Too be really fucking angry with people who just let abuse happen- Sara Sharif

Where I'm from (Germany) homeschooling is illegal. If kids are kept at home for homeschooling, the police will come and escort them to school.

You might think that's extreme, but the advantage is that children can't "vanish" in the same way Sara did.

Are you for real? Your posts on this thread reek of racism. I've just reported one and I see that others have already been deleted.

Having an unrelated male increases the risk of abuse exponentially also. So it is more common when it is a step father. However, it is not the presence of the step parent in the home necessarily, it might be that the original partner was an abuser and that’s why the relationship between biological parents broke down etc etc. It may be that the step parent is less likely to report as it’s not their biological child, but it’s not a matter of the step parent being the abuser. Statistically it is always far more likely to be the man, whether they are the biological parent, step parent, or partner, so this is another layer. Obviously some women do abuse but it is much more
commonly men.

Oh I don't throw the term around lightly, I only use it when someone is actually racist.

I didn't report your earlier posts for racism, but others obviously did and MNHQ obviously agreed, because the posts were deleted.

Hopefully MNHQ will ban you if you keep doing it. I really can't be arsed with racists any more.

Ive read about that stat and it’s from America in the 80s and has been debunked so I’m surprised it’s still being touted on courses. The stepmum is awful here but she knew it was wrong and tried in a half hearted way to raise the alarm. The dad was the evil psychopath but we’re saying the woman is to blame?

Do you think the neighbours knew she was being abused? I've not read the latest news - but I know that neighbours of ours could 'hear screams' fairly often. Kids playing together and screaming. Or baby screaming because she doesn't want to get dressed. They honestly do scream quite a lot - and if its a really bad day they might hear one of us shouting as well (shouting at them to stop screaming!)
I suppose I'm saying, do you think you would know if you were hearing screams of someone being really hurt or just tantrum screams or play screams?

Good on you for doing so, do you think that numerous reports for the same child made a difference?

@JaniceBattersby good point.

Do they understand their rights? Should we teach the un charter of human rights of the child to children? Teaching them that unequivocally these are their rights but unfortunately I think the ingrained culture etc is too much.

This abuse had gone on for years and years and the sister was told. Why on earth didn't she make an anonymous call to the ss or ask school? She could have done so from a position of safety.

What planet was she on. What background do either sister have to accept this? Saying she's literally dying because of what he's doing to sara??

Exposing her children to this? Did the sister think of her nieces and nephews?

Oh for fuck sake. Can you stop throwing the racism term around. What do you call it when someone is determined to continue ignoring important issues about certain cultures and religious even though they cause violent deaths

Isn’t done in our culture anymore??? Children are abused regardless of their culture and plenty of white British children are beaten by white British parents.

Reporting may happen less where people are concerned they will be viewed as racist/xenophobic but abuse happens across all cultures including white British.

Crime stats show that those who attach to a Step parent, cuse a gigantic safeguarding
problem for children.

Maybe non-abusive parent don't get involved with step parents, or are better at safeguarding their children?

Maybe step parents are more likely to be abusers (non-abusers may be more likely to decline a date if someone has a family) or attracted to abusers?

I don't know those particular details, only that a step parent in family puts abuse stats up 100 times.

Reported child abuse this week. A lot of people suspected it but it was only when we all compared notes we realised it was not our imagination and then something happened that confirmed it. Luckily the police were already involved.

White British family. I can't say much as the person involved has been arrested and charged. There are circumstances that make the situation unusual which I also can't discuss.

It happens. I think a lot of the time people really don't want to think how terrible things could be, or are scared of retaliation.

It happens in all cultures, and all socioeconomic groups.

What about their mother? I think I read she is polish

I have two daughters and I cannot begin to imagine how anyone would let THIER OWN CHILDREN be abused in this way. I would walk through fire for mine. It goes against our instincts? Must be such a complex mix of culture and a poor upbringing maybe fear that makes parents do or allow this

Almost twice as many women in the White ethnic group experienced domestic abuse in the last year (6.0%) compared with Black or Black British women (3.1%) and Asian or Asian British women (3.0%).

This is from the ONS, so I'm not sure how true your statement is.

The thing with the extended family knowing and doing nothing, and the neighbour is awful.

But - I saw a post on a group this week. Someone witnessed abuse, called police. Said they’d send someone. Then they received a message saying social services need to to deal with child abuse not them. SS visit. Parents deny any abuse. They close case.
The poster was then like what do I do next?’ She’s going to contact the school but was worried the child could be harmed while it’s half term. No one she contacted has helped.

What are you talking about? I remember seeing all the ads when the world Cup was on because there is an increase in violence around that time. To me it was mind boggling that football could cause so much violence at home but it seems it does happen here.

I’m not sure what word to use but I don’t think that passage was meant to be taken literally, and violence isn’t something done in our culture anymore

Could you stop talking racist shit, please?

I am muslim too and nobody has ever hit me. It absolutely is not normal to hit a female, let alone to the extent to cause such injuries.

Still in Pakistan with relatives. Tricky situation, if both parents are found guilty who will take them on, preferably not the sister who told Sarah’s stepmother to listen to the qu’ran rather than to a child being abused.

I didn’t say that British people don’t use violence. But it isn’t part of British culture. British people don’t use violence for the same reasons. Other cultures and religions have violence ingrained into their cultures and religions. British people will use violence if they are under the influence of drugs or mental health issues, or if it was due to poverty. Not everyone that has taken drugs, has mental health issues, or are poor, will be violent or kill someone however it effects people differently

Ah, so you haven't read the Bible's scriptures on disciplining children.
Proverbs 23 vs 13-14...

Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. [14] Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Wow its people like you that give our religion a bad name. I am also Muslim, also grew up in a household with Pakistani parents. I am married to a Muslim, have 4 kids and violence or abuse is absolutely not normal in our culture/religion. My parents never hit me and we have never hit our kids so please don't make this about religion/culture. It's fucked up people that do fucked up things to kids, not just in our religion but people all over the world.

This reminds me of David and Aimee Challenor story. The father was torturing a young girl in the attic of a small mid terrace house and nobody else heard anything apparently!