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Haven’t paid rent in months!

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Uppoopcreek · 31/10/2024 00:13

I’ve just realised I haven’t paid my rent in around 6 months! I don’t know how this could have happened?
ive lived here around 4 years. All I can think is I set up a standing order a while ago and it didn’t work properly?
now, I have pretty severe MH problems. Awful anxiety and depression(probable ADHD but still waiting for an appointment to start the process). I never check my bank, I’m behind with other bills, too. I’m a bury my head in the sand type of person, but worry constantly about everything, About a month ago I hit rock bottom. Won’t go into details, but it wasn’t great.
I have 3 DC, and I’m on benefits.
Help! What do I do?! Had a text from landlord last night asking me to call him, which is what’s just prompted me to look now. I was asleep when he text.

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BabyCloud · 31/10/2024 17:23

Has your housing benefit been paid to you and you’ve spent it? You can ask it to go direct to landlord. Request that tomorrow.

southpawsofthenorth · 31/10/2024 17:21

Calmnessandchaos · 31/10/2024 17:06

Exactly. People who have addiction issues or in a manic bipolar cycle are not going to check their bank account after every purchase. It's easy for someone in a bipolar cycle to get into thousands of pounds of debts I'm a tiny period of time (my friend is bipolar and that's what happened to her, and it was caused by a tiny drop on her meds dosage) it's not an excuse but it can be a reason.

I doubt anyone in the grips of addiction or mania would have the wherewithal to even care that they were in debt or bother making posts on MN.

Calmnessandchaos · 31/10/2024 17:06

mathanxiety · 31/10/2024 16:41

You can easily spend more than you realise when your mental illness involves avoidant behaviour such as not checking your account.

You can also spend more than you realise when prices rise significantly, which they have done. Maybe the OP kept the heat on?

Overall though, serious anxiety and other MH issues can result in a huge financial mess. Bills can go unpaid very easily.

Exactly. People who have addiction issues or in a manic bipolar cycle are not going to check their bank account after every purchase. It's easy for someone in a bipolar cycle to get into thousands of pounds of debts I'm a tiny period of time (my friend is bipolar and that's what happened to her, and it was caused by a tiny drop on her meds dosage) it's not an excuse but it can be a reason.

Bachboo · 31/10/2024 17:05

Frequency · 31/10/2024 16:51

But she didn't so what is the point of posting that unless your aim is to make the poor woman panic more/feel worse than she already is?

It is done. It cannot be undone. Pontificating about what OP spent the money is useless, it won't help OP, her kids, or her LL.

All that can happen now is a plan to move forward and prevent this from happening again eg getting the rent element paid to the LL directly, setting up an affordable payment plan if the LL is agreeable, and contacting CAB for budgeting advice. Plus some support for her MH issues if there isn't already something in place.

Sorry but I think the OP knew exactly what she was doing

Boomer55 · 31/10/2024 17:04

ThisOldThang · 31/10/2024 15:25

If it's illegal for the council to not house them, I'm not sure there's much difference at all.

It’s illegal for councils not to put a roof over the heads of the children. However that happens in whatever form, The council, if it’s classed as “intentional homelessness” have no obligation towards the adults. 🤷‍♀️

Calmnessandchaos · 31/10/2024 17:00

Hi OP. This thread seems to have been derailed a little bit, so wanted to add some practical advice, which has been said, but maybe missed.

  1. contact LL and guarantor, if not done that already. Also council's have a homelessness team, contact them for advice.
  2. contact a debt charity or service. When you have MH issues, even the smallest thing seems overwhelming, and they won't judge you.
  3. speak to your GP or MH worker if you have one. It might be meds are needed/ adjusted/ further support is needed for yourself. Also, if your MH condition makes managing money harder, you could ask your GP or MH worker for a letter stating that, for debtors records. If you have MH issues, debt collection services SHOULD (but always don't, sadly) treat you as a vulnerable person. If you have a trusted family member or friend, ask for their help to manage your finances. Is there anything you bought you could sell to raise the rent money?

It's not ideal, but what's done is done, and trying to take back control and trying to fix your finances is the best way to go, not dwelling on what's happened. I hope everything works out.

ChallahPlaiter · 31/10/2024 16:59

EagerExpert · 31/10/2024 14:42

Not illegal for private landlords - see previous posts.

Yet you could take legal action against landlords discriminating in this way. Also the law differs across the UK nations.

Being able to get away with something is a different matter to it being legal. I thank my lucky stars every day that I don’t have to rent. Working in homelessness is a real eye-opener.

Pickandmixmood · 31/10/2024 16:58

I suspect that it is often the people with the most severe MH problems who don’t use it as an excuse for their behaviour. Some people unfortunately like to plead MH issues to explain their feckless decisions.

And yes, I do have severe MH issues myself so I understand how difficult life can be

If the OP is actually telling the truth then I would worry whether she is capable of looking after her children.

usererror99 · 31/10/2024 16:53

You can easily spend more than you realise

Not by several hundred pounds per month when you are already on a low income ....

Frequency · 31/10/2024 16:51

Bachboo · 31/10/2024 16:48

That is why they should put plans in place to ensure your rent is paid first and this is exactly what the OP should have done.

But she didn't so what is the point of posting that unless your aim is to make the poor woman panic more/feel worse than she already is?

It is done. It cannot be undone. Pontificating about what OP spent the money is useless, it won't help OP, her kids, or her LL.

All that can happen now is a plan to move forward and prevent this from happening again eg getting the rent element paid to the LL directly, setting up an affordable payment plan if the LL is agreeable, and contacting CAB for budgeting advice. Plus some support for her MH issues if there isn't already something in place.

Bachboo · 31/10/2024 16:48

wiesowarum · 31/10/2024 05:48

Did you read any of OPs opening? People in a similar situation often struggle to mamage finances.

That is why they should put plans in place to ensure your rent is paid first and this is exactly what the OP should have done.

Bachboo · 31/10/2024 16:41

wiesowarum · 31/10/2024 16:33

Silly response. MH doesn't just disappear if you have kids.

Just because you have mental health issues does not mean you take no responsibility over your own financial matters.

mathanxiety · 31/10/2024 16:41

ssd · 31/10/2024 07:40

Didnt the op notice tons of extra stuff she had bought accidentally instead of paying her rent?!?

You can easily spend more than you realise when your mental illness involves avoidant behaviour such as not checking your account.

You can also spend more than you realise when prices rise significantly, which they have done. Maybe the OP kept the heat on?

Overall though, serious anxiety and other MH issues can result in a huge financial mess. Bills can go unpaid very easily.

mathanxiety · 31/10/2024 16:35

Frequency · 31/10/2024 07:06

Personally, I'd put a roof over my children's heads above morals but maybe that is just me.

I don't think lying to the LL is a good idea, simply because the bank making a mistake for 6 months is not believable, nor do I think berating OP is helpful.

When you're on a low income checking your bank is hard. I try my best not to check mine atm. I despise transferring people money because it means logging into my bank and checking how much money I don't have.

Couple poverty with mental health issues and you've a potential recipe for disaster. OP knows she has fucked up, she doesn't need MN kicking her while she is down.

OP, in some circumstances you can get the rent element of UC paid directly to your LL. I would look into this and discuss with the LL this is your plan so you both know this can never happen again. Then you just need to work out how much of a top-up you can afford to pay each week/month and what the best way to pay is (bank transfer, standing order, cash dropped off through his door etc)

Yes, this rings very true.

wiesowarum · 31/10/2024 16:33

PassingStranger · 31/10/2024 16:26

You can't afford too when your running a home and have children.

Silly response. MH doesn't just disappear if you have kids.

murasaki · 31/10/2024 16:33

Priority bills come first.

I imagine the extra has been spent on a 1st December box, matching Xmas pjs and other unnecessary tat.

Iwantabrightsunnyday · 31/10/2024 16:28

Make sure you have money coming in, roof over your head and the basics for the kids. That is not a joke

PassingStranger · 31/10/2024 16:26

wiesowarum · 31/10/2024 05:48

Did you read any of OPs opening? People in a similar situation often struggle to mamage finances.

You can't afford too when your running a home and have children.

listsandbudgets · 31/10/2024 16:21

OP are you sure you've had nothing from the landlord? Do you open your post or is part of burying your head in the sand ignoring it?

I find it hard to believe you've spent all the rent money without noticing bit it's done now so no point dwelling on it.

I hope you cam get this resolved for the sake of your children but also for yourself

murasaki · 31/10/2024 16:20

SlugLettuce · 31/10/2024 16:18

It came with certain conditions, engaging with budgeting support, setting direct payment to landlord for future payments and some other bits and pieces, the idea being that nobody could then just run up arrears again and expect them to just be dealt with repeatedly.

That sounds like a good scheme that also would be helpful for the tenants in learning new skills re budgeting.

SlugLettuce · 31/10/2024 16:18

It came with certain conditions, engaging with budgeting support, setting direct payment to landlord for future payments and some other bits and pieces, the idea being that nobody could then just run up arrears again and expect them to just be dealt with repeatedly.

murasaki · 31/10/2024 16:14

SlugLettuce · 31/10/2024 16:11

I’ve seen this done before but quite a few years ago now and via a housing department after an eviction notice had been received rather than through housing benefit but can’t remember what it was called. Presumably they’d had specific funding.

So many councils are going bankrupt these days that they may not be able or willing to do it. It does make sense though if the debt is gradually clawed back.

usererror99 · 31/10/2024 16:14

There is no way that someone doesn't notice that the biggest bill they likely have hasn't been paid ....and for several months 🤔
Especially when monies already tight - where did she think the extra hundreds of pounds per month suddenly came from??

SlugLettuce · 31/10/2024 16:11

murasaki · 31/10/2024 16:08

Good point re being cheaper than emergency housing. But then the council should arrange a plan for her to pay it back to them. As it was clearly spunked up the wall. Neither the landlord or the council should be out of pocket here for something totally avoidable.

I’ve seen this done before but quite a few years ago now and via a housing department after an eviction notice had been received rather than through housing benefit but can’t remember what it was called. Presumably they’d had specific funding.

Yesiknowdear · 31/10/2024 16:09

StMarieforme · 31/10/2024 14:43

But if she owes 6 times say £800 that's £4800 so paying back at £50 would take 96 months! He's not going to do that!

I agree, the only way that OP stands any chance is if she offers to pay back the money quickly.

I got into arrears with my landlord when I was 20 odd, and they wanted the arrears paid back ASAP.