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PrimatePantaloons · 30/10/2024 14:51

On a family day out buying hot drinks/ snacks from a van. I’d got my drinks/ snacks already but spotted the woman who had just served me pluck a hair out of her face with her fingers nails, look at it and then flick it off in a random direction…

I am very overly sensitive to this sort of stuff/ borderline obsessive but this is mainstream gross isn’t it?

I see this sort of stuff all the time and don’t get stuff for myself when out and about, but sometimes I wonder what would happen if I asked people to wash their hands after I’ve seen them doing something like this?

The other day in Costa I saw a guy scratch the inside of his ear with his little finger and then put a lid on someone’s take away coffee without washing his hands? That’s gross too right?

I feel like my perspective is skewed because of my anxiety about this type of thing, which I am having therapy for. As part of this I’m trying to recalibrate what is/ is not acceptable.

The woman from today didn’t even try and hide it… she was chatting to the next customer in the queue whilst admiring this chin hair she had just pulled out and then literally just flicked it off. It could have landed anywhere. That is gross, yes?

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PrimatePantaloons · 01/11/2024 18:24

This is why I’m in therapy… it used to not bother me but now if our school has a “stay and play” session I’m the parent stood with their hands in their pockets watching my DS play with the building blocks and puzzles, etc… I do normally manage to have a word with myself and play with him before the end of the session but then it’s hand sanitizer as soon as I get back to the car, massive handwash when I get home - I’ve even been know to get changed and shove my clothes in the wash if I had to sit on the floor or even a chair… it’s so bad.

@PrimatePantaloons

hand sanitising and a good hand wash when home is normal in that kind of situation.
most of us would do that
give yourself a break 💐

PrimatePantaloons · 01/11/2024 18:24

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 30/10/2024 16:28

Meh. People touch things, including their hair, face, clothes etc all the time. In reality it's hard not to, because they are often subconscious movements. There's no point in fretting about the examples you happen to notice, because there will be a gazillion other things you touch/buy/eat/drink day-in day-out that have been touched by umpteen other people whose hands might have been god knows where. That's what immune systems are for!

It doesn't bother me in the slightest, but then I spend all day in a school (dirty places!) and will happily eat cakes from bake sales made by grubby-fingered children. I've made it to the ripe old age of 53 without suffering any consequences.

This is why I’m in therapy… it used to not bother me but now if our school has a “stay and play” session I’m the parent stood with their hands in their pockets watching my DS play with the building blocks and puzzles, etc… I do normally manage to have a word with myself and play with him before the end of the session but then it’s hand sanitizer as soon as I get back to the car, massive handwash when I get home - I’ve even been know to get changed and shove my clothes in the wash if I had to sit on the floor or even a chair… it’s so bad.

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ObieJoyful · 01/11/2024 17:59

I once refused an order in Burger King because the man making my kids’ burgers pinched his nose in the way you would with a tissue, but without the tissue 🤢.

VK456 · 01/11/2024 10:10

My pet hate is when people cough into their hand or blow their nose into a rapidly wittering tissue and do nothing about washing their hands.

Thereisnomagicwand · 01/11/2024 09:27

I think a big issue is there is a lack of training nowadays. I was a silver-service waitress as a teenager under a scary Sicilian maitre d’. It was a mediocre hotel but he took pride in his work and made sure we were a professional team. As another poster recognised, younger workers now don’t have the same sort of guidance and service generally is dire. It doesn’t enter their mind not to touch their face, hair, money etc before preparing food.

One of my teen DC works in a restaurant and his colleagues just don’t seem to understand how they should interact with customers. They are miserable as sin, don’t get the concept of welcoming people or making small talk and because of this the place is devoid of atmosphere. The management needs to sort it out but they just treat the youngsters as a never-ending supply of serfs. They pay them peanuts but also fail to value them.

We were served recently at the local Wagamama by a lad with the most gross dirty long fingernails I’ve ever seen! Why has no one told him to sort it out?! I think society in general is to blame as people are too scared to call out bad practices and we are instilling in our children the right of self expression at the expense of community cohesion and proper behaviours.

What happened to customer is king?!

Barney60 · 01/11/2024 09:09

Totally with you on this, also people that serve food with huge long painted nails, recently out to eat, lady brought plate to table her thumb nail was in my meal, i refused to eat it, this really grosses me out especially after doing courses of what harbours in nails and on hands from not washing correctly.

CatsnCoffeeetal · 01/11/2024 07:04

I’ve noticed that too. One thing I hear regularly, is people (Warning: stop reading now if you’re sensitive about bodily fluids), snorting up a glob of phlegm. It happens when I’m in shops, walking down the street etc. 🤢

CatsnCoffeeetal · 01/11/2024 06:53

I would have turned away and gone hungry rather than buy anything to eat from there. I wonder what the opinion would be of someone who trains catering staff in hygiene practices?
People saying you’re unlikely to be infected by eating something served to you this way! They just don’t get it. Probably, the same ones who tell arachnophobes that (big,hairy house) spider won’t hurt them!

HelloYouGuys · 01/11/2024 05:26

I absolutely bat all of my eyelids at all of these things… in fact I wish I had more eyelids so that I could bat all of those as well.

Thank you... you so made me smile!

I think that I would be pretty disgusted by seeing this too.
I actively avoid buying food out if possible.
If I do "have to", then I try and switch off that anxiety path, else if I didn't, I'd prob be sick.
Also I do try to employ the thought that I'm likely not gong to die from such things.
It's really not easy, and I don't think I'm a particularly sensitive person either.

I've got no practical answers, I do try to psyche myself up into accepting these things happen, and probably worse things happen behind the scenes that you can't see.... it gets worse, doesn't it?

Us humans can be pretty unbelievable 🤮

Gingerlingerlonger · 01/11/2024 03:41

I'm absolutely with you on this but, unfortunately, it is my problem. If it were that big a danger, more people would be dropping like flies. The fact of the matter is, they are not. I can't eat out because I know how gross people are. I used to be a waitress and I was the only one I the place who left the sink wet after taking a piss. That, and many other things I saw there, didn't help. In fact, it might be the cause because I was never bothered before then. Made it frigging difficult when I've been in hospital. Living on two pots of yogurt a day wasn't great for recovery, I can tell you. I had to sign myself out before I starved to death. People say, you'd eat it if you were starving. Not always!

Onlyvisiting · 01/11/2024 03:07

Startinganew32 · 30/10/2024 15:45

Not sure what is so gross about it. Is it that you think the hair went in uncovered food? Or is it just that she plucked it out with her fingers? Because it is surely then equally gross to touch your headhair, which a lot of people do constantly. And handling coins would be a lot more disgusting as so many people have handled them and there are likely to be fecal bacteria on them. But nobody seems to bat an eyelid at that.

As someone who handles food as part of their job- yes, you should be bothered if they touch their headhair.
If you follow food hygiene guidelines then you shouldn't have your hands near for head/face/mouth while handling food. Or handles money then food. The risk may be fairly low, but the issue is bacteria from your body eg staphylococcus aureus being transferred onto your food.
The hair itself is just manky rather than a contamination issue as such.
Sadly people (who should know bwcasue it is their job) are terrible about recognising cross contamination.

And to anothe poster- those vans should all have a mobile handwashing unit inside.

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DisabledDemon · 01/11/2024 02:25

Even when people have washed their hands, they often don't do it properly. Briefly introducing your hands to a bit of soap and water does not do the job!

CrowleyKitten · 01/11/2024 01:24

The13thFairy · 30/10/2024 17:02

Aeons ago I did a food safety certificate. First, the importance of hand washing. There we were, sitting around, looking somewhat chipper. The guy running it said, "I'm going to give you a minute to think about all the things you do with your hands in the course of a day. From the moment your eyes open in the morning to when they close at night ~ and if you have children, or pets, or lovers, remember to think about all the things your hands do with them, in the course of a day." And then the bastard looked at his watch and timed off one minute. "Time's up," he said. We were looking a bit green by then, and I was regarding my own hands as radioactive, never mind anyone else's. It was a good few years before I could eat in a cafe or restaurant after that class. But I could wash my hands for England.

when I was a dental nurse, in training, they sprayed our hands, and showed us under UV light where they were glowing. then we had to go and wash our hands, and put them back under the light to see what we'd missed.
it really made you aware of the areas that you need to make sure of washing, that are easily left contaminated, even after what seems like a thorough hand wash.

CrowleyKitten · 01/11/2024 01:06

DayTimeRoses · 30/10/2024 15:21

Not unreasonable. It's absolutely grim.

My approach when I see things like this is to reconcile that it happens all the time, I have no control over it, and I'm probably not going to die. But it still absolutely grosses me out.

I was once escorted out of Subway for suggesting that the lady serving should change her gloves between handling one customer's money and then starting on the next customers sandwich. This was nearly twenty years ago but it still irks me. I have been boycotting Subway ever since.

I'm sure that they're required to change gloves. or have someone else handling money, at the end of the counter to the ones making the sandwich, when it's busier.
I've not seen this happening. they do vary in how much they enforce certain rules (and how generous or stingy they are with toppings, one near us is TERRIBLE. I had onions and peppers on mine, and it was two half onion rings, broken up, and two bits of pepper broken up. the others are MUCH less stingy)
but, I haven't seen any handle cash with the gloves still on, and I haven't seen anyone leave them on afterwards.
they AREN'T all great at avoiding touching the veg after the meat. some are better at that than others. but they definitely seem to have rules in place about when to change gloves, and some enforce it better than others

CrowleyKitten · 01/11/2024 00:59

Yoonimum · 31/10/2024 19:15

Yep, gross. I bought a brownie from a stall at a local fair; the woman licked her fingers to open the paper bag and then I also noticed her absolutely filthy nails (no gloves). It all happened so fast that she handed me the cake and I felt obliged to pay but it went straight in the bin. I did report it to the organisers and suggested the business was not invited back to the next fair.

yeah, despite my post above, that WOULD bother me. licking your fingers to handle paper has always bothered me though. even as a small child that didn't even know about potential contamination risks.
a teacher at primary school would do that to turn pages, and it always bothered me a lot. if it was just the nails, I'd probably let it slide, but not the finger licking and paper

CrowleyKitten · 01/11/2024 00:56

yes, it's gross. but there's a whole load of gross stuff going on in food prep that you don't see, and it's mostly harmless. just offputting.
I just don't let it bother me too much. there's always going to be people scratching and picking at themselves, or not washing their hands well, and so on. but for the most part, it's out of sight, out of mind.
it's going to be going on in nice eateries too, not just fast food vans.

it always annoys me when on come dine with me, the narrator says things like "excuse fingers" when someone is touching the food they're preparing, as if they are wearing gloves to prepare food in restaurants. they're not. do you think Gordon Ramsey is wearing gloves when he handles the food? not being expensive doesn't make it more unpleasant when the staff touch it.

I'm quite relaxed about that sort of thing though. I hope people do their best to be hygienic. but these things are going to happen at least occasionally.

I'm the sort of person who, if I find a single hair in my food, I'll just pull it out of my mouth and put it on table. no, it's not pleasant, but it's hard to prevent completely. and it's just hair. if there are several, I'd mention it. just the odd one, no biggie. these things happen. if it was a fingernail or a plaster or something, I'd definitely raise the issue. but something like that is just one of those things that happens.

I'm probably less squeamish than most, and if you SEE it, yes it's offputting. but there's probably loads of similar stuff going on we never see, and it's not hurting us

Toptops · 31/10/2024 21:25

This post is making me want to touch my face, hair, chin, ears like crazy

underhedges · 31/10/2024 20:21

A man who was serving behind a counter in a coffee shop kept coughing into his hand and then went to make me a pot of tea. I politely pointed out he'd coughed multiple times into his hand and asked him to wash them. He took it well and later came over and apologised and we had a good conversation about other things. I wasn't looking for an apology but I was grateful he'd taken my request gracefully. You'd have thought after covid that people would be more aware of how to be hygienic, particularly when in a job serving others.

I agree with you OP.

tommyhoundmum · 31/10/2024 19:34

Today, on the Tube the young woman next to me was making a big meal of picking her nose and eating it. When she started on her other nostril I heard myself say politely "Will you please stop doing that?" She said "What am I doing?" I said "Picking your nose". She stopped. She had earphones on and her phone and was totally oblivious to the others in the carriage . I felt sick. No doubt someone on here will say I was dreadful.

Yoonimum · 31/10/2024 19:15

Yep, gross. I bought a brownie from a stall at a local fair; the woman licked her fingers to open the paper bag and then I also noticed her absolutely filthy nails (no gloves). It all happened so fast that she handed me the cake and I felt obliged to pay but it went straight in the bin. I did report it to the organisers and suggested the business was not invited back to the next fair.

PrimatePantaloons · 31/10/2024 12:44

So, for clarity, and at the risk of me bringing up my lunch, it was definitely hair. She had really long (natural) finger nails and got it between two of them - index finger & thumb. There was also a flake of skin attached to the end of it after she had pulled it out. She sort of held it up to admire it for a second, and then flicked it away with her thumb. It was quite long.

Wow I feel sick. 🤢 😂

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Clarabell77 · 31/10/2024 11:43

PrimatePantaloons · 30/10/2024 14:51

On a family day out buying hot drinks/ snacks from a van. I’d got my drinks/ snacks already but spotted the woman who had just served me pluck a hair out of her face with her fingers nails, look at it and then flick it off in a random direction…

I am very overly sensitive to this sort of stuff/ borderline obsessive but this is mainstream gross isn’t it?

I see this sort of stuff all the time and don’t get stuff for myself when out and about, but sometimes I wonder what would happen if I asked people to wash their hands after I’ve seen them doing something like this?

The other day in Costa I saw a guy scratch the inside of his ear with his little finger and then put a lid on someone’s take away coffee without washing his hands? That’s gross too right?

I feel like my perspective is skewed because of my anxiety about this type of thing, which I am having therapy for. As part of this I’m trying to recalibrate what is/ is not acceptable.

The woman from today didn’t even try and hide it… she was chatting to the next customer in the queue whilst admiring this chin hair she had just pulled out and then literally just flicked it off. It could have landed anywhere. That is gross, yes?

Just a thought given we are all amazed at this persons ability to tweeze a hair with her fingers, was it definitely a hair, it could have been the head off a spot or something?? 🤣🤣 Sorry 🤢

Clarabell77 · 31/10/2024 11:40

blueirises · 30/10/2024 16:22

AIBU to just be bloody amazed anyone could pluck out a chin hair with just fingers, no tweezers. Was it 6 inches long?

YANBU

Clarabell77 · 31/10/2024 11:39

TheNicelyDone · 30/10/2024 21:51

🤢 You've just reminded me of something similar that happened to me!! A trip to Germany in my late teens with my 2 sisters and the long hair I pulled out was half black and half grey. I look around and can see an angry looking woman bashing around the kitchen with dyed black hair and massive grey roots 😅😭
I didn't say anything though as the woman looked pretty terrifying, I just pushed the food around my plate until my sisters were ready to leave.
That feeling of pulling a hair out of your food is just...I can't find the words but nooooooo yuck!!

It really is - my mum used to eat those “pink & white” mallow things about 10 years ago and once found a hair in the middle of the mallow. 🤢 I can’t even look at them in the supermarket without feeling sick after she told me that.

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