit. Poor boy and poor Sara 😢💔

3 bedrooms so I assume some of the kids or the uncle downstairs? Certainly very crowded

I am sure that Arthur had the opportunity to go to school and they made up an excuse.

It beggars belief where did they all sleep?

Dad, mum and uncle
Sara and her older brother (from first wife)
4 younger kids

6 children, and 3 adults?

Maybe the brother also worked and paid rent?

I have no idea on how could they fit them all in. 3rd bedroom would be study size too. It's very middle class area of Woking, but that street leads to ex-council houses. He was a taxi driver, she didn't work. That house would cost around 1700-2000pcm to rent and or at least 550k to buy. I don't know how they could afford either, maybe HA place?

Looks like there were bunk beds in 2 rooms. Yeah, I imagine toys weren't high on the list of priorities.

Chilling watching the footage of the Police going upstairs.

I wondered about this. 6 kids in one bedroom? Or some sleep in living room?

Maybe they didn’t have many toys 😢

I wonder if the dad kicked off if things weren't pristine.

Totally. We had three under 5s and it was total chaos possessions wise. Toy kitchen, work benches, duplo, garden toys, books, wooden toys, musival toys. Toys and more toys everywhere. Never ending tidy up.
They (Sara and siblings) couldn't have them in their rooms as only 3 bed house and 5 (6?) kids plus Uncle, so no space.

Anyone find it weird how sterile and clean their home looks?

We have 3 children aged 10 months - 4 years

On any given day there's toys lying around and you just see in every single room that children live there.

Even if we tidy up in the evening, it will look like total chaos the next day.

I can't comprehend how someone can abuse to death or be complicit in such abuse of their own child. Are their brains wired differently or how does it get to such a stage? The inherent instant to protect your own is ingrained inside of us.

Someone listed names of murdered children upthread and it's so sad to see all those little people's names listed like that.

They should not be household names.

There will always be abusers and there will always be the need to safeguard the vulnerable from abuse. The deaths of each of these children present complexities in their own way but the root of the problem is and always will be the sick, sick bastards who abuse and murder children.

I'm sorry it happened to you. Most parents are not like that.

No, you are misunderstanding and confusing two things together.
I'm not arguing for less SS involvement. I'm trying to make a point that home education is not the reason Sara and kids got abused.

Picture from Children's commissioner report

Might have cut down on my non-accidental injuries had I been in Nursery and pre-school, my brothers' too. Same with summer holidays. Less time for her to train all of us not to say anything to anybody who asked as well, as we were well trained by five to say 'fell over' or 'ran into a wall' instead of 'pushed over, kicked and chased with a knife'.

Is this an official statistic or did you make this up? I don’t know why you are arguing for LESS social services involvement on a thread about a tortured and murdered child. Read the room

As far as I know Star and Arthur were murdered in lockdown.
Star wouldn't have been picked up by a school staff as too young. Both were already known to SS who did nothing.
It's the same theme again. It could be summer holidays like with Sara. The whole safeguarding should be probably reformed.

70-80% of home ed kids have SEN and most have been failed by a school first.
What about the preschool kids? Should they also be in the nursery from x months so they can be 'seen' everyday? Or kids at school during summer holiday?
Very clearly there should be red flashes all over her situation where school saw abuse and SS didn't see it as a problem. But that's a separate issue.

@mrshoho unfortunately it seems the 5 remaining children are in Pakistan.

I still find it so odd that the house looks spotless with all those children in it and yet weapons with dna where left out?
I didn't see a single toy or item left out in the house.

Late diagnosis happens, home education isn't the problem in this case.

I know, it's devastating. I can't understand how anyone could hurt a child or listen to a child getting hurt and do nothing. This went on for years and no one helped her. I hope they're all locked up for life.

The court heard Sara's 30-year-old stepmother Beinash Batool bought 12 rolls of parcel tape in July 2023, just nine days after buying six rolls from Amazon.
Jurors were told that the tape was used to construct the 'home-made hoods'.

This isn't Stockholm syndrome this is psychopathy.

The step mother is likely the husbands cousin as is her sister, the aunt.

We have enough psychopaths, I am sorry for the children, they did not ask to be born, they are unfortunately lost causes and that family has cost us enough socially and financially, leave them be Pakistans problem.