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To be worried mistakes at work will cost my job?

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Kendra43 · 30/10/2024 17:53

I'll start by asking I'm burned out and going on holiday for a week this weekend.

I started a new job 4 months ago. Everything was going well and I had a great end of probationary meeting where the boss said she was 'very happy' with my work. I moved jobs because I wanted a better salary and new challenges.

Last week I made a couple of small mistakes, a typo in one email and scheduled a meeting at the wrong time in another. My first errors. She brought these up in our 1 to 1 this week, asking if I'm ok and saying we need to work on improving it after my holiday.

Today I sent an email to an important client and forget to attach something. I caught it in time/sent the file quickly and when I looked at Teams she had already messaged telling me I hadn't attached the document. I told her I had already rectified it and she said 'I messaged you telling you before you rectified it'.

I get the feeling she is very annoyed with me and I'm upset about being pulled up over small mistakes and for making them. AIBU?

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Thereisnomagicwand · 01/11/2024 09:52

I think your post is telling:

‘Ive also never been in a job where a manager is saying we need to improve this. I'm usually an exemplary employee that makes an occasional error.’

I think you are embarrassed and don’t like being ‘told off’. (I write this as someone who likes to think of themselves as a perfectionist and hates making mistakes as I’m my own worst critic.) You’ve made some mistakes - take the rap on the knuckle and move on.

Other posters are accusing your manager of micro-managing but, actually, they are doing what they are paid to do. It can be so embarrassing when someone in your team cocks up. Yours are minor mistakes but there have been a couple. Take this as a sign to pay a bit more attention. If you are stressed/overworked/suffering brain fog, use this opportunity to speak with your manager. It’s better to face things.

From another perspective, my job share is making multiple small mistakes and it’s leading to more stress on me. I have to double check what she’s done and correct her errors. Other staff bypass her and come only to me, increasing my workload. Our line manger should be having a conversation with her, as tough as they might be on both parties.

Have a lovely holiday. Don’t think about work, go back refreshed and move on from this.

ClafoutisSurprise · 01/11/2024 09:49

If the op were incompetent or slapdash, surely it would have been an issue in her previous job? Instead, it sounds like she was very highly regarded.

I have to say I’m struggling to think of many scenarios where a typo or the everyday failure to attach a file is evidence of a ‘poor attitude’. Certainly, getting things absolutely spot-on is important for some communications (I’d think badly of an advertisement or piece of legislation with grammatical errors). I send dozens of emails a day and would regard meticulously checking the vast majority of those to be a waste of time and energy. The truly important ones I dedicate more time to or even ask someone else to check before sending out.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 01/11/2024 07:35

socialdilemmawhattodo · 31/10/2024 21:11

How to tell me you are incompetent without you needing to type another word. Data accuracy is critical in many jobs. Lack of attention to detail is careless and reflects a poor attitude.

Oh honey.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 31/10/2024 21:11

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 31/10/2024 20:23

Great example of a bad manager.

How to tell me you are incompetent without you needing to type another word. Data accuracy is critical in many jobs. Lack of attention to detail is careless and reflects a poor attitude.

icecreamsundaeno5 · 31/10/2024 20:38

For me, it would depend on how these things are being raised.

Someone does need to tell you if you forgot an attachment.

Someone does need to tell you if you arrange a meeting for the wrong time.

Personally, I wouldn't mention a typo if it was a one-off and didn't alter any important meaning or detail.

Telling you is perfectly fine imo - minor errors that you need to know about so you can rectify.

If they're presented as big, serious issues then that isn't fair or supportive imo.

SqueakyDoor · 31/10/2024 20:38

Guaranteed, @Kendra43 if I had sight of even 20% of her emails, documents or presentations, I'd find a typo. It's my job. I'd find them. Wish I could have at her on your behalf, it would be glorious

TheWildZebra · 31/10/2024 20:38

Add the two minute email send delay into your outbox. It’s saved my skin 100s of times - I am not good at attention to detail!

icecreamsundaeno5 · 31/10/2024 20:35

anon666 · 31/10/2024 20:31

This is nitpicking and bullying to be honest.

These are small, easily made human errors. No-one is expected to be perfect.

The one that worries me is the "I emailed you before you attached it".

That's nasty. It's like calling you a liar. 😔

I think you might want to talk to her about her management style but it sounds like she's fond of picking on people. This needs firm boundary of what you are amd aren't expected to put up with in terms of micromanagement.

Surely 'I emailed before you rectified it' is just her explaining that she sent her email - even if op didn't see or read it - before op issued the new email with the attachment.

anon666 · 31/10/2024 20:31

This is nitpicking and bullying to be honest.

These are small, easily made human errors. No-one is expected to be perfect.

The one that worries me is the "I emailed you before you attached it".

That's nasty. It's like calling you a liar. 😔

I think you might want to talk to her about her management style but it sounds like she's fond of picking on people. This needs firm boundary of what you are amd aren't expected to put up with in terms of micromanagement.

icecreamsundaeno5 · 31/10/2024 20:31

These would be minor mistakes at my place of work op.

Depending on your role, you might be told about them - they are mistakes after all - but it wouldn't be a 'telling off.'

That said, are you sure you're not being very sensitive? It sounds as if she just told you that you'd forgotten the attachment, because you had. It would be a bit daft for her to notice something was missing and not tell you.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 31/10/2024 20:23

socialdilemmawhattodo · 31/10/2024 20:12

Or people who work in industries where quality matters. Casual, particularly around data, is never good enough.

Great example of a bad manager.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 31/10/2024 20:12

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 30/10/2024 19:34

Some real nightmare managers on this thread.

OP if you're giving us the whole story, red flags that you've got a very poor manager with micromanagement tendencies. Keep on your guard.

Or people who work in industries where quality matters. Casual, particularly around data, is never good enough.

KarmaKarmaKarm · 31/10/2024 20:00

Kendra43 · 30/10/2024 18:24

@CasuirDubh thank you.

It's because I take pride in my work that I'm so upset.

@Kendra43 you can add a rule to Outlook to delay email sending by a minute. Means you can retrieve last minute errors from the outbox and fix before they are actually sent. I’m prone to only realising I’ve missed something as soon as I hit send

BobbyBiscuits · 31/10/2024 19:42

This type of extreme micromanaging isn't helpful. You forgot to attach something then immediately sent it through. I honestly don't think the client is going to cease doing business with you over that? It must feel like people are breathing down your neck.
Surely she's got better things to do than check your every email and reprimand you in a one to one meeting over a single typo?
I'd be wanting to leave.

NormaNormalPants · 31/10/2024 19:38

Agree these would be minor things in my workplace. Could it actually be coming from a place of care? I know if one of my team suddenly started making a bunch of silly mistakes that I knew they wouldn’t normally make I’d want to check in to make sure everything is ok.

ClafoutisSurprise · 31/10/2024 19:28

I couldn’t work anywhere where such errors were even commented on, let alone considered serious.

I triple and quadruple check very important documents that are going to be legally binding. Pretty much everything else is just not going to be meticulously checked, whether internal or external, and I know from rereading email chains later on that I do make cutting and pasting and other errors. Not been a problem in twenty years of working.

itsgettingweird · 31/10/2024 19:16

I once sent my boss an email titled with the forms I was sending and simply wrote in the email "please find attached".

She sent me one back saying - "I don't think they are" 😂

To which I replied "whoops - that killed the efficient email I tried to send - I've attached them now".

No one died. It wasn't the end of the world. It didn't change anything.

To err is human.

itsgettingweird · 31/10/2024 19:13

BirthdayRainbow · 30/10/2024 17:55

If she noticed and told you before you sent it it sounds like she is micro managing you and checking up on you.

Exactly my first thought!

Echobelly · 31/10/2024 19:05

Wow, that sounds like micromanaging, those are things that happen quite frequently and won't cost the business time or money. You shouldn't lose your job because of them but it's hard to say if the manager is deciding to pick you up on such small details.

pollymere · 31/10/2024 19:00

I've worked for Solicitors and for high profile folk where even small mistakes matter hugely. Often this is reflected in the salary you receive. I went for a job with a member of the Cabinet and realised how much pressure I'd be under to ensure everything was always perfectly done.

Don't fret but double check, triple check things before sending emails or organising meetings. It sounds odd but slow down. It's better to do things slower and be accurate than correct a rushed mistake.

mollyfolk · 31/10/2024 01:33

Sometimes I find the most senior of people - and I am specifically thinking here of someone who is an actual genius and amazing at her job - can constantly send emails without the attachments!

These would be small sweats where I work anyway. And she sounds like an awful micro manager.

Covidbegone · 31/10/2024 00:19

She sounds like a nightmare manager - you are human, you will make minor errors as most people do. She sounds controlling. Keep your eye out for new opportunities. Good luck

EBearhug · 31/10/2024 00:06

I'm leaving a job tomorrow because of a micromanager,only 5 months in. (I have got another one to go to.) Obviously when you're new, you need more guidance, but I am not totally inexperienced, just don't know how things are done here.

There needs to be room to make mistakes- it's how we learn. I have only made minor ones not brought down a production server or anything. Pretty much everyone has sent and received mails which are missing an attachment. It's only s big deal if you do it repeatedly.

You might be fine after your holiday. If not - I'd be looking for something else.

HollyIvie · 30/10/2024 23:42

In a previous job I had a manager like this. Every email with spelling mistakes was picked up. Certainly made me double and triple check everything that was sent!

Motnight · 30/10/2024 22:51

Gardennomes · 30/10/2024 22:41

You need a break, OP. Can you take some time off?

To help with any mistakes, there's a handy review tool on Outlook which can read your email out loud. I've spotted the odd mistake this way when just reading it again has missed it. I tend only to use it on external emails, as otherwise I'd go mad.

I'd also be wary of a micro manager. Maybe they'll back off once you've proved yourself worthy?! Here's hoping.

It's in Op's first line re going on holiday.

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