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NMW to increase again next year to £12.21 ph.

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ZoeZee · 29/10/2024 19:51

If you’ve not had a pay rise this year, despite bringing it up to your employer, and now there’s set to be another 6% NMW increase next year (which is fantastic, don’t get me wrong) the pay gap is narrowing ever more between skilled/unskilled employees.

Skilled and those with MANY years of experience, might as ditch their responsible/stressful jobs (which often keep you awake at night) and look for something that doesn’t have the added responsibility?

Almost 20 years experience means nothing to some employers! AIBU?

Any employers who have a view on this increase, please let me know how this might affect you and your staff.

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Blanketyre · 30/10/2024 07:00

Why should they be supported and not other businesses? They are businesses at the end of the day, often making huge profits.

maddening · 30/10/2024 06:58

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I think the government is woefully inept if it introduces the change without also making arrangements to support the business such as care homes, nurseries etc which are providing vital services. Particularly as the government have been acutely aware of the cost of living crisis which has.impacted all businesses as well as people - just when businesses were finding an even keel their cost base is ramped up again - and for services like these there is an argument that they should be supported through this.

Bump3tyBump · 30/10/2024 06:58

Gorgonemilezola · 30/10/2024 06:56

Begrudging people £12.21 an hour? Really?

I know-80p rise for something that happens every year and is less than last year.🙄

IVFmumoftwo · 30/10/2024 06:57

Carpr · 30/10/2024 06:52

They will still be making up salaries though because many just drop hours as they don't want to lose the freebie handouts.

And then you get punished by UC with a sanction if you do that.

Gorgonemilezola · 30/10/2024 06:56

Begrudging people £12.21 an hour? Really?

Bump3tyBump · 30/10/2024 06:55

Laptoppie · 30/10/2024 06:54

All of those you've listed are indirectly funded by the government - I.e. contracted out services from LAs, work within government funded or subsidised sectors, if its so easy and right to pay people a fair wage, why isn't the government leading the way?

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Maybe they will.

Bump3tyBump · 30/10/2024 06:54

Carpr · 30/10/2024 06:52

They will still be making up salaries though because many just drop hours as they don't want to lose the freebie handouts.

Who is they and if you are working contracted hours how does that happen?

Laptoppie · 30/10/2024 06:54

Bump3tyBump · 30/10/2024 06:49

But we need carers, TAs, bin men, nursery staff…. so it is the job of the taxpayer to make up salaries.

Many people doing these jobs do have qualifications.

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All of those you've listed are indirectly funded by the government - I.e. contracted out services from LAs, work within government funded or subsidised sectors, if its so easy and right to pay people a fair wage, why isn't the government leading the way?

Carpr · 30/10/2024 06:52

They will still be making up salaries though because many just drop hours as they don't want to lose the freebie handouts.

Bump3tyBump · 30/10/2024 06:49

Blanketyre · 30/10/2024 06:46

Then you are topped up by benefits. I don't know what you do or what your qualifications are but if you don't have the qualifications to get a better paid job that's not up to the taxpayer to make up your salary to the level of a qualified person.

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But we need carers, TAs, bin men, nursery staff…. so it is the job of the taxpayer to make up salaries.

Many people doing these jobs do have qualifications.

Blanketyre · 30/10/2024 06:46

Differentstarts · 30/10/2024 06:39

No I don't run a business I work for nmw and have to be topped up by benefits so that my children can eat.

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Then you are topped up by benefits. I don't know what you do or what your qualifications are but if you don't have the qualifications to get a better paid job that's not up to the taxpayer to make up your salary to the level of a qualified person.

Bump3tyBump · 30/10/2024 06:46

And is smaller than last year under the Tories.

Bump3tyBump · 30/10/2024 06:45

Carpr · 30/10/2024 06:42

It will be even harder when the large supermarkets inevitably whack the prices up because of this. Surely you don't think they will let their profits suffer.

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It happens every year.

Carpr · 30/10/2024 06:42

Differentstarts · 30/10/2024 06:39

No I don't run a business I work for nmw and have to be topped up by benefits so that my children can eat.

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It will be even harder when the large supermarkets inevitably whack the prices up because of this. Surely you don't think they will let their profits suffer.

Differentstarts · 30/10/2024 06:39

Blanketyre · 30/10/2024 06:26

Because it's more than expected and it's combined with the NI increase.

Hopefully you don't run a business!

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No I don't run a business I work for nmw and have to be topped up by benefits so that my children can eat.

DGPP · 30/10/2024 06:39

If your only way of running a business is to keep your workers on very low wages and not give them this rise, then maybe it’s time for a rethink. I wouldn’t want to live on NMW with a family

Blanketyre · 30/10/2024 06:38

It has gone up more than expected. It is combined with the increase in NI

I admire your ability to google and then explain to people who run businesses that there's nothing to see here though.

Blanketyre · 30/10/2024 06:29

Bump3tyBump · 30/10/2024 06:27

Exactly there are some really rubbish business leaders out there if it’s a total catastrophe when a normal predicted financial increase that happens on the 1st April every year is a shock and not factored in.

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It has gone up more than expected. It is combined with the increase in NI. Businesses that are struggling will find this increase really difficult. Small business owners aren't Alan Sugar you know, they probably work longer hours and have more stress than most.

Carpr · 30/10/2024 06:29

Bump3tyBump · 30/10/2024 06:13

Exactly- it’s 80p!

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Because of the other stuff as well like employers NI going up, Labour seem to have something against small businesses, they don't even recognise that they are workers. This is more about small businesses than large ones which will just make sure their profits and therefore dividends don't go down

Bump3tyBump · 30/10/2024 06:27

Differentstarts · 30/10/2024 06:04

Nmw goes up every April. Why is everyone being so dramatic about this one

Exactly there are some really rubbish business leaders out there if it’s a total catastrophe when a normal predicted financial increase that happens on the 1st April every year is a shock and not factored in.

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 30/10/2024 06:27

Bump3tyBump · 30/10/2024 04:51

A country that can’t pay its lowest paid a decent wage that keeps up with the col is already on its knees and a shit show.

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This ☝🏼 A thousand times this.

Laptoppie · 30/10/2024 06:26

hamsterchump · 29/10/2024 23:33

Good argument.

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Oh it wasn't an argument, it was an observation :)

Blanketyre · 30/10/2024 06:26

Differentstarts · 30/10/2024 06:04

Nmw goes up every April. Why is everyone being so dramatic about this one

Because it's more than expected and it's combined with the NI increase.

Hopefully you don't run a business!

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 30/10/2024 06:24

Bump3tyBump · 30/10/2024 06:13

Exactly- it’s 80p!

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Because if you haven't had the good fortune to go to uni and get a good job, you must struggle and scrape by so the ones that did feel good about themselves.