Page 3 | To think Reeves being the first female chancellor isn't something to brag about?

brislereg · 2024-10-30T15:49:49+00:00

I'm not unhappy about the budget but her and Starmer have both cited this as a milestone, apparently forgetting that the Tories have had three female leaders who have been PMs whilst Labour have had none. I really don't think as a party they are as much of a friend to women that they claim to be.

angellinaballerina7 · 30/10/2024 16:36

I think it’s a win. She should be proud. Regardless of the party in power, I hope we see more women in significant roles - 3 PMs and a chancellor isn’t enough yet, but you have to start somewhere so it can only get better.

BIWI · 30/10/2024 16:29

rwalker · 30/10/2024 16:18

if we want people to be recognised for their merits then we need to leave gender out of it

I'm sure you meant 'sex' rather than 'gender'?

username7891 · 30/10/2024 16:29

brislereg · 30/10/2024 16:21

Actually, many women felt politically homeless in recent years because those whose political instincts leaned towards Labour were not able to support their position on women's rights. Rosie Duffield was left her own party partly for these reasons. People like Wes Streeting are working hard to put this right but there is still understandable skepticism which makes this portrayal of them as smashing the glass ceiling today a bit galling.

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Someone who actually supported women's rights would see this as a win.

To crow about Tories being on the side of women means that your head is so far in the sand, you're looking at Australia. It's all a bit desperate.

Then again, someone on here complained about Starmer living for free at No 10, so nothing surprises me.

MrsMurphyIWish · 30/10/2024 16:29

username7891 · 30/10/2024 16:18

Starmer appointed a record 11 women to his cabinet including the first chancellor of the exchequer. The first female chancellor is a big win for women, not just a personal win.

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Absolutely this. My DD turned a teenager on the day Labour won and at her birthday dinner her aunt and I spoke optimistically about the future of public services and the profile of women (family of teachers - mainly a female career).

Birdscratch · 30/10/2024 16:27

rwalker · 30/10/2024 16:18

if we want people to be recognised for their merits then we need to leave gender out of it

Over 800 years and this is the first woman to do the job.

How in the actual fuck can you ‘leave gender out’ of that?

Colourfulduvets · 30/10/2024 16:25

brislereg · 30/10/2024 16:23

I agree two of the three were awful but they were women. And they might be about to have another one.

Meanwhile Labour have had none. It doesn't look great for an apparently progressive party.

Are you just bored?
Or is that the budget just wasn't bad enough for you to rage about?

You really are clutching at straws with this thread!

Icedbear · 30/10/2024 16:24

DrizzleMySwizzle · 30/10/2024 16:07

Ah yes, the great PM Liz Truss. A milestone for female achievement.

I feel honoured just to be alive at the same time as that political titan.

#blessed

And possibly the most misogynist PM we've ever had in Thatcher

pinotnow · 30/10/2024 16:23

I mean you only have to tune into the parliament channel for 10 minutes at pmqs to see which benches are more representative of minority groups. It certainly isn't the Tories. Oceans of white middle - aged men there - at least, it was an ocean before July. Now more like a medium sized lake.

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brislereg · 30/10/2024 16:23

I agree two of the three were awful but they were women. And they might be about to have another one.

Meanwhile Labour have had none. It doesn't look great for an apparently progressive party.

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Colourfulduvets · 30/10/2024 16:23

lemonmeringueno3 · 30/10/2024 16:13

I like her, liked her budget and think it is in fact something to be proud of.

Even if you don't vote Labour, it is an important step.

Do people have to snipe at everything.

This, 100%!

HecatesBees · 30/10/2024 16:21

DrizzleMySwizzle · 30/10/2024 16:07

Ah yes, the great PM Liz Truss. A milestone for female achievement.

I feel honoured just to be alive at the same time as that political titan.

#blessed

Thoughts and prayers love, thoughts and prayers

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brislereg · 30/10/2024 16:21

Icedbear · 30/10/2024 16:16

Jesus, are we still trying to shoe horn this one in? Boris and his gang were fantastic for women, really loved and respected women and women's rights and freedoms, everyone of them 🤔

Actually, many women felt politically homeless in recent years because those whose political instincts leaned towards Labour were not able to support their position on women's rights. Rosie Duffield was left her own party partly for these reasons. People like Wes Streeting are working hard to put this right but there is still understandable skepticism which makes this portrayal of them as smashing the glass ceiling today a bit galling.

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pinotnow · 30/10/2024 16:20

When you look at who the three leaders were it takes the shine off massively - one basically made herself as masculine as possible and shafted women in as many ways as she could , one was put in place by men as it was a poisoned chalice and then absolutely shat upon by those same men and bullied by them, and the other was, well, Luz Truss...

The women Labour have had in powerful positions have been genuinely impressive.

ichundich · 30/10/2024 16:20

Her sex is neither here nor there for me. That I'm worse off on the other hand...

ThatsNotMyTeen · 30/10/2024 16:19

Regardless of your views of her or her budget, it was a truly historic moment.

username7891 · 30/10/2024 16:18

brislereg · 30/10/2024 16:11

I did not say Reeves should not be proud of her achievement. On a personal level of course it is a big deal.

But the fact is that Labour are sadly quite a bit behind the Tories when it comes to representation of women and minorities in the top roles, so whilst this is a step forward, they have a long way to go and I think it's disingenuous for them to brag about it.

Starmer appointed a record 11 women to his cabinet including the first chancellor of the exchequer. The first female chancellor is a big win for women, not just a personal win.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 30/10/2024 16:18

DrizzleMySwizzle · 30/10/2024 16:07

Ah yes, the great PM Liz Truss. A milestone for female achievement.

I feel honoured just to be alive at the same time as that political titan.

#blessed

rwalker · 30/10/2024 16:18

if we want people to be recognised for their merits then we need to leave gender out of it

BIWI · 30/10/2024 16:17

Daft OP.

Icedbear · 30/10/2024 16:16

Jesus, are we still trying to shoe horn this one in? Boris and his gang were fantastic for women, really loved and respected women and women's rights and freedoms, everyone of them 🤔

RafaistheKingofClay · 30/10/2024 16:16

It’s an historic moment for the country not just the Labour Party. Do you think they should have just brushed over it without mentioning it?

Changingplace · 30/10/2024 16:15

Lengokengo · 30/10/2024 15:54

I am very pleased about having a female chancellor. And one who is actually qualified to be one.

Absolutely this!

lemonmeringueno3 · 30/10/2024 16:13

I like her, liked her budget and think it is in fact something to be proud of.

Even if you don't vote Labour, it is an important step.

Do people have to snipe at everything.

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brislereg · 30/10/2024 16:11

I did not say Reeves should not be proud of her achievement. On a personal level of course it is a big deal.

But the fact is that Labour are sadly quite a bit behind the Tories when it comes to representation of women and minorities in the top roles, so whilst this is a step forward, they have a long way to go and I think it's disingenuous for them to brag about it.

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camelfinger · 30/10/2024 16:10

I’m glad she pointed it out. I think RR pitched it right; I’m hoping that she can inspire girls to pursue economic careers, even if indirectly.