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£3 busfares will ruin me

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Deportationsensation · 30/10/2024 14:56

Busfare cap to increase to £3. That’s £6 a day for buses. £10 extra a week.

My food budget for 1 person is £10 a week. So that’s my food money gone to pay for buses.

I can’t work more hours. I do what I can in working part time because I have health issues that would not qualify for PIP but affect me every day. Not qualifying for any benefits other than probably food bank use. Which I will now have to do.

AIBU to just start wondering what is the point? Life isn’t supposed to be like this. Some of us are just trying to survive with no enjoyment in life at all.

OP posts:
Rubberducksallround · 30/10/2024 19:54

Op, apologies if this has already been suggested earlier in the thread, but can you make an application for Access to Work? They help employers fund adaptations in the work place to help keep people with disabilities and health conditions in the workplace (part time counts!). I've heard of them funding transport to work which is the main reason I thought they might be able to help.

Runssometimes · 30/10/2024 19:36

@AutumnLeaves24

firstly where in my post did I specifically single out cars? Although to be fair they do make up the vast amount of traffic.

But to answer your points - according to the most recent data available on the Government website, detailing figures of all road accidents in the UK, of the 167,375 accidents in 2020 only 2,213 involved a bus or coach. For accidents involving minibuses, the number was even lower, at 225.

and buses are more efficient use of road space to move more people round so they cause very few delays and take up less space per person.

there isn’t more recent data because of the whole made up war on motorists narrative but there’s estimates from other countries and I can tell you the costs of subsiding motor vehicles hasn’t gone down.

and in terms of space, storing and parking vehicles takes up a huge amount of public space. This country is very motonormative and has failed to invest in travel infrastructure - way behind other countries.

I feel for OP it’s the poorest people that don’t own their own vehicles and rely on public transport and I think it’s unequal that they have to pay more.

I don’t actually use buses much. I tend to get around by bike or train and no longer own a car (but I did for years. I am lucky enough to live somewhere where this is possible and I just hire a car when I do need one. Last three years that’s actually only been six times.

Schmellywelly · 30/10/2024 19:31

I've just been having a convo with my DD who is 11 as I have a debilitating condition causing daily pain since I was a young child that is visible and her classmates often ask for details. My DD couldn't understand why I just get on with life regardless of the pain until I explained sometimes there is no other option, regardless of everything you just have to keep moving forward, one step at a time. Im lucky that i have a partner, my DH works hard and has a good job but we live in an expensive area with DC in school, so moving isn't an option, so when I got to the point the pain was too bad I couldn't do a regular job, I started my own business just to add something to the pot. Is there a hobby or craft you enjoy that could earn you some extra money?
If working extra hours caused suicidal thoughts, have you engaged with Therapy? Most NHS trusts have Talking Therapies you can self refer to. I've done this in the past and it's been very helpful. There is usually a long wait so sooner you refer the better.

JaneEyreLaughing · 30/10/2024 19:28

PandoraSox · 30/10/2024 17:57

I suppose some quite angry or patronising people

Oh the irony! I am guessing Miss Eyre is not happy today.

Have you read the full thread? All is not what it seems.

No and Net Zero isn't quite all that it seems either.

Luckily, old Miliband and his band of little green men aren't always able to join up the dots and sometimes a glaring error is made-such as putting up bus fares while telling us that cars are leading to the immediate burning of the planet.

If the planet is in dire need of net zero to the extent that he must have a budget of billions and a green tax must be imposed on energy bills, then why oh why is the price of public transport being put up.

Thank goodness, they can't do joined up thinking or even more would swallow their agenda! Thank goodness for the numb nuts in charge who haven't got the wit to cover their arse and expose the horrid sight from time to time.

HecatesBees · 30/10/2024 19:26

Deportationsensation · 30/10/2024 18:51

mumsnet never fails.

I have replied because I was WORKING.

Hair extensions were a gift because having nicer hair is the one thing that makes me feel better since I can’t afford new clothes etc all the time. theyre bought for me each year by my DM for my birthday.

Yes budget is usually is £15 but is now £10 as I do an extra day at work (same hours just spread out) meaning additional busfare.

and to one of the first posters who said I should work more hours, the last time I did that things got so bad I attempted suicide.

I don’t know why this site claims to be supportive. Vipers indeed.

If you want supportive then

  1. aibu is not the place for you and

  2. when you complain about not having enough money to exist, but also post "Im high maintenance, eyelashes, hair extensions the lot." Then people will take you at your word...

CluelessAboutBiology · 30/10/2024 19:24

I recently had to travel to work by public transport for a few weeks, as I wasn’t able to drive. The journey was a mixture of trains and buses. One bus journey was £2 a time but the other bus was operated by a different company who weren’t participating in the capped prices, so was £7 a trip.

Seasmoke · 30/10/2024 19:23

The bus fare cap was extended month to month though, due to run out again in December. You can't really rely on a temporary bus fare cap if you can't afford to get to work. Also the minimum wage is going up by more than £2 a day, plus bus passes etc as others said. Where I live there are flexible bus passes.

JeremiahBullfrog · 30/10/2024 19:19

Let's not forget that the £2 cap is a very recent thing and was, by the standards of government transport subsidies, extremely generous.

Efrogwraig · 30/10/2024 19:16

UltraHorse · 30/10/2024 15:30

Does anyone know what Rachel actually said about people trying to buy their homes if you live in Social housing I didn't get it Angela bought hers she could give back the money she made maybe I'm sure she's ok financially what with the freebies and MPs perks

Councils will receive all the money from Right to Buy purchases & be able to use it to build more houses.

coffeesaveslives · 30/10/2024 19:14

Why doesn't your mother feed you instead of buying you hair extensions? Hmm

CatAndHisKit · 30/10/2024 19:12

I'm hoping it's a cap as in the max amount, not a minimum fare.
It's ridiculous now that one to three stops costs 2 pounds (London is different and much better as you pay less fir even a few buses in one hour) !
People who go further really benefit wjether it's 2 or 3 pounds cap, so I think it's fair to raise the max fare if they lower the minimal level!

Efrogwraig · 30/10/2024 19:12

CoralReader · 30/10/2024 14:59

Would a bus pass be more efficient?

That involves a large outlay. Not always possible for someone with a low income.

V0xPopuli · 30/10/2024 19:11

To be honest if my mother wanted to buy me hair extensions for my birthday and I'd only £10 for a weeks food because working more made me suicidal, I'd ask my mother to spend the money either on:

  • food
  • therapy
Soapy23 · 30/10/2024 19:10

Can you condense your hours so you work them over 3 days instead of 5? What do you do? Is there anyone who can give you a lift?

AncientAndModern1 · 30/10/2024 19:09

dawngreen · 30/10/2024 18:28

Try looking for a food pantry near you. My local one ppl pay £6 a week, and can get like 2 bags of food a week. Have had £25 food voucher from them too, and help with grants for a oven. Foodbanks give 3 days worth of food, and you have to get a voucher to visit. Citizens Advice or Money-buddies are good for debt help too.

Do they also offer free lash extensions?

PandoraSox · 30/10/2024 19:08

Does your DM know you can't afford to eat properly, OP? Can she help you?

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 30/10/2024 19:04

Deportationsensation · 30/10/2024 18:51

mumsnet never fails.

I have replied because I was WORKING.

Hair extensions were a gift because having nicer hair is the one thing that makes me feel better since I can’t afford new clothes etc all the time. theyre bought for me each year by my DM for my birthday.

Yes budget is usually is £15 but is now £10 as I do an extra day at work (same hours just spread out) meaning additional busfare.

and to one of the first posters who said I should work more hours, the last time I did that things got so bad I attempted suicide.

I don’t know why this site claims to be supportive. Vipers indeed.

Who buys your fake lashes for you?

Why do you describe yourself as high maintenance when you're only gifted hair extensions once a year?

How come you can take a bunch of children to a park and frolic in the dry leaves with them but you can't work more?

Tetchypants · 30/10/2024 19:04

Imagine choosing eyelashes over food

TigerRag · 30/10/2024 19:02

HalloweenHaribo · 30/10/2024 18:59

OP, if you're mentally unwell and also have other health issues that prevent you working more, are you sure you can't get PIP?

Perhaps you just need someone to help you with the form?

PIP has nothing to do with work

LePetitMaman · 30/10/2024 19:00

Deportationsensation · 30/10/2024 18:51

mumsnet never fails.

I have replied because I was WORKING.

Hair extensions were a gift because having nicer hair is the one thing that makes me feel better since I can’t afford new clothes etc all the time. theyre bought for me each year by my DM for my birthday.

Yes budget is usually is £15 but is now £10 as I do an extra day at work (same hours just spread out) meaning additional busfare.

and to one of the first posters who said I should work more hours, the last time I did that things got so bad I attempted suicide.

I don’t know why this site claims to be supportive. Vipers indeed.

So why exactly do you not qualify for universal credit?

HalloweenHaribo · 30/10/2024 18:59

OP, if you're mentally unwell and also have other health issues that prevent you working more, are you sure you can't get PIP?

Perhaps you just need someone to help you with the form?

Cornercandy · 30/10/2024 18:59

It’s a cap.

ketchuptom · 30/10/2024 18:54

your hair extensions were a gift?

Just to remind you

Im high maintenance, eyelashes, hair extensions the lot.

AutumnLeaves24 · 30/10/2024 18:53

Runssometimes · 30/10/2024 18:18

@AutumnLeaves24

a report from the cabinet office 2009 had these figures

COSTS
Road building and maintenance £9bn
Excess delays £10.9bn
Accidents £8.9bn
Poor air quality £7bn
Physical inactivity £9,8bn
Greenhouse gas emissions £2bn
Water pollution £5bn
Noise pollution £5bn
Total £57.6bn

INCOME
Vehicle excise duty £5.4bn
Fuel duty £24.9bn
Other taxes £17.8bn (VAT on fuel, car sales)
Total £48.1bn

Shortfall £9.5bn/year

and fuel duty has not increased since 2014. Public transport goes up every year. AND active travel infrastructure investment has actually been cut and is literally a fraction of what is spent on road infrastructure,

that’s also before you account for the costs of pollution on health,

remember that E-vehicles generate no VEH but as they are so heavy it’s thought that they damage the roads more which is something we all pay for to repair.

@Runssometimes

2009, that's a long time back now.

besides do you have magical busses that don't use roads, cause delays, cause accidents or use/ cause any of the other 'costs' listed £20.9 m on delays. What a mental thing to blame on cars!

you as a bus user do not subsidise me as a car driver.

Deportationsensation · 30/10/2024 18:51

mumsnet never fails.

I have replied because I was WORKING.

Hair extensions were a gift because having nicer hair is the one thing that makes me feel better since I can’t afford new clothes etc all the time. theyre bought for me each year by my DM for my birthday.

Yes budget is usually is £15 but is now £10 as I do an extra day at work (same hours just spread out) meaning additional busfare.

and to one of the first posters who said I should work more hours, the last time I did that things got so bad I attempted suicide.

I don’t know why this site claims to be supportive. Vipers indeed.

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