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Why are all MILs so horrible?

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Janey638 · 29/10/2024 18:13

Does something happen to the mums of sons that makes them awful when they become a MIL? For years I’ve been a bit of a lurker on this site and I’m shocked by the amount of MIL posts, hardly any about the maternal mum. It looks like MILs are too overbearing if they want to hold a new baby, or too remote if they keep their distance. As a mum to three boys this all really depresses me. Literally does everyone hate their MIL?

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SavageTomato · 29/10/2024 23:07

I love my MIl more than I did my own mum in so many ways. Please don't worry, the fact that you do worry likely means you will get it right!

TickyBooo · 29/10/2024 22:46

@ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews - would you mind expanding on why you feel this way? It's so lovely to hear, as the mother of boys!

EdithStourton · 29/10/2024 22:40

My MIL was very kind to me.
Let us get on with it, didn't judge, seemed to like having me around, enjoyed her DGC.

WonderingWanda · 29/10/2024 22:39

My mil is lovely and not at all overbearing. My dm is also lovely but has at times been a little overbearing.

Toomanyemails · 29/10/2024 22:36

It's just that people are more likely to vent about the bad MILs! You'd also assume from the forums that all men are cheats or at very least useless.
My MIL actually is a nightmare, but she's always been awful and it didn't change after I met her 😅on, but several of my close friends have amazing relationships with their MILs. I hate the nonsense of "a daughter is a daughter for life, a son is only a son until he meets a wife"

Titsywoo · 29/10/2024 22:31

I love my MIL but my SIL (my DH brothers wife) has a really difficult relationship with her so I can imagine her on here saying she is a terrible MIL. MIL loves me and we get on well but she really dislikes SIL. Partly as SIL is a bit of an attention seeker and makes everything about her but also MIL often will give unwanted parenting advice. I always just nodded and ignored but SIL will speak her mind. Neither are bad people it is just a clash of personalities.

GreenAlkanet · 29/10/2024 22:28

My ex MIL law was lovely, shame her son was not at all.

Alwaystired23 · 29/10/2024 22:25

Well, I like my MIL, she loves my sons. She's a great grandmother to them. We get on pretty well. You'll only hear negatives on here. Not many people are going to make a thread "MIL is great," are they?

TeabySea · 29/10/2024 22:24

Mine is absolutely lovely.

Mountainpika · 29/10/2024 22:23

I've had two mothers in law for the price of one - my husband's adoptive mother and his birth mother whom we traced when husband was 70. Both were lovely and we got on very well. I loved them both. Am a MIL myself and would love to see more of our two daughters in law - but distance prevents it. But we get on well when we do meet.

Babycatsarenice · 29/10/2024 22:19

I think it's to do with post partum hormones. In laws want lots of access to new baby but mum is very protective. It's probably a survival / cave woman thing as it seems very common these MIL threads here post partum.

OliviaRodrighost · 29/10/2024 22:18

Also, my own mum is an amazing MIL to my brother’s wife. Obviously she doesn’t love SIL as much as she loves me, but it’s pretty close. I think she prefers SIL to my DB sometimes and I don’t blame her 😂

Babbahabba · 29/10/2024 22:17

My ex MIL was/is lovely. So was FIL. It was their son I had the issue with 🤣 (divorced him).

OliviaRodrighost · 29/10/2024 22:16

My MIL was wonderful and treated me like the daughter she never had. She died of cancer and I miss her every day and I’m so thankful for her raising DH to be the lovely amazing man that he is. She was one of the most amazing, kind, loving, funny, down to earth people I’ve ever known. I genuinely loved her.

perfectstorm · 29/10/2024 22:13

I think people just post when they have problems, not "my MIL is a really nice woman." I mean, it's not something they need to say, is it, when it's going well.

It's a bit like reviews - they skew to extremes and generally poor experiences, because "I bought a perfectly nice sofa, everything went well, it's comfortable, end of story" isn't inspiring people to hunt down review sites and share their thoughts, whereas a disaster is.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 29/10/2024 21:55

No one would bother to write a post about a lovely one

ACynicalDad · 29/10/2024 21:54

Mine doesn't speak English so we muddle by but get on well, she shows her love by cooking for me. Whilst the relationship is limited there's no hate on either side, far from it.

bellocchild · 29/10/2024 21:53

My MIL, sadly dead these ten years, was wonderful too: loving and giving. And a brilliant grandma. My own DM was beyond hopeless.

NewName24 · 29/10/2024 21:52

why-are-all-mils-so-horrible

They aren't.

What a ridiculous question.

JohnTheRevelator · 29/10/2024 21:48

I'm a MIL of 18 years standing. My son-in-law tolerates me as I do him. When he and my DD first got together,he was lovely to me,but as time went on,his attitude changed,and by the time he and my DD had their baby (3.5 years after they met) we were barely speaking to each other. I've always been very close to my DD, particularly with her being an only child and me being a single parent from when she was 11 years old,and her father walked out on his because he was having an affair. I am certain that the reason for the animosity between me and son-in-law is because he couldn't handle the fact that there was someone else in my DDs life,who loved and cared about her as much as he did. My DD has actually agreed with me that this is the reason for his attitude towards me. Thankfully,DD and I are still close despite her husband's attitude towards me, and I am extremely close to my DGD.

dontbedaft2000 · 29/10/2024 21:45

Janey638 · 29/10/2024 18:13

Does something happen to the mums of sons that makes them awful when they become a MIL? For years I’ve been a bit of a lurker on this site and I’m shocked by the amount of MIL posts, hardly any about the maternal mum. It looks like MILs are too overbearing if they want to hold a new baby, or too remote if they keep their distance. As a mum to three boys this all really depresses me. Literally does everyone hate their MIL?

Don't be daft. Nobody has ever said a MIL is overbearing for "wanting to hold a new baby" though some have been upset at their MIL charging through their front door and kissing their baby when asked not to, or bossing them around when it comes to feeding, or grabbing the baby and leaving the room when a new mother is lying there exhausted and teary. And etc.

Some do say their MIL is remote, they're generally told that an MIL can have any life they want.

The threads you see on here are unlikely to be "My MIL is great" because after all people are posting problems. Start a "My MIL is great thread" post all the things she does and see if people join in.

Though again, as this is basically an agony aunt site with thousands of wannabe agony aunts commenting, you probably won't get as much traction.

And contrary to popular fables, lots of MILs have great lives that just don't revolve much around what their grandchildren or dils are getting up to, and you're hardly going to hear from or about them.

As to the wider issue - the only area women have ever held any historical power - and not always then - is in child rearing/family units.

Women are constantly encouraged to compete with one another for any available attention and power, this is a society wide issue and has been encouraged by everything from "jokes" and movies to comments within families, so naturally when they see their tiny scrap of perceived power diminished some will react badly.

If you can keep women arguing and unhappy with one another they won't band together to try to change things like those annoying Suffragettes did. See Afghanistan right now, where women are enslaved and literally told they cannot even speak to each other. Women cooperating can be dangerous for the status quo.

So, it's in the status quo's favour to encourage women to attack other women and society does this in many ways.

And women are almost without exception an easier and weaker target than men, so many women will fight amongst themselves rather than trying to get their husbands/fathers/brothers to change or improve.

Lots of men enjoy watching their female relatives fight with one another, it amuses them and reinforces their backwards notions about women generally.

Men as a collective are often extremely aggressive to one another, but this is a site dominated by women so you won't hear as much about that.

And a lot of men don't care what women are doing to one another unless it affects them, so just leave them to it - meaning a woman has no back up from her husband/father/brothers and will write to sites like this instead to try to figure things out.

So, basically, there are many interwoven reasons why you will read about MILs behaving badly here. And none of them are "MIL wants to hold the baby".

5128gap · 29/10/2024 21:37

ZoeCM · 29/10/2024 21:12

Men have always hated their mothers-in-law even more than women do. Mother-in-law jokes used to be a staple for male comedians - they've only been phased out because of political correctness. My kids and I watched an episode of the 90s sitcom Dinosaurs the other day - it was about a ritual where men hurled their mothers-in-law off a cliff when they turned 72. Society in general despises older women.

The men hating their MiL trope usually arose from the MiL painted as a formidable force protecting her DD from the husband's failings and not being afraid to challenge him. The MiL was the woman who challenged his mastery of his own house to defend her DDs interests, and was hated for it. Like all women who criticise men. Similar to the carry on Matron protecting the young nurses and being feared and despised by the men for it. You don't see this stereotype as much these days, which may be because younger women are now more confident and assertive so there is less need for the protective older woman. We now having the 'nagging wife' who fights her own corner.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 29/10/2024 21:31

Icedbear · 29/10/2024 18:17

My feelings aren't real? OK

The "They aren't" comment was clearly in response to the OP's title, not you.

Portakalkedi · 29/10/2024 21:29

Don't hate mine but we don't really see eye to eye, and I don't love her ( and she no doubt feels the same about me). We are perfectly pleasant to each other but that's it, DH calls her every day and visits every couple of weeks, and I go with him several times a year. Not looking forward to her staying here at Christmas, but DH and I always have to do Christmas as SIL visits her own mother even less than I do ( and is of course spoken of as the favoured child who can do no wrong).

Dreamerinme · 29/10/2024 21:21

Calliopespa · 29/10/2024 20:42

Why are all MILs said to be narcissistic ?

Is it something that happens in utero when carrying a boy? Because lots of men think their mil is fine🤷🏻‍♀️

What? I never said all MIL are narcissistic? My own DM was but my MIL was lovely.

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