To be annoyed with ladies clothing sizes?!

Huh? I have never seen it as 'reflection' are women able to leave the house without finding ways to complicate things so they can feel judged about everything?

In order two sizes. Try the larger size first then you can see if you need to try on the smaller one.

I have lost count on the number of times I have ordered one size and it’s not right and the size I needed has sold out.

Though some retailers are a pain to refunds on.

So buy the ones that do fit.

Just because the label says a number that you don't find acceptable, you are the same size as you were before you tried the jeans on.

I weigh myself daily

Ultimately this is the issue and why you feel so strongly about this situation.

Weighing yourself daily and refusing to size up because to have a size 10 pair of jeans from another store at the back of your wardrobe is bizarre.

You did this time though.
What does it matter?

It’s weird going back to get a size up was too much of an ask but going across the road was somehow easier and better because the number was smaller.

Women seem really unhappy to buy based on fit rather than number and that’s part of the problem and why so many stores make their clothes fit larger with a smaller number.

Just because you’re a 10 in one style of jeans doesn’t mean you’re a 10 in another, from the same shop or not, because there’s so much more of a range of styles in women’s clothes and women’s body shapes. One size 10 jeans might have a wider hip due to the style, another might be more of a mid rise and therefor if the hips on the jeans don’t hit your widest bit it’s not going to fit.

Way too many people take not fitting into a certain number as a personal attack from a shop.

It is truly bizarre and I've never been able to get my head around it.

Even sizes based on measurements can't be trusted. A lot of mens clothes are [in theory] sized in inches but DH varies wildly as some are off by 1-3", some are as advertised. It's not even that consistent within the same brand.

I’ve been the same weight for 30’years and wear from a 6 to a 16 - New Look are made for kids. Posh shops you pay to be thin 😂. Try shopping in a French boutique

Easy peasy then don't shop in New Look, or if you really see something you like in the future you know now to take bigger sizes in. Again I'm surprised you're unaware of this issue 🤔 it's been happening for decades and women have just learned to know which shops cut best for their body shape.

I do think Next sizes are big, bigger than M and S which are also bigger than many shops. In my experience, the shops that teenagers shop at (Primark, New Look, H and M) seem to have the smallest sizes.

It makes shopping online impossible. It's ridiculous.

Just cut the labels off your clothes and you'll forget what size they are

It's also to do with body shape though as I'm slightly taller and heavier than you and can reliable wear a size 8

But you don’t want consistency, you want a smaller size. It makes zero sense to not want the hassle of getting a larger size from the floor but being happy to go to an entirely different store.

Clothing size is a number, not a moral judgment.

It’s also very normal to fit into a smaller or larger size in tops, that’s not inconsistent either. It just reflects that we all carry weight differently. I buy a bigger size pants than tops because even at a healthy weight my tummy is the biggest bit of me. For other women it’s hips or boobs.

Yup!

Op literally changed shops rather than buy a larger size that no one except her will know about so it’s worked perfectly.

my bmi at 18 was 18/17 and now in my mid 30s it’s 21/22 and yet I’ve always been a size 10. Sometimes 8-12 depending on store . I would like to say I wouldn’t care but if I’m being honest I’d come out deflated if I had to buy a 14+ size so I’d only do it if I loved the item.

i also agree with poster above about rolls. I have older clothes that I can technically fit into but don’t flatter at my current size. I think some people will squeeze into them for the label size but they’d look a lot better sizing up.

Then there are those women who will not go up a size for certain clothes. You must know of one. My friend will not wear clothes above a size 12. Wearing a top which was far too tight.

If she wore a 14 it would look better on her than her rolls on show

Women's clothes sizes are fucking ridiculous, there's no consistency at all.

Years ago when I wanted to buy my late wife something, she'd have to tell me that she was 12 at one shop, 14 at another, 16 at a 3rd but to not buy from a 4th as that would make her an 18 there and she'd feel fat

Bloke's clothes so much easier, take jeans, sized by length and waist, what else do you need?

This! Same for chest sizing just give us a measurement

Cheap shops like new look and H&M are generally smaller in my opinion.

Men's bodies are more simple too. They're all just larger or smaller versions of the same model. Ds is a shorter, skinnier version of dh. Dd is shorter than me, with no hips yet, incipient boobs different waist to hip ratio, no bum yet- whereas my once round and squishy bum is flattening. She's not just a shorter version of me.

I'm a 12 usually, but can go down to 10 in Next, they tend to be on the more generous end. However, track back 20 years and I'd now need a 14 probably by old standards. Sizes have generally got bigger over the years.

It's time women's clothing was sold by measurement, as men's is. "30 inch waist" - as long as you've measured yourself, you can't go wrong.

This 'sizes' business is a way of controlling women and making them feel inadequate because they're larger than a 10; or subtly encouraging them to buy clothes because they are a larger cut - buying an 8 skirt when you're normally a 10 or whatever.

Why do you think men don't have 'sizes'?