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Haven’t paid rent in months!

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Uppoopcreek · 31/10/2024 00:13

I’ve just realised I haven’t paid my rent in around 6 months! I don’t know how this could have happened?
ive lived here around 4 years. All I can think is I set up a standing order a while ago and it didn’t work properly?
now, I have pretty severe MH problems. Awful anxiety and depression(probable ADHD but still waiting for an appointment to start the process). I never check my bank, I’m behind with other bills, too. I’m a bury my head in the sand type of person, but worry constantly about everything, About a month ago I hit rock bottom. Won’t go into details, but it wasn’t great.
I have 3 DC, and I’m on benefits.
Help! What do I do?! Had a text from landlord last night asking me to call him, which is what’s just prompted me to look now. I was asleep when he text.

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3luckystars · 31/10/2024 09:02

Sometimes when there is not enough in the account, the standing order doesn’t go out. So I can see how it happened the first time.

Ask for help today. You can’t go on like this.

Good luck.

krisspie · 31/10/2024 09:00

georgiapeachh · 31/10/2024 08:54

Jesus Christ op has mental health problems she can't face looking at her bank account. Talk about some people are just clueless about mental health. It's a real thing to 'bury your head in the sand'

Op what is done is done. Please call your landlord today and let them speak. Say the truth that you had set up a standing order and something has gone wrong on the banking side of things and you will call the bank and see what's happened .

Then have a cup of tea and write down a speech to say to the bank and call the bank. You can do this. Speak with the bank and see what they say.

Then have something to eat and try and stay calm and call landlord back and ask what can be done to resolve this. Perhaps they will say they can add it on to future payments? You never know. Perhaps they say that's not possible but you can only ask

This !

So many people on here are clueless about mental health and need to educate themselves before making sweeping judgey statements.

It no wonder our MH services are in such a dire state !

StevieNic · 31/10/2024 08:59

@Attelina we don’t need to hear about how a leeching landlord would be ‘furious’ if this happened to you

StevieNic · 31/10/2024 08:57

So sorry this has happened. You need to tell your landlord you’ve only just realised it wasn’t being paid automatically and also explain you’ve been severely unwell these last few months. Ask if you can set up a payment plan

georgiapeachh · 31/10/2024 08:54

Jesus Christ op has mental health problems she can't face looking at her bank account. Talk about some people are just clueless about mental health. It's a real thing to 'bury your head in the sand'

Op what is done is done. Please call your landlord today and let them speak. Say the truth that you had set up a standing order and something has gone wrong on the banking side of things and you will call the bank and see what's happened .

Then have a cup of tea and write down a speech to say to the bank and call the bank. You can do this. Speak with the bank and see what they say.

Then have something to eat and try and stay calm and call landlord back and ask what can be done to resolve this. Perhaps they will say they can add it on to future payments? You never know. Perhaps they say that's not possible but you can only ask

DaisysChains · 31/10/2024 08:54

As a matter of urgency gather all your statements and other bills information and make an appointment with an advisor to go through them all to find out what has and hasn’t been paid and what that rent money has been spent on

I am unsurprised that bad mh could cause you to not realise s/o wasn’t working, or that there was extra money in the account, but have to admit I am as confused as PPs as to how the extra money is all spent without noticing - you need to find out what you spent it on as that’s important information for future budgeting

we may not all be able to be on top of every penny but is our responsibility to do what we can especially if we already know we need a bit more help than others

see this time as not just a one off mess needing to be sorted but as a chance to get help to set up systems to help you manage now and into the future

get that help to set up your finances so that you have a budget, d/d and s/o so if v ill at times you can concentrate on your health and not be missing payments and building up arrears over regular bills like rent, gas, elec, car, nursery etc

use budgeting book or app, set calendar alerts for payments in/out, use phone alarms to remind you to check your account

it’s not shameful to need extra help, and it is really sensible to use all the help we can to form support systems and structure for times when a crisis might hit

bc a crisis can hit anyone, at any time

Pineapplefizzz · 31/10/2024 08:54

ChallahPlaiter · 31/10/2024 07:17

Some dreadfully bad and horribly judgemental “advice” here.
Hopefully you have health care professionals working with you, op. You may want to get advice from Shelter re your housing issues. I wouldn’t look for solutions on here; it’s full of people who have no experience of severe mental ill health or who think that because they’ve managed to cope with health problems, everyone else should be able to as well.
Good luck.

Agreed!

Lemonadeand · 31/10/2024 08:52

It happens. I had a friend who was going through a really hard time with her mental health and a drinking problem and didn’t realise her old job were accidentally still paying her in addition to her new job. I don’t know what you can do really other than put it on a credit card and find a way to claw the money back over time.

Sdpbody · 31/10/2024 08:51

You knew exactly what you were doing!!

This is why landlords won't rent to people on UC.

Nobody has a spare £700 a month plus for 6 months and doesn't realise. You knew and you used the money anyway.

Greyrocked · 31/10/2024 08:51

Apologies profusely, take the 4months missing money split it across 12 months and add that to your monthly amounts and hope he accepts this. Then try to get an appointment with CAP who can help you sort through all financial stuff with compassion.

ChallahPlaiter · 31/10/2024 08:45

SabbatWheel · 31/10/2024 08:15

This is a mess of your own making. You state you bury your head in the sand and don’t check your bank account, are surprised you’re 6 months behind on rent, then wring your hands and pull the ADHD/mental health card.

Your 3 children NEED you to be the adult. Step up!
Contact your landlord and if necessary Stepchange to help you sort out this mess.

Another pointless comment. Would you like to have severe mh problems? It’s not a “card” people play when it suits, it’s life altering.

photodiva · 31/10/2024 08:44

WallaceinAnderland · 31/10/2024 01:14

How did you not notice all the extra money you had from not paying rent?

This! I guess your rent must be over £500 a month how could you possibly not notice you had all that extra money?

LumpyandBumps · 31/10/2024 08:41

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 31/10/2024 08:22

Having been both a tenant on benefits and a landlord of someone on benefits, I am convinced that the best way for both is for the landlord to be paid the rent directly by the benefits office. I didn't know it was still possible, @butterpuffed, like @ByQuaintAzureWasp, I thought it had been stopped decades ago.
I'm sorry about the mess you're in, @Uppoopcreek, I hope you can come to terms with your landlord. There is much wise advice about your situation up-thread, I hope some of it helps you.

Whilst paying rent, which is a specified cost, directly to the landlord can be a solution in some cases it does have its negative aspects for landlords too.

Firstly the payment doesn’t necessarily cover the whole rent, it comes in at different times to the due date, and needs frequent reconciliation to keep the tenant appraised of the current situation. Many tenants are capable of budgeting, make a single monthly payment to their landlord and possibly wouldn’t appreciate this type of intervention.

It’s now only available when arrears each 2 months. At that stage it’s probably the better option.

Some councils are also guilty of recovering payments from the landlord instead of the tenant, if there is an overpayment due to tenant fault. ( They shouldn’t, but it happens and at best it takes time challenging the decision.) Again it’s probably worth the risk in problem cases.

Qwerty21 · 31/10/2024 08:37

OrangeKettle · 31/10/2024 01:09

I get it, op. I don’t check my bank account. I can’t. It makes me feel sick. I know how bad things are by the texts the bank send me.

I wouldn’t know if my rent was coming out, because I would assume it was and also wouldn’t see it coming out of my bank unless I checked…. Which I don’t.

This, and the op, is really unhealthy behaviour. It's far more likely to make issues for yourself that will cause even more stress and anxiety than checking your bank account will. There may be unnecessary charges coming out of your account, fraud, anything. It's honestly really not good to bury your head in the sand.

I also don't believe you can not pay rent for 6 months without realising. Even if your rents somehow only £200 a month that's over a grand you've spent that you shouldn't have. You don't spend that much money without realising you shouldn't have it. Maybe the first month, at a huge push two, but I'd be much more inclined to think you realised and thought oh well he's not realised maybe I can get away with more. And yes that's coming from someone with history of being bad with Money and spending talking from experience. (I got myself into a lot of unnecessary debt , thankfully I'm not like that anymore).

5128gap · 31/10/2024 08:33

Pickandmixmood · 31/10/2024 01:01

This. If you were struggling due to COL then you would know exactly how much money you had in your account and you couldn’t possibly have spent the rent without realising it.
I have MH issues too but this story doesn’t make sense

No. It doesn't work like that. Countless people have no idea at all how much money is in their account. They often find it too triggering to look. They just tap their cards with their fingers crossed there's enough to cover their purchase. When there isn't they have to borrow from friends, use foodbanks or go without. When there is they're just very grateful.

30percent · 31/10/2024 08:26

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 31/10/2024 08:22

Having been both a tenant on benefits and a landlord of someone on benefits, I am convinced that the best way for both is for the landlord to be paid the rent directly by the benefits office. I didn't know it was still possible, @butterpuffed, like @ByQuaintAzureWasp, I thought it had been stopped decades ago.
I'm sorry about the mess you're in, @Uppoopcreek, I hope you can come to terms with your landlord. There is much wise advice about your situation up-thread, I hope some of it helps you.

I had a small period of unemployment where I claimed benefits, just literally put in a standing order that comes out the same day.
Not everyone gets all their rent paid by benefits sometimes it's just half of it especially with rent being so expensive and benefits for rent are capped on how much they will pay.

WinterMorn · 31/10/2024 08:26

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 31/10/2024 08:24

Just thinking about your examples ... when I was a kid money was short. If you went for a walk, you walked from home, no car journey
There was no hot chocolate at the park, ever.
We never went to 'soft play' and I can't recall ever going out for lunch.
We didn't have the money, end of.
We need to get back to the principle that if you don't have the money you can't have 'it', whatever 'it' is.

Same here. It just didn’t happen and you had to get on with it! I think, on balance, it was a better lifestyle.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 31/10/2024 08:24

noaccess · 31/10/2024 07:02

I can completely see how this is done actually - people are assuming you’re going out and buying a couple of big purchases for a couple of hundred but what is more likely is that it’s a small accumulation. There was a thread about this the other day. You go to the park and buy a hot chocolate; you go for a walk and have to pay for parking, you take the children to soft play and buy lunch. Nip to the co op and get a couple of things for dinner, drive to a new park and a bit more on petrol. It’s those sort of things.

When you have no money you don’t check your banking apps because they just tell you what you already know: you have no money. It’s when you have money, even if not much, you keep an eye on it.

Just thinking about your examples ... when I was a kid money was short. If you went for a walk, you walked from home, no car journey
There was no hot chocolate at the park, ever.
We never went to 'soft play' and I can't recall ever going out for lunch.
We didn't have the money, end of.
We need to get back to the principle that if you don't have the money you can't have 'it', whatever 'it' is.

SeulementUneFois · 31/10/2024 08:23

Presume your (new) landlord is only now catching up with things after the death of his son?

Also I would think that the next thing he'd do is get onto your guarantor and get all the arrears from her. Rather than make a payment plan with you - he'd rather get all his money owed from the guarantor, and then you and your friend can have a payment plan.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 31/10/2024 08:22

butterpuffed · 31/10/2024 07:59

I get a small amount of housing benefit and it's always paid directly to the landlord .

Having been both a tenant on benefits and a landlord of someone on benefits, I am convinced that the best way for both is for the landlord to be paid the rent directly by the benefits office. I didn't know it was still possible, @butterpuffed, like @ByQuaintAzureWasp, I thought it had been stopped decades ago.
I'm sorry about the mess you're in, @Uppoopcreek, I hope you can come to terms with your landlord. There is much wise advice about your situation up-thread, I hope some of it helps you.

southpawsofthenorth · 31/10/2024 08:20

I’m surprised your landlord hasn’t noticed. Are you absolutely sure the payments haven’t gone through?

FriendOrNo · 31/10/2024 08:19

noaccess · 31/10/2024 07:02

I can completely see how this is done actually - people are assuming you’re going out and buying a couple of big purchases for a couple of hundred but what is more likely is that it’s a small accumulation. There was a thread about this the other day. You go to the park and buy a hot chocolate; you go for a walk and have to pay for parking, you take the children to soft play and buy lunch. Nip to the co op and get a couple of things for dinner, drive to a new park and a bit more on petrol. It’s those sort of things.

When you have no money you don’t check your banking apps because they just tell you what you already know: you have no money. It’s when you have money, even if not much, you keep an eye on it.

I'm not on benefits and I don't buy coffees out or eat out or impulse buy because I can't afford it. It's honestly not rocket science that these are not within your means on benefits.

LIZS · 31/10/2024 08:17

Do you have any of the money you would have paid for rent and bills? Are you on uc or pip? If it is utilities register as vulnerable to avoid being cut off. If any council tax is outstanding that needs to be a priority like rent. Can you get an urgent appointment with CAB to support you making offers to repay and check you are receiving all the relevant benefits?

SabbatWheel · 31/10/2024 08:15

This is a mess of your own making. You state you bury your head in the sand and don’t check your bank account, are surprised you’re 6 months behind on rent, then wring your hands and pull the ADHD/mental health card.

Your 3 children NEED you to be the adult. Step up!
Contact your landlord and if necessary Stepchange to help you sort out this mess.

30percent · 31/10/2024 08:15

MildGreenDairyLiquid · 31/10/2024 00:34

To be fair, I used to have a landlord that seemed totally disengaged from this kind of stuff. I always paid but he never checked, and the rent was substantially lower than the market rate because he never bothered putting it up. Conversely, he was very on it with repairs.

Anyway, the only solution is to be honest and up front and suggest a workable solution. No other option really.

Yeah I had one like this too 😂 didn't put the rent up for the five years I was there during in that time rent everywhere else went up by a LOT. And I was still renting it for half what it was worth.
Unfortunately he also never bothered to repair anything. Had to do repairs myself. Fully disengaged, I think it was his only property too

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