Too be really fucking angry with people who just let abuse happen- Sara Sharif

I think part of the problem is people being scared of reprocussions for reporting.
Part is lack of knowledge of where to report to.
Part is a bad public view of the care system and viewing a bad home life with parents as generally still better than being in the system, and part is feeling they shouldn't judge "cultural differences" in family life or they're bigoted/racist.

Its very complex to fix, but hopefully the more media attention cases like this get the more it will make people think of the risks in future.

Adults who don't like to uphold the fragile ego of an immature bully.

Some may even finger salute behind the screen too 😆

Where is the brother then - is he still in Pakistan too?!

There's a very mundane reason for discussing the step-mother and her sisters behaviour - it's that the examination of their texts has been the most recently presented evidence

Who is ‘most of us’ and ‘we all’??

The DfE don't allow a student's results to be discounted from progress measures if they attend the school prior to Spring Census Day. They only allow them to be discounted if they

a) Join a school after Spring Census. The results will be included in the previous school's progress measures, so there is no benefit to doing this - and not entering them also shows up as negative progress.
b) Join a school after having been permanently excluded twice before joining them. One of the previous schools will have the results included in their measures.
c) Join the school prior to Spring Census Day AND are new to the country AND they are evidenced as coming from a country where it has not already been blanket banned from having results discounted because English is a common language - which means, due to the influence of the British Empire, the vast majority of countries that children tend to come to the UK from are ones where they cannot be excluded.
d) Are in youth custody, fully evidenced.
e) Are fully evidenced as being life threateningly or terminally ill and even then, not in all cases.

The school has to provide this information over the course of a week in July in the form of no more than six pdf pages in a fairly lengthy and convoluted process for each child, there is no right of appeal and it's largely dependent upon whether the person at the DfE (who have just taken over the operation from a private contractor) are able to handle the requests correctly. The results so far have not been promising.

They also cannot avoid the negative progress scores by excluding/putting the child into alternative provison/a PRU because they do not have progress measures - the results or lack of are still attached to the school.

The only time when it's vaguely non-detrimental to a school to encourage/cheat/break the Law is if the child did not sit KS2 SATs. However, as there are no formal progress measures for this year or next due to Covid, there's nothing to be gained from certain academy chains behaving like this at all.

Oh, and a school suddenly having a spike in permanent exclusions, managed moves and EHE in Y11 will attract the attention of both the LA and Ofsted, as illegal offrolling is an instant Inadequate. Which, combined with everything else makes actually PEXing somebody in Y11 extremely challenging, even if whatever they did was absolutely PEX-worthy. The only one I know of that stuck involved an extremely large knife and a somewhat traumatised member of staff - and yes, they did have SEND, yes, their attainment wasn't going to be great, but that was not something the school could say 'oh well, no biggie, see you Monday'.

I'm posting this information not as a criticism of you, but it somewhat counters the statements that some of the parents make.

From what I remember they found pipe she had been hit with, a cricket bat and hoods.

@Lettherebejustice the bat, belts, head masks, all sorts? It's so strange!

They left the body. So who knows.

@Chowtime because women will always get the blame

The post I replied to did - "I expect Sara was the house slave and that is why she was taken out of school."

What weapons were found? I'm not too familiar with all the details of the case but that was just my initial thought.

I've already explained what I consider to be racist about your posts. I'm not going to keep arguing the toss with you about it here. If you're really interested in understanding, you will take some time to reflect on what you said in the posts that were deleted and on what others have said to you on this thread, but I'm not convinced that you really want to know. Hint: dressing things up as being about religion and culture doesn't let you off the hook when it's very clear where you're coming from. Thinly veiled racism is still racism.

And no, it is not a form of abuse to state that racist comments are racist. I accept that it might not be very nice to hear, but we need to call it out when we see it in order to stamp it out. If it makes you think more carefully about what you say in future, then that's a good thing.

And no, calling people out for saying racist things is not what leads to deaths like this. If people fail to report genuine concerns for fear of being called racist, I suspect that it because they are fundamentally racist. People who are not racist do not think in those terms.

Thats a really good point. No one has said hardly anything about the behaviour of the men but then nothing has been reported about the texts they have been sending - why is that? Why was only the womans behaviour reported on.

Did anyone else think the father looked like an annoyed and petulant sulky fucking teenager in that video message that him and the stepmother made in Pakistan?

You forget most of us attended school and our children did also. We all know abuser teachers who spoke like you did previously in my opinion, in an immature condescending way. We all experienced abusive teachers who were never stopped.

@Haveyouanyjam but left weapons?

This is what I assumed. They planned their exit, they cleaned up and packed everything up.

You could discuss the epidemic of male violence towards females?

Or the bystander effect.

Or the "mind your own business culture ".

Or that safeguarding is everyone's business.

Or how to encourage, support and educate women from minority communities to seek support/report crimes against them/children.

And many, many other things.

Perhaps the house was cleaned so thoroughly to hide other evidence of her abuse?

@Startinganew32 I did mention it

This is ridiculous. Many more parents/family members abuse children than teachers

@lemondropsandchimneytops yes of course m the original post was saying how odd it was the house was so clean, then that person replied. No one said that's why she was taken out

Well if SOME teachers didn't teach children odd Sex and relationship lessons, abuse disabled children and demand that only they teach/ban non state education, there wouldn't be an issue.

You could discuss the epidemic of male violence towards females?

I know, but I think their primary reason for taking her out of school was more devious than just wanting her to clean the house.