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Those who believe MN is more leftists, what makes you think so?

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ItTook8WibesToKnow7WasEnough · 31/10/2024 16:08

Because to me MN has always come off much more right / conservative.

So, if you can point out what makes it so leftist.

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CurlewKate · 01/11/2024 15:04

@Mebebecat "Far right, scum, bigots, fascists, racists, thick, knuckle draggers are all terms I hear all the time on here re white working class people that I don't hear anywhere else."

Have you genuinely ever heard language like that on here used to describe people who are not actively engaged in violence or rioting?

PickAChew · 01/11/2024 15:02

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 01/11/2024 14:05

Why would I be bothered by an ordinary cat clique, because that’s all that thread is?

You give yourself too much credit.,

Well your moggy doesn't sound too wonderful @ChardonnaysBeastlyCat 😂

Shakeoffyourchains · 01/11/2024 15:01

A lot of the right leaning posters seem to confuse not criticising everything labour do immediately, or agreeing with one or two of their policies, with being a dyed in the wool, life-long, fully paid up Labour supporter.

I mean, I've stated numerous times that, as someone who wants Scottish independence, I'm stuck being a SNP voter. Yet on almost every political thread, certain posters will call me pro-labour if I disagree with their view.

I don't know why this is so unfathomable for the true blues, but some of us are able to be fairly objective when it comes to politics, I'll even criticise SNP policies / actions that I don't agree with, despite voting for the party 🫨.

But I genuinely don't think I've ever seen any of the frequent Tory supporting posters ever say a bad word about the party. Even the indefensible (PPE contracts, partygate, failure to declare interest, etc) is met with either silence, accusations of being pro labour or cries of "what about....X'.

That said, it is quite fun butting heads with some of them, especially the ones who, so blinded by their Tory support / Labour hate, end up contradicting themselves from thread to thread and don't realise it.

PandoraSox · 01/11/2024 14:56

ichundich · 01/11/2024 14:49

Its full of union members and people on benefits.

Well yes, it is a parenting site so many will be getting child benefit. I think there are quite a few people getting the State Pension too.

User135644 · 01/11/2024 14:55

CurlewKate · 01/11/2024 11:43

Mumsnet is centre right economically and politically but soft left socially. IMHO.

Which is pretty much were Labour are

Julen7 · 01/11/2024 14:53

ichundich · 01/11/2024 14:49

Its full of union members and people on benefits.

Sorry what is? Mumsnet?

downwindofyou · 01/11/2024 14:51

Mebebecat · 31/10/2024 19:06

Left leaning and intellectually elitist.
Far right, scum, bigots, fascists, racists, thick, knuckle draggers are all terms I hear all the time on here re white working class people that I don't hear anywhere else. Apart from perhaps the government.

You've fallen for some false rhetoric that white working class are all conservative. In reality they fall on both sides.
Racist, xenophobic blah blah as well as benefit recipients, scroungers, expecting everything to be given to them by the taxpayer.

😶

It's the same with the middle class. Elite liberals as well as dyed in the wool conservative.

ichundich · 01/11/2024 14:49

Its full of union members and people on benefits.

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2024 14:49

On here.

Barbadossunset · 01/11/2024 14:48

Piggywaspushed do you mean other forums like Reddit, or other threads on mumsnet?

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2024 14:47

Barbadossunset · 01/11/2024 14:40

There are whole forums I won't post on, though, so that's not a single issue left/ right thing.

Which forums won’t you post on?

Well, you won't know because I don't post there. I hide a few.

EasternStandard · 01/11/2024 14:41

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2024 14:35

There are whole forums I won't post on, though, so that's not a single issue left/ right thing.

Ok but I still want those posters to post and for the site not to be so skewed to Labour not because of content but the way people deal with a different POV. Hopefully so, but I can see why they get put off. Who wants to be called a bot etc.

Barbadossunset · 01/11/2024 14:40

There are whole forums I won't post on, though, so that's not a single issue left/ right thing.

Which forums won’t you post on?

PandoraSox · 01/11/2024 14:36

Efacsen · 01/11/2024 14:32

Is that as well as being gay/bisexual and leading a double life with his second family?

😂

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2024 14:35

EasternStandard · 01/11/2024 14:24

No issue with cats or with people posting on a thread if they share a political pov, happy to leave people to it rather than read / engage.

But the original claim that mn doesn’t have a strong pro Labour skew on many threads I think is incorrect

And in many cases there’s a posting tactic which isn’t good for balanced debate. Which is why mn has diverged from general commentary in many ways. A common tactic is ‘bot’ HQ or the sneery attacks

A few posters have said the same on why they don’t post, that’s a shame, I’d like to read other POV

There are whole forums I won't post on, though, so that's not a single issue left/ right thing.

InterIgnis · 01/11/2024 14:32

HamptonPlace · 01/11/2024 14:22

What's wrong with 'intellectually elitist' (your term)? Presumably, by the common definition, that means people who know more? Correct me if i'm wrong!

I’d take intellectual elitism over knuckle dragging populism tbh, but then no one likes to be patronized and treated as if they’re stupid (even if they are). Doing so just entrenches anti intellectual sentiment.

I’m a centre-right capitalist and social liberal. I would say whether mumsnet leans left or right depends on the thread you’re on. It can lean very authoritarian at times though!

Efacsen · 01/11/2024 14:32

PandoraSox · 01/11/2024 14:26

Yep. I'd agree with that. I only voted for this version of Labour to GTTO.

On another thread Starmer and Reeves were accused of being communist. That gave me a good laugh,

Is that as well as being gay/bisexual and leading a double life with his second family?

EasternStandard · 01/11/2024 14:29

Printedword · 01/11/2024 14:24

I think it’s generally quite right wing on MN. The threads in support of Starmer are a complete misnomer - this is the most right wing Labour government ever.

Really? More than Blair?

I don’t see it that way due to high tax and debt although no PFI I guess

I think Blair carried the central ground with higher support for much longer

PandoraSox · 01/11/2024 14:26

Printedword · 01/11/2024 14:24

I think it’s generally quite right wing on MN. The threads in support of Starmer are a complete misnomer - this is the most right wing Labour government ever.

Yep. I'd agree with that. I only voted for this version of Labour to GTTO.

On another thread Starmer and Reeves were accused of being communist. That gave me a good laugh,

Printedword · 01/11/2024 14:24

I think it’s generally quite right wing on MN. The threads in support of Starmer are a complete misnomer - this is the most right wing Labour government ever.

PandoraSox · 01/11/2024 14:24

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 01/11/2024 14:18

I’m sorry about your cat and I’m
sure that fur you it was the best cat ever.

it doesn’t make that thread any more of a reasonable police debate.

it’s a cat obsessed echo chamber.

It's you who keeps mentioning the flipping cats!

Are you JD Vance in disguise?

EasternStandard · 01/11/2024 14:24

No issue with cats or with people posting on a thread if they share a political pov, happy to leave people to it rather than read / engage.

But the original claim that mn doesn’t have a strong pro Labour skew on many threads I think is incorrect

And in many cases there’s a posting tactic which isn’t good for balanced debate. Which is why mn has diverged from general commentary in many ways. A common tactic is ‘bot’ HQ or the sneery attacks

A few posters have said the same on why they don’t post, that’s a shame, I’d like to read other POV

HamptonPlace · 01/11/2024 14:22

Mebebecat · 31/10/2024 19:06

Left leaning and intellectually elitist.
Far right, scum, bigots, fascists, racists, thick, knuckle draggers are all terms I hear all the time on here re white working class people that I don't hear anywhere else. Apart from perhaps the government.

What's wrong with 'intellectually elitist' (your term)? Presumably, by the common definition, that means people who know more? Correct me if i'm wrong!

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2024 14:19

Efacsen · 01/11/2024 14:18

IDK but criticising posters cats does seem intended to 'hit a nerve' - in addition to being massively childish

Do you also pop over to the Litter Tray and critique the cat photos there?

Can't believe I'm engaging with this sort of nonsense really

And Masterchef threads have cats. Horror.

Piggywaspushed · 01/11/2024 14:19

Julen7 · 01/11/2024 14:18

@Piggywaspushed @PandoraSox very sorry for your losses

Thank you

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