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To feel a bit harassed by charity worker

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Hardknocks · 29/10/2024 18:40

Was on my way back from a meeting in London this evening, had to stop at the ticket machine to get my ticket a charity person came over to ask for a donation - I said I couldn’t afford it (I couldn’t), but I usually do give something. However this guy was so pushy, putting leaflets in my face, telling me he lost his brother to knife crime etc etc. He put £25 into his card reader and just kept saying ‘just tap your phone, tap your phone’. I politely asked him to move so that I could get past and through the train barrier but he said not until I tap.. so feeling completely intimidated I did.

I feel stupid, I couldn’t afford £25. I don’t begrudge giving to charity at all and I do where I can. AIBU to feel a bit upset about the whole thing.

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Hardknocks · 29/10/2024 21:14

Thank you everyone, I needed these messages tonight. I’m going to report it to my bank, to the council and to trading standards. I’ve done a lot of research on it tonight and it’s appalling really.

Thanks also to those using Farringdon who will be warning others! I’m back in a few weeks and I’ll be ready next time..

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RamonaRamirez · 29/10/2024 21:10

You could also see it as learning money

you need to learn that it does not matter if random chuggers think you are a good person who would normally donate to charity or whatever. Who are they to judge you anyway?

i have to walk through groups of chuggers blocking the way all the time so got hardened

” do you care about children?”
”no”

” do you care about innocent kids getting stabbed ?!”
”no”

i just say no or else ignore them

i don’t care what they think of me. At all 😁 Same way that they do not care at all what I think of them. At all.

Stowickthevast · 29/10/2024 21:09

The company records say it was only incorporated in July 2024. It's not a registered charity so definitely get in touch with your bank and report to trading standards.

SqueakyDinosaur · 29/10/2024 21:06

I use Farringdon station so will be looking out for him. I will warn my colleagues too.

CustardCreams2 · 29/10/2024 21:02

Yanbu. It’s harassment.
A co op near me always has some charity station literally right outside the entrance staffed with young girls. Even without engaging they hound you and you can’t escape them as they are literally by the door. Really irritating.

listsandbudgets · 29/10/2024 21:02

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/10/2024 20:41

Uplifterz CIC is the charity. I will be reporting him!

As PPs have said it's not a charity, OP, and FWIW has only been going since July anyway
Interestingly the director's previous company (Amelia's Future, whatever that was) was subject to a compulsory dissolution/strikeoff in September 2023

It usually means that they didn't do the paperwork so they were just dissolved automatically

I would not be entirely surprised to find UPliftz meets the same fate

Leeds157 · 29/10/2024 21:01

Farringdon station is awful for this kind of thing, it's like a brigade of charity collectors charge at you as you emerge from the station

XXAHF · 29/10/2024 21:00

I’ve heard about those knifecrime campaigners. It’s like a pyramid scheme. There’s been loads of complaints about threats and intimidation. Beware.

OdeToBarney · 29/10/2024 20:58

Hardknocks · 29/10/2024 20:06

There were at least 3 TFL staff members that witnessed it happen and ignored it, I’m presuming they can’t be bothered with the arguments either. I’m riled up now haha - I wish I could go back!

I noticed them encroaching on the concourse tonight too. I'm going to speak to station staff tomorrow. I am also v riled up!

pinkstripeycat · 29/10/2024 20:57

They aren’t allowed to do that. You’re not even meant to shake a collection tin

RedToothBrush · 29/10/2024 20:55

Given they are technically a company rather than a charity I'm fairly sure it falls under Trading Standards and it is reportable to them.

Rather than theft it's high pressure sales:

High-pressure sales, also known as aggressive commercial practices, are illegal when they use harassment, coercion, or undue influence to affect a consumer's judgment. This is prohibited by Regulation 7 of the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008.

Examples of high-pressure sales include:
A doorstep caller who pressures you into buying a product after you decline

A salesperson who stays in your home and pressures you to sign a contract

A business that keeps consumers at their premises for a long time to get them to buy something

(I did a lot of reading up on this a number of years ago regarding Bounty harassing women on maternity wards).

DBSFstupid · 29/10/2024 20:53

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 29/10/2024 20:51

A charity mugger, @DBSFstupid.

@SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius Thank you for taking the time to reply!

user47 · 29/10/2024 20:52

report to your card company immediately and say what happened

user47 · 29/10/2024 20:51

Sorry, NRTFT but it is a known scam

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 29/10/2024 20:51

DBSFstupid · 29/10/2024 19:54

What is a Chugger?

A charity mugger, @DBSFstupid.

twomanyfrogsinabox · 29/10/2024 20:51

Tell your bank what happened and see if they can reclaim the money. You paid under duress.

Turtonator · 29/10/2024 20:48

Bastard Chuggers. Encountered two when I was showing a US friend around London. Dogs charity, pushy pushy pushy sods. I said no and kept walking, one of the Chuggers shouted "Dogs" after us ...... I wish I'd complained.

Deportationsensation · 29/10/2024 20:45

Surely this counts as theft? He basically intimidated you into not being able to leave until you tapped your card. How can that not be some sort of crime

muckandmerriment · 29/10/2024 20:45

I've just looked at their website. It doesn't look legit. Looks like a fake website to me. You can tell from the lack of real information about anything. Even the address I'm sure is just a virtual office, not an actual office with any staff in it.

Cherrysoup · 29/10/2024 20:44

He blocked you going, so intimidating, no wonder you just agreed! If it happens again, shout, tell him to fuck off, whatever it takes, shout to the staff that you’re being assaulted, whatever you can think of! Hope you’re ok, I’m so glad I don’t have that commute anymore. 🙁

SinnerBoy · 29/10/2024 20:43

lifebyfaith · Today 19:28

I would tell your bank that you were coerced and didn't consent to giving the money. You're more likely to get your money back this way than via the charity or whatever it was.

Yes, I think that's the best bet, a woman on your own, with a man intimidating you like that. I'd also report (as others suggest) to TFL and the British Transport Police, rather than the ordinary Police. BTP have a reputation for targetting crooks and antisocial behaviour etc and catching the wee darlings.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/10/2024 20:41

Uplifterz CIC is the charity. I will be reporting him!

As PPs have said it's not a charity, OP, and FWIW has only been going since July anyway
Interestingly the director's previous company (Amelia's Future, whatever that was) was subject to a compulsory dissolution/strikeoff in September 2023

CJFJ1 · 29/10/2024 20:37

Lifeomars · 29/10/2024 20:12

I hate them! not been many around where I live lately but I remember having to duck and dive to avoid them when I was rushing to get my bus home from work and ignoring things like "don't you care about dying babies then?" We used to get them coming door to door too which was a laugh really as I live in a really poor area where people are truly struggling to get by and we have loads of food banks and a church that does free lunches for at least 300 every week. Those are the sorts of charities that I support, not bloody chancers trying to guilt trip and threaten people

Yes - and without wanting to derail this thread, on a slightly different note, you always tend to get the guilt trip from all of the beggars on trains / public transport these days. It may be a London thing but hardly a journey goes by these days without at least one beggar walking through a train asking for any spare change and then muttering something when there is no response from passengers.

FanofLeaves · 29/10/2024 20:33

Was this in East Croydon by any chance? Sorry if you’ve already said.

these guys are not legit. I see them harass people every single day.

Nanny0gg · 29/10/2024 20:32

OdeToBarney · 29/10/2024 19:52

Thank you. I guess I'll be contacting City of London because they're not a registered charity, they're a CIC. It's honestly outrageous the tactics they use.

We have a CIC 'charity shop' in a town near me.

Everyone raves about them. They have masses of donations, they operate using volunteers and the only one making any money is the 'owner'. I've seen very little donated to local charities

But there'd be an outcry if you criticised them