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AIBU to not want to baptise my babies?

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TheMummyJade · 31/10/2024 04:11

Hi! So basically, my eldest is baptised as per request of both sets of grandparents, because my husband and I both enjoyed growing up surrounded by people in the faith, and because my husband and I want to enrol him in the local Catholic primary school. However, we didn't when it came to our second son because we had both just been starting new jobs, moving into a new house, and were busy with two young boys. Now that I'm due with 3 babies, I don't think we'll have the time, or that we really need, to baptise them. Neither my husband or I are practising Catholics, however both of fathers are, and our mothers just think it would be nice for us to have them baptised. I also feel a bit silly if we were to have 4 out of 5 kids baptise and our second son isn't.
Thanks in advance Mumsnet, and thank you for all the love and advice on my last thread 😊

OP posts:
jackstini · 31/10/2024 08:56

I'd do it, because it's not fair to have done it for one and not the others

It could make a difference for school and marriage in future

It's not going to do them any harm!

wiesowarum · 31/10/2024 08:53

UnderOverUp · 31/10/2024 06:01

This rather depends on whether you believe in a God who would condemn an unbaptised child, doesn’t it?

OP honestly you have to do what’s right for you and your family. If you want them baptised I would expect you could get your second done at the same time.

Personally, I cannot understand why someone would have their child baptised if they did not believe in Catholicism.

Overall I agree with you, however catholics are not the only religious group who baptise.

BookishType · 31/10/2024 08:38

I’d do it, and did do it, to get the children into the local Catholic primary. If that’s not a factor, I wouldn’t bother.

Darby3785 · 31/10/2024 08:37

You and your DH should be doing what's best for your family.

I wouldn't be baptising my children just so they could get into a school but that's my personal preference.

I also wouldn't do it to appease family members , with all due respect they are your children and if you and DH are not practising catholics then I don't see the need.

Moonshiners · 31/10/2024 08:37

Sheri99 · 31/10/2024 04:36

Get it done, all of them.

No one knows the time and place of disaster. The last thing you want to do is have a funeral of a child and realize you didn't make time for the most important thing in this world.

Lol. That is ridiculous. This is one of the many reasons I hate Catholicism.
I was baptized against my parents wishes and I feel really weird about it.
To me means absolutely nothing and if it did I would organize getting myself baptized.

spreadbedcandlewick · 31/10/2024 08:33

As someone baptised in the Catholic faith from a Catholic family I would baptise all 4 of them for the potential school admissions. Sorry, but that is my honest opinion. My sibling is still a practising Catholic and her local Catholic primary had what was considered a giant class size at 19 children. Their admissions policy is regular church attendance which does put off those who baptise for entry. This was also the same for the secondary so if you are wanting the primary check their policy.

My Mum babysat my children and would of course take them to the local Catholic church to me, my children are not baptised nor are we believers in the Catholic faith. My children saw it that they were learning about their Grandma's faith. They attended the local CofE school and learned about all faiths.

HelloMyNameIsElderSmurf · 31/10/2024 08:26

You've baptised one child - what material difference has that made to their, or your, lives?

If that's been positive, crack on and do all four.

If neutral, do nothing.

But pretendy Catholicism for school placements really grinds my gears.

ExtraOnions · 31/10/2024 08:23

Have you checked the rules for school admission ? I’m Catholic, and a school governor .. at our (popular) local feeder primary school .. Baptised Catholics are high up the list, and, the time beteeen birth & baptism is taken into account - to stop people getting thier children baptised a week before applications close.

Baptised Catholics get preferce to siblings.

BarbaraHoward · 31/10/2024 08:18

We were both raised Catholic (Ireland) and had all the sacraments but didn't get married in church or christen our children as we don't believe. We've never regretted it.

However in your case, what you've done for one I'd do for all. The difference could create resentment down the line, whether in terms of schooling or wedding choices, or the other way because there's no opting out.

Tattletwat · 31/10/2024 08:10

I wouldn't let them decide when they are older.

Not sure the not having time thing is about though as it would be one day, but you seem to bang on about being busy a few times since your post.

Treacy900 · 31/10/2024 07:37

Not a Roman Catholic but a practising Evangelical Christian. Naturally I'm delighted when people turn to follow Jesus, but I've always found it really weird that people choose to do "life events" in a church where they a) never go to and b) don't actually follow it in day to day life.

OP, they're your children so please do what you think is best for them.

ttcat37 · 31/10/2024 06:14

Absolutely pointless. Forcing your children into a cult whilst they are unable to decide for themselves, purely to please others. All that matters is that you love them.

UnderOverUp · 31/10/2024 06:01

Sheri99 · 31/10/2024 04:36

Get it done, all of them.

No one knows the time and place of disaster. The last thing you want to do is have a funeral of a child and realize you didn't make time for the most important thing in this world.

This rather depends on whether you believe in a God who would condemn an unbaptised child, doesn’t it?

OP honestly you have to do what’s right for you and your family. If you want them baptised I would expect you could get your second done at the same time.

Personally, I cannot understand why someone would have their child baptised if they did not believe in Catholicism.

wiesowarum · 31/10/2024 05:53

Sheri99 · 31/10/2024 04:36

Get it done, all of them.

No one knows the time and place of disaster. The last thing you want to do is have a funeral of a child and realize you didn't make time for the most important thing in this world.

Clearly it's not actually one of the most important things to OP and her DH though?

Bakingandcrying · 31/10/2024 05:50

I didn’t have my DD baptised and she went to a catholic primary school and a catholic secondary school, we didn’t go to church either

I was of the understanding that if it’s a public school they can’t turn away children for this reason. DD’s secondary school said it’s a huge misconception and they had many children of different faiths, including atheists

beetr00 · 31/10/2024 05:41

although the UK is "purported" to be non-secular, if you'd like all your children to attend a catholic school, you should definitely consider having them all baptised.

Presuming the only decent schools in your area are catholic?

heldinadream · 31/10/2024 05:30

Gettingbysomehow · 31/10/2024 05:03

5 kids. Are you sure you aren't practising catholics?

She's pregnant with triplets, you get that don't you?

@TheMummyJade congratulations and I hope the rest of your pregnancy and the births all go well. 💞 I think you should do exactly as you and your husband want to, and the families need to move towards acceptance of the loss of your faith. Their feelings about it are their problem, not yours. You've got enough to deal with I think!

LordEmsworth · 31/10/2024 05:17

Gettingbysomehow · 31/10/2024 05:03

5 kids. Are you sure you aren't practising catholics?

Wow. Is slagging off Catholic women for getting pregnant 3 times still something people do? Interesting to know, thought it does out in the 90s

JoanCollected · 31/10/2024 05:15

I’d do it because unfortunately the school system is still in the clutches of churches so it lets you apply to the best school nearby possibly.

beetr00 · 31/10/2024 05:12

@TheMummyJade this
https://www.catholiceducation.org.uk/guidance-for-schools/admissions#:

@Gettingbysomehow 🙈

MumChp · 31/10/2024 05:06

sashh · 31/10/2024 05:00

It depends on the school's admission criteria.

Personally I would not, I am really uncomfortable with part of the RC rite being an exorcism.

Fair enough. The CofE school we were situated next to only children from church going family were allocated a place

Gettingbysomehow · 31/10/2024 05:03

5 kids. Are you sure you aren't practising catholics?

sashh · 31/10/2024 05:00

MumChp · 31/10/2024 04:57

Don't you have to attend church to enroll in a Catholic school?

It depends on the school's admission criteria.

Personally I would not, I am really uncomfortable with part of the RC rite being an exorcism.

MumChp · 31/10/2024 04:57

User37482 · 31/10/2024 04:50

I would, really helpful for school as a just in case. Plus they may want to get married in church at some point. If they are non practicing/atheist as they grow up then it will make zero difference to them.

Don't you have to attend church to enroll in a Catholic school?

JustJoinedRightNow · 31/10/2024 04:52

Sheri99 · 31/10/2024 04:36

Get it done, all of them.

No one knows the time and place of disaster. The last thing you want to do is have a funeral of a child and realize you didn't make time for the most important thing in this world.

I respectfully disagree with this.
Don't baptize them just to suit older family members. If faith is important to them when they grow up they can choose to be baptized then.