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To feel a bit harassed by charity worker

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Hardknocks · 29/10/2024 18:40

Was on my way back from a meeting in London this evening, had to stop at the ticket machine to get my ticket a charity person came over to ask for a donation - I said I couldn’t afford it (I couldn’t), but I usually do give something. However this guy was so pushy, putting leaflets in my face, telling me he lost his brother to knife crime etc etc. He put £25 into his card reader and just kept saying ‘just tap your phone, tap your phone’. I politely asked him to move so that I could get past and through the train barrier but he said not until I tap.. so feeling completely intimidated I did.

I feel stupid, I couldn’t afford £25. I don’t begrudge giving to charity at all and I do where I can. AIBU to feel a bit upset about the whole thing.

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JollyPinkFox · 29/10/2024 23:11

I’d ring the charity and say you only donated as you were intimidated, late for a meeting and he was blocking you from getting through so you want a refund, if they won’t then say you’re going to report them to the police, charity commission and TFL. For future reference I regularly tell these people to fuck off and that I don’t care about their sob stories. I donate to several local charitable causes through direct debit that I’ve chosen to support, I’m not going to be bullied into giving more donations to randoms harassing me on the street

CJFJ1 · 29/10/2024 23:08

Notagain24 · 29/10/2024 23:05

I'm really shocked that TFL turn a blind eye to this - i thought i was just unlucky to be approached, shocking that they're at the same station all the time.

They and British Transport Police seem to turn a blind eye to all the beggars / "tissue beggars" that walk through trains these days, asking for money, so I'm not surprised they turn a blind eye to this kind of thing.

Notagain24 · 29/10/2024 23:05

I'm really shocked that TFL turn a blind eye to this - i thought i was just unlucky to be approached, shocking that they're at the same station all the time.

Bucketsof · 29/10/2024 23:05

“Legit” charities can still be a scam. No one from charity commission checks anything. People who run charities can take huge salaries for doing basically nothing,

Notagain24 · 29/10/2024 23:04

I had this in Farringdon in the summer - about 4 teens, looked like they'd just come on shift, asked me if i wanted to help stop knife crime, one of them said her cousin had been killed. I said i was a tourist, didn't live in London so not bothered about supporting London charities - it was bright and there were lots of people about, but still intimidating, and they did argue the toss.

i wish i'd said i'd say a prayer for them, i expect they'd have left me alone more quickly!.

Rightsraptor · 29/10/2024 22:57

No way should this be happening on station property. I haven't read the entire thread but find out who operates Farringdon Station and post on their Twitter/X account.

CJFJ1 · 29/10/2024 22:55

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Smittenkitchen · 29/10/2024 22:51

Pretty much the opposite of an honest living, Jesus Christ. So frustrating for you OP, try not to feel bad yourself, you were completely intimidated and pressured by him.

yeaitsmeagain · 29/10/2024 22:47

You should have the thread title updated with the name and the place so that people searching for it in Google will see this thread come up with the scam straightaway.

Blinky21 · 29/10/2024 22:45

I got stopped by the same charity in Shoreditch about 2 weeks ago, said he needed £25, wasn't pushy or aggressive though

IceCreamCookies · 29/10/2024 22:44

Ask your bank if they can reverse the charge, say this guy cornered you and basically mugged you into paying him. They should be able to claim your money back. It's a "donation" after all not a purchase.
I'd also get a new card.

BasiliskStare · 29/10/2024 22:43

@Hardknocks - if you are up to it I would phone the charity / whatever and say you were pressured into it and can they refund. & then email them and just complain until you get your money back

listsandbudgets · 29/10/2024 22:33

SouthernFashionista · 29/10/2024 21:51

I just called the number on the website. Random bloke answered. No ‘Hello. Uplifterz’ or anything. We should all be calling him!!

Don't forget they could have used anyone's number. The person who owns the number may nkf even knkw ots been used.. supoosing you suddenly started getting hundreds of calls out of the blue from a nest of angry mumsnet vipers

LurkingFromTheShadows · 29/10/2024 22:32

Some of these people are horrid. I remember being pressurised when I was visiting a friend in Oxford once. When I didn't give anything, he made a sarcastic comment about something I was wearing.

tachetastic · 29/10/2024 22:31

Hardknocks · 29/10/2024 18:40

Was on my way back from a meeting in London this evening, had to stop at the ticket machine to get my ticket a charity person came over to ask for a donation - I said I couldn’t afford it (I couldn’t), but I usually do give something. However this guy was so pushy, putting leaflets in my face, telling me he lost his brother to knife crime etc etc. He put £25 into his card reader and just kept saying ‘just tap your phone, tap your phone’. I politely asked him to move so that I could get past and through the train barrier but he said not until I tap.. so feeling completely intimidated I did.

I feel stupid, I couldn’t afford £25. I don’t begrudge giving to charity at all and I do where I can. AIBU to feel a bit upset about the whole thing.

"a bit harassed"?

You were mugged! Please do report the individual collector to the charity as this is outrageous behaviour.

I actually think this could qualify as crime, as I don't think it could be argued that you gave this money willingly, though I am not suggesting that you pursue this.

I hope you are feeling better tonight after what must have been a really unpleasant experience.

PadstowGirl · 29/10/2024 22:29

ButtSurgery · 29/10/2024 19:02

There's a reason they are called chuggers - charity muggers.

I no longer feel bad, I just say no thank you.

You are nicer than me, I say "fuck off".

Greycheck · 29/10/2024 22:29

Very similar happened to me last week outside Euston. VERY pushy bloke who wouldn't take no for answer. I didn't give them anything but can see how easy it would be just to get them to stop following and harassing. Don't know the company as I kept moving but he did mention knife crime.

Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 29/10/2024 22:28

You can complain here

www.gov.uk/government/organisations/office-of-the-regulator-of-community-interest-companies/about/complaints-procedure

Get onto your bank and explain

Cigarettesandbooze · 29/10/2024 22:23

Jesus check out this utter shite. You couldn’t make it up
uplifterz.co.uk/post-3/

TerrysNeapolitan · 29/10/2024 22:17

export this as others have said OP bang out of order WTAF

Rubberspider · 29/10/2024 22:16

Interesting - I was at a tube station in West London today and was hassled by a young guy trying to speak to me about knife crime and asking for money. I was so annoyed that when he asked me if I care about knife crime I replied with “I do not now leave me alone”. There were a group of them wearing blue jackets

Londonrach1 · 29/10/2024 22:13

Report him to the police and to charity he meant to be supporting...sounds like a scammer....

saltysandysea · 29/10/2024 22:13

Grmumpy · 29/10/2024 21:45

I googled it..it’s not a registered charity. He obtained your money by falsely representing it and he harassed you. I would phone the railway police and report it. Come back and let us know how you got on,

I checked and surprisingly has no social media. No Facebook, instagram etc. I do think it is a scam - watch your account very carefully and set up notifications.

cheesymashfortea · 29/10/2024 22:11

Those who use Farringdon station - I have started using the side entrance on Turnmill st (where nandos and the co op is) to avoid them!

Had a quick look at their companies house, as someone who works in the sector it looks very dodgy - they don’t even have any charitable objects in place. Contrary to what previous posters have said though, not all CICs are bad or scams!

I hope you can get your £25 back OP ❤️

smallgingerone · 29/10/2024 22:08

Please report this to the station manager (you should get a better response than the TFL staff). In order to operate any kind of charity collection in a station you need a permit (which this would not receive as it is not a charity). It does no favour to legitimate charities following the law to allow things like this to happen.

When I conducted charity collections in stations we would have had the permit recinded for harrassing people (you can ask once but no more). The legalese is you can not 'importune to the point of annoyance' (which I love as a quote)

Also remember each collector has to carry a copy of their permit at all times - which you can ask to see.