NMW to increase again next year to £12.21 ph.

@Gorgonemilezola Going by the comments that’s what many would want.People on a low income, should stay on it!!
I run a small business however l understand it’s not just all about me.

Avg hourly rate in Beijing is the equivalent of just under £4 per hour. I sincerely hope pps are not suggesting the minimum wage is dropped to a similar amount so we're competitive.....

I don’t, I want the least wealthy of all ages to have more. I want to see comfortably off retirees like me pay our fair share. Is our money not good enough for you?

Obviously in a privileged position then. Nice that you want to see petrified old people too frightened to turn on the heat made to suffer even more. Lovely!

I work for a charity and only the senior management team get 20ph and over. Managers get about 15ph. It is a skilled stressful low funded industry and it is so demoralising working strategically for years to move up the ladder by improving skills and being a useful asset and being flung down a bit further to the bottom every year. Everyone deserves fair pay but current my young adult children earn nearly as much as me and the value of starting at the bottom and working your way up seems to be becoming void

That's economics, it's the way it's always been. Some people will benefit depending on their expenditure though.

Speaking of farmers there are enough threads that indicate that food prices will have to go up or the govt will have to increase subsidies.

I’ve never been away. ☺️

Blossom toes, back I see 🙄

Hardly abandoned the elderly. I’d have liked to see people my age hit much harder, I think we got away pretty painlessly.

I think it’s fair to say the Labour Party has abandoned our youth snd elderly and fucked anyone who strives in between.

My friends son has just started his three year apprenticeship. Worrying times.

"The other concern is the move towards levelling up of the 18-21 NMW. Let’s face it, who will employ a still maturing 18 year old rather than a more steady/settled and life skilled 28 year old for the same wage? I’m surprised that more isn’t being made over the effect this will have on young people - many of whom already struggle to get that first job."

This is such a valid point. The whole point of the age bands was so younger workers could get a chance, a foot in the door to build up experience. Youth unemployment will rise.

The only way we will stop this is by stopping demanding cheap goods.

Outsourcing our carbon footprint and ignoring human rights issues as well.

So many people are affected by this narrowing pay gap. People just aren’t going to put up with it quietly quitting. Not even bothering to learn these “semi skilled” jobs. This Budget has shown exactly who Labour value, and it clearly isn’t people who work hard to improve themselves, take risks to actually provide opportunities.

The other concern is the move towards levelling up of the 18-21 NMW. Let’s face it, who will employ a still maturing 18 year old rather than a more steady/settled and life skilled 28 year old for the same wage? I’m surprised that more isn’t being made over the effect this will have on young people - many of whom already struggle to get that first job.

So we've just lost a big manufacturing contract to a company importing directly from China. This is a public department contract. They say our product is too expensive. The expensive part is the wage costs.

The tender has been going through for months now so this is a general issue not down to RRs budget, but the increase in minimum wage means we have zero chance at being competitive and still manufacturing at least part in the UK.

It seems crazy that it's OK to hike wages up here but buy public service products from countries with cheap wage costs. What chance do we have?

Are you prepared to pay the true cost of food, products and services though? Because the “true cost” will likely wipe out any increase in the minimum wage, push up costs for everyone else and reduce spending in areas like hospitality where there’s a lot of minimum wage workers.

When I started my role in 2013 the minimum wage was £6.31ph i think? My salary was £12.50ph at that time. So almost double.

Over the years my employer has given no or very small pay increases per annum. My hourly rate is currentl £14.70 ph. The minimum wage is soon to be £12.22ph. I am working from home, but I'd my employer said come into office my commute cost would basically take me to just over minimum wage at around £12.70ph.

To add to this the employers' senior management is forever trying to add more responsibility to the role, which takes about 6-12 months to train up to a competent level. Many of the staff have taken to quiet quitting. My manager seemed perplexed at this. I explained the above scenario to them and they seemed to take on board that my returning to the office full time would make going on universal credit fairly attractive and allowed me to continue working from home. I guess this is the added bonus in comparison to minimum wage role which invariably require workplace attendance.

But OP is right, I know a lot of people working in semi skilled roles who are being paid little more than minimum wage that are reducing hours (like me), retiring early or going on universal credit.

Getting my shopping cheaper is far more of a concern.

why? who cares if you can eat or not

I didn't write this and I agree with you.

@Blanketyre

'My son is looking at every employee and who has to go. He's decided on an employee who is young unmarried to protect the other two who are married with children'

Your son needs to learn about employment law, because what he is thinking of doing is discrimination.

He is not going to save any money for his business if he ends up being taken to an employment tribunal...

I don’t see why it’s “lucky me”. I’m not management, I’m not in HR. I’m just one of the poor plebs who has to keep applying for my own job.

the way I see it they’ll get rid of who they want for whatever reason but be clever enough to not put that as the reason. And that may be because someone is of childbearing age. They’ll just fiddle interview scores accordingly. How can you prove that your colleagues answers weren’t worth one more mark? It’s so subjective. Of course it’s not right but it happens.

I didn’t find it particularly funny.Just illustrating how selfish some people are.

I assumed (hoped) MintsPi was taking the proverbial.

lol I worked somewhere where trainees were being hired at a higher salary than the cohort training them (who had started earlier that year).

What did they do to address the low morale?

That’s right, pizza party! With a colouring competition. (True story.)