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Haven’t paid rent in months!

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Uppoopcreek · 31/10/2024 00:13

I’ve just realised I haven’t paid my rent in around 6 months! I don’t know how this could have happened?
ive lived here around 4 years. All I can think is I set up a standing order a while ago and it didn’t work properly?
now, I have pretty severe MH problems. Awful anxiety and depression(probable ADHD but still waiting for an appointment to start the process). I never check my bank, I’m behind with other bills, too. I’m a bury my head in the sand type of person, but worry constantly about everything, About a month ago I hit rock bottom. Won’t go into details, but it wasn’t great.
I have 3 DC, and I’m on benefits.
Help! What do I do?! Had a text from landlord last night asking me to call him, which is what’s just prompted me to look now. I was asleep when he text.

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murasaki · 31/10/2024 16:08

SlugLettuce · 31/10/2024 16:05

It’s cheaper and easier for the council to pay off the arrears of someone with presumably demonstrable mental health issues who can show that they are in dire straits than to support a whole family through an eviction including temp accom which costs hundreds of pounds per week for however long it takes. In fact they can use a case like that to show that they are carrying out prevention work and have stopped someone from becoming homeless. Its not a solution to any of the problems raised but this is what happens in reality.

Good point re being cheaper than emergency housing. But then the council should arrange a plan for her to pay it back to them. As it was clearly spunked up the wall. Neither the landlord or the council should be out of pocket here for something totally avoidable.

SlugLettuce · 31/10/2024 16:05

It’s cheaper and easier for the council to pay off the arrears of someone with presumably demonstrable mental health issues who can show that they are in dire straits than to support a whole family through an eviction including temp accom which costs hundreds of pounds per week for however long it takes. In fact they can use a case like that to show that they are carrying out prevention work and have stopped someone from becoming homeless. Its not a solution to any of the problems raised but this is what happens in reality.

SilverChampagne · 31/10/2024 15:57

DoreenonTill8 · 31/10/2024 15:50

Is very confusing... are some posters saying so you MUST rent to people on benefits if they want your property?
So one flat, 27 people after it, 17 on benefits 10 not, it's illegal not to take all of the benefits people?

Of course that’s not how it works in reality, no matter what some idiots would have you believe.

DoreenonTill8 · 31/10/2024 15:50

SilverChampagne · 31/10/2024 14:37

So? You can rent your own property to whomever you please.

Is very confusing... are some posters saying so you MUST rent to people on benefits if they want your property?
So one flat, 27 people after it, 17 on benefits 10 not, it's illegal not to take all of the benefits people?

Treeinthesky · 31/10/2024 15:33

For a starters get your rent paid direct to him from your universal credit why are you not doing this already

TallulahBetty · 31/10/2024 15:26

Ilovecakey · 31/10/2024 13:44

Don't panic, you can apply for a discretionary housing payment to pay off the arrears. Also offer to pay your rent and and extra £20 or so every time while you wait for it. If you are on benefits can't you ask to have your rent paid directly to your landlord?

Do you have ANY idea how difficult it is to get a DHP, even with genuine reasons unlike the OP? I apply for them for people pretty much every week. There is no way that OP will get one because she forgot to pay. No way.

ThisOldThang · 31/10/2024 15:25

If it's illegal for the council to not house them, I'm not sure there's much difference at all.

TallulahBetty · 31/10/2024 15:24

ThisOldThang · 31/10/2024 15:22

Unfortunately, I expect the taxpayer will pick up the tab. There are kids involved and it is illegal for them to be homeless and parents are fully aware of that fact.

The council will advise her to stay until she's formally evicted and then she will be emergency housed. They'll then almost certainly get a council house and the council will claim the rent direct from central government.

It's not illegal for children to be homeless. I think you mean that the LA have a legal duty to house them if they are legally homeless, which is quite different.

ThisOldThang · 31/10/2024 15:22

EagerExpert · 31/10/2024 14:12

The discretionary housing payment has eligibility criteria which doesn't cover people in receipt of benefits who 'forgot' to pay rent to a private landlord for 6 months and spent the money on something else.

I don't know what world some of these posters are living in where they're thinking yes, you already get benefits and if you whoopise forget to pay rent for six months but can't explain how you spent the extra thousands of pounds and didn't notice you were spending thousands of pounds more, the state will step in and pay off the arrears for you?

Unfortunately, I expect the taxpayer will pick up the tab. There are kids involved and it is illegal for them to be homeless and parents are fully aware of that fact.

The council will advise her to stay until she's formally evicted and then she will be emergency housed. They'll then almost certainly get a council house and the council will claim the rent direct from central government.

ballybooboo · 31/10/2024 15:21

SilverChampagne · 31/10/2024 14:25

Indeed 🤦‍♀️
That post is flabbergasting. “He’ll probably write off six months rent because he doesn’t really need it”.
What is wrong with some people’s thought processes?!

Some people genuinely dont need the money and it isn’t the main driver of their motives (the landlords didn’t notice for over6 months, I’m not suggesting this mean he doesn’t mind, but clearly it’s not the most important thing to him. It’s ok to think slightly differently to you isn’t it? Or is that not allowed?🚫

ballybooboo · 31/10/2024 15:17

DoreenonTill8 · 31/10/2024 14:17

What guilt trip a recently bereaved parent?

'Ah whoops I've spent all my rent, don't be mean and expect me to pay..
You don't really need it'

You’ve misunderstood what I’ve written. I said nothing about guilty tripping or manipulating, just an honest conversation.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 31/10/2024 15:12

We don't know how the LL will react but he hasn't noticed the missing money so he clearly isn't relying on it, and therefore might act generously towards a tenant who clearly has problems. It is somewhat in his interests, because evicting a tenant is a slow and ghastly process for both parties. He might be willing to accept just a proportion of the money owed if OP agrees to move out immediately, and accept an IOU for the rest to be paid whenever the tenant can manage it.
I'm saying this as a LL - I wouldn't want to pressurise a desperate tenant for rent, or ask the guarantor, but I would want the person to move out to somewhere they could more easily afford and sort out benefits rather than staying there accruing more and more unpaid rent.

BruFord · 31/10/2024 15:08

@EagerExpert I’m assuming that the guarantor won’t want to see the OP and her children homeless-I’m not saying that loaning money is financially sensible, just trying to come up with possible solutions.

I don’t honestly think that the landlord will agree to a long term payment plan with the OP unless she can come up with at least part of the arrears owed quickly, do you?

EagerExpert · 31/10/2024 15:02

BruFord · 31/10/2024 14:47

@StMarieforme Yes, I think that her guarantor is going to have to pay off some of the arrears tbh. That’s why I suggested that the OP checks her accounts ASAP to see what she can offer LL right away-and also speak to her guarantor.

Perhaps her guarantor can loan the money to pay the arrears and the OP can gradually repay her.

This thread seems to have a few people on it who think the LL doesn't need the money so should just let OP live there for free and also think the guarantor should do x, y or z to help the OP including loaning her the money?

Let's be honest, they'd be an idiot to loan the OP money. Anyone would be.

They were possibly an idiot to act as guarantor for OP in the first place but she's subsequently proven herself to be a really shitty financial risk in every way so no way would any sensible person offer to loan her the money to pay off her arrears.

Crikeyalmighty · 31/10/2024 14:55

I'm not a landlord and I rent and have done for 23 years- at the end of the day whilst agents can't discriminate against people on UC or with pets or even children, a private landlord can prioritise whoever he wants, especially if there are multiple people after the same properties.its one reason we don't have a dog - but we do Borrow my doggy instead. Once you are in it, and paying your rent unless you aren't keeping it up to scratch or not paying rent it's going to be harder without showing discrimination but the issue is that in the first place in private rentals a landlord has the choice whether to rent to you or not - yes it's indirect discrimination but it's also called 'choice' -

BruFord · 31/10/2024 14:47

@StMarieforme Yes, I think that her guarantor is going to have to pay off some of the arrears tbh. That’s why I suggested that the OP checks her accounts ASAP to see what she can offer LL right away-and also speak to her guarantor.

Perhaps her guarantor can loan the money to pay the arrears and the OP can gradually repay her.

StMarieforme · 31/10/2024 14:43

Thebellofstclements · 31/10/2024 04:05

Be honest with your landlord. State that you love living there and wish to remain. Could you pay him back an extra £50 a month until the debt has been repaid?
This is what my tenant did, she took on extra hours so her benefits were reduced reducing her over all income (madness) and panicked.
Your landlord doesn't sound like a soul-eating monster so may well agree to a gradual repayment scheme.
Changing tenants would cost him a lot!

But if she owes 6 times say £800 that's £4800 so paying back at £50 would take 96 months! He's not going to do that!

tuvamoodyson · 31/10/2024 14:43

MeMyCatsAndI · 31/10/2024 12:40

Isn't that discrimination...?

…or perhaps once bitten?

EagerExpert · 31/10/2024 14:42

ChallahPlaiter · 31/10/2024 14:34

(“What I do illegally anyway”).

Fixed it for you.

Not illegal for private landlords - see previous posts.

Bachboo · 31/10/2024 14:41

I don’t believe a single word of your tale and I feel very sorry for your friend!

EagerExpert · 31/10/2024 14:40

DoreenonTill8 · 31/10/2024 14:30

Do you not have to lack capacity for that? You could maybe ask a friend, but who'd want to take that responsibility on?!

The mental capacity act in law is very specific and wouldn't cover the OP.

Though it's honestly ridiculous for anyone to suggest that just because OP is bad with money, someone else should take over responsibility for her finances.

It's not at all the same as not having capacity to manage finances.

SilverChampagne · 31/10/2024 14:37

ChallahPlaiter · 31/10/2024 14:34

(“What I do illegally anyway”).

Fixed it for you.

So? You can rent your own property to whomever you please.

ChallahPlaiter · 31/10/2024 14:34

JaneFondue · 31/10/2024 12:34

I am a landlord, as it happens. I wouldnt evict but I would be pretty furious, and would take extra care and rent only to people not on UC. ( what I do anyway).

(“What I do illegally anyway”).

Fixed it for you.

Normallynumb · 31/10/2024 14:32

You need to be upfront with your landlord and I would make sure the guarantor knows before they are contacted
I have MH diagnosis myself so I do understand the effects on life
6 months is a very long time not to check your bank. You would've checked your benefits had gone in properly at the very least.
Offer to pay the landlord as much as you can afford today and are willing to set up a payment plan for your arrears
Having lost his son, I can understand why he hasn't informed you sooner
Contact CAB for further help

DoreenonTill8 · 31/10/2024 14:30

thecherryfox · 31/10/2024 14:26

I sympathise with you and I just want to ask, if your mental health is bad and you seem vulnerable, could you appoint a loved one or friend to handle your finances? If you didn’t realise that you had a huge chunk of extra finances that you’ve spent on other things instead of rent and bills, I think you need support with managing money. I’m sure you can get in contact with someone from your local council to help support you too? I hope it gets better op x

Do you not have to lack capacity for that? You could maybe ask a friend, but who'd want to take that responsibility on?!