Too be really fucking angry with people who just let abuse happen- Sara Sharif

The older brother was ruled out. I don't think under 5s would have bite strong enough?

Omg I didn't even think of that, I assumed it was likely her which is why she refused. But there could be another reason she refused and that is covering up for someone else.

It's a bit like calling for ambulance threads or going to a and e though.

People think if they call 999 an ambulance will immediately come even if their issue isn't quite as bad as a heart attack.

999 will triage you, so will a and e so why not go or call and let the professionals triage it.

Same with this sort of thing I mean poor Arthur, his grandma was worried sick about him and reported her own son to ss and still they had the wool pulled over thier eyes...

Exactly. And tons of replies saying “Mind your own business / Don’t get involved / Probably a parent having a tough day / Don’t judge / Snitches get stitches’.

It’s shameless.

@HaveYouSeenRain of course but grandad can afford top private schools for grandchild, flying back business class, he looks like he's speaking from a large house in Pakistan, the article mentions a gated property.

10 houses doesn’t mean the family owns them, could be extended family houses. They were hiding somewhere, and probably with family members.

sounds like the children were removed and are in a Pakistani children’s home. Poor children, I am sure they are all traumatised for life.

@Peonies007 the house in Pakistan

What culture...abuse, keeping nose out, are you deluded?

I have checked and the house hasn't sold since records before records started to be shown online. So they rented.

I also wonder if they were removed to do abuse there.
A polish uncle posted a pic and on that pic when she's much younger you can see bruises.

Looking at some of older people articles on this it looks like Grandad in Pakistan has money.
He wants custody of the children, he said 2 girls have sen and the oldest boy is a talented cricketer he wants to put into a good private school.
I wonder if this is where the money has come from??

Apparently 10 houses were raided there in connection to the disappearance.

Yes she refused

That little girl's face. The sadness, the desperation. How she was failed.

Is she the one that has refused dental impressions?

I hope to high heaven that they didn't make a sibling bite her.

I hope that all children will be returned to the UK and placed with foster parents/adoptive parents.

The stepmum is unlikely to have as lengthy of a prison sentence as the father.

She should have no chance of "mothering" these children again.

From December, don’t know what happened since.

Reporting restrictions continue to apply to almost every detail of what has taken place in the family court proceedings in the high court in London involving the surviving children. But following a joint application by the Observer, the BBC and the Press Association, it can now be reported that Surrey county council has applied to a high court in Lahore, Pakistan to seek the return of the five siblings.
The court case in Lahore continues in parallel with the ongoing wardship proceedings in this country.

The only logical reason for the stepmum not providing dental impressions is that she knows the bite marks are hers.
The father is protecting her because I assume he wants his other kids to have their mum look after them.

I was surprised about this as well. Surely the children should be in the U.K, this is their home. The brother as well - I may be wrong but I thought Sara’s Mum was in the UK? I wonder why he hasn’t been placed with her?

As a child I grew up surrounded by domestic violence. My mother and her boyfriend would have incredibly violent fights, there were suicide attempts, I'd come out of my room to find blood spattered in the bathroom sink. I'd be on my way home from school and I could hear them going at it several houses away. There's no way the neighbours didn't hear, we had family friends talk to my brother and I about it, plenty of adults knew what was going on and yet my brother and I were the only ones to ever call the police when necessary. I even tried talking to teachers and my school counsellor about it and nothing was done, ever.

I was not subjected to what this poor baby went through, but my point is many adults outside of the home knew what my home life was like and no one ever helped me, no one asked if I was ok. It went on for 10+ years, I'm in my 30s now and still bitter about how many adults failed me when all they had to do was ask me if I was ok.

It's a shame that Pakistan won't send the siblings back to the UK.

I think this is one of the cases where being placed with family isn't always the best idea.

The floorplan of similar house in the same road.
Bedroom 1 - 4m x 3.6m
Bedroom 2 - 3m x 3m
Bedroom 3 - 3.1m x 2.1m
One living room downstairs.

Our house is bigger, with 4 beds and only 3 kids and we feel squeezed. Plus not much bulky toddler toys.

In such a small house, with all the chatter and talk of small children he missed prolonged abuse?
Anyway I'm sure I read his dna was on a weapon, could be wrong but if I was his solicitor it's what I would be telling him as well.

Say you didn't know.

@HaveYouSeenRain

Arthur was due back at school on 8th June and they made excuses as to why he couldn't go.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14012163/sara-sharif-uncle-unaware-abuse.html

Malik claims that although he lived at Hammond Road, while working at McDonald’s and attending Portsmouth University as a student, he was not aware Sara was being abused.

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He studied at Uni is my understanding