Too be really fucking angry with people who just let abuse happen- Sara Sharif

@RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames what is there to discuss though? He's admitted to killing her?

Yes but people are more interested in the step mum and aunt. They are both culpable obviously, but again it is the women being talked about and not the man who actually did it.

I'm not. The op knew what they were doing I reckon.

Re home school yes obviously this is when things got even worse form sara but many texts about her being badly beaten happened when she was still at school.

you’re post makes me so cross. You deliberately misinterpreted everything I said.

1. of course schools try to tackle online porn etc. we are constantly talking about it in PSHE. Schools are banned in lessons and in between lessons. The vast majority of schools (like mine) have banned them altogether and increasing numbers of schools insist children hand in their phones when they arrive at school. However loads get around this through various methods and how on earth is online porn teacher’s fault? The vast vast majority of issues children have online happen outside school, at home, when their parents are not supervising what their children are doing.
2. well duh of course if a child tells us to fuck off they get in trouble. Again and again. After school detention? They don’t turn up. Parents don’t enforce. Half the time parents tell us it’s our fault.
3. can’t retain decent teachers. Well maybe because people like you always say how crap teachers are and blame us for society’s ills and also expect us to solve everything that people leave.

I'm shocked at how this thread has panned out.

I would like to say that sexual and physical abuse spans ALL cultures and religions.

The common denominator that spans across ALL this is men.

This!! Many women from these backgrounds don't report crimes against them due to fear of stigma or repercussions. If they get away, they're just thankful for a fresh start and leave the past behind them without ensuring the perpetrators have paid the price of their actions.

As for child abuse- it goes unreported so often. As a society, we are conditioned to mind our own business and don't seem to want to get involved. When people try to, it's thankless!

@lemondropsandchimneytops they are referring to the extreme cleanliness of the house and how spartan it was as well.

To be honest I think it is part of other religions to use violence but it is interpreted differently to the many number of people that follow the religion and they don’t all choose to do it. They may follow other parts of the religion and not others

Yes exactly, a male non biological partner. Not a step parent. Men unfortunately do lots of awful things to other men, women and children. Men need better support to address toxic masculinity mental health issues and a variety of other problems. Men. Not step parents.

@Chowtime maybe but I struggle with 2?
It seems very weird to me

It's a side issue but I think she was taking out of school because they couldn't hide the signs of their abuse anymore, not even by covering her up. Questions were being asked and they knew that was likely to continue. Not to say that she wasn't also the house slave.

Not all people from the same religion/ethnicity/culture has the same beliefs, or will use violence or rape.
some will, including in our own culture and ethnicity.
you can’t decide that someone isn’t entitled to benefits because they come from a certain religion or ethnic group and make assumptions about what they believe in.

If a British person is violent towards their children it’s usually …. because they are abusive

No shit sherlock. Of course people who beat their children to death do it because they are abusive. What an inane comment.

Do you think it is an integral part of Muslim culture to put your child in a home-made hood and beat them to death? Because it really really isn’t.

I expect Sara was the house slave and that is why she was taken out of school.

I don't suppose the men did that cleaning. Or the stepmum who had 4 under 5's.

Ignore the pigeon. This is an important discussion to have and it would be a shame to be derailed by it.

Who are “they”? Immigrants generally? Muslim immigrants? Your neighbours?

This is a current case also on trial, a non-biological "care giver" and the child's mother both on trial for the death of this poor little girl.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-wheeled-body-toddler-around-34004814?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Like moths to a flame the racists come. Well done OP. You knew your bigoted opening posts would attract this sort of vileness I bet.

@FfsBrian thanks for that link.

andjustlikethat1

I do not want a return to the death penalty in the UK.

Unfortunately the more people like you are pushed to the margins and not debated the more you will dig your heels in.

Oh dear, where is mhhq.

Appropriate username.

And just like that, another racist pops up - like toadstools around cowpats.

They aren’t the only disgrace