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To think public smoking should be banned

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CreamLampshade · 29/10/2024 15:57

I live in London and am sick of constantly trying to avoid breathing in disgusting cigarette smoke or the weird sickly smell of vapes. There’s only so much you can swerve, speed past people or cross the road. I feel it’s very selfish to smoke in public spaces, especially crowded streets when people can’t avoid breathing it in. Why can’t people take responsibility for their own health - and others - and just give it up? It’s disgusting and really selfish.

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MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 29/10/2024 19:35

CreamLampshade · 29/10/2024 16:10

Well, it is. Lots of people do it?

Lots of what you've posted makes you look dim but this is probably the pinnacle. I'm baffled anyone can be this ignorant about addiction. I've never smoked or vaped and it doesn't take much intelligence or effort to understand it isn't easy to quit.

rockstarshoes · 29/10/2024 19:32

Yes safer! Doing her bloody best!

Honestly this thread is so judgemental!

If someone has a nicotine patch stuck to their arm they are doing great, if they use a vape, they are babyish, look ridiculous, smell of strawberries whatever but at least they are trying to stop smoking fgs!

Imatorturedpoet · 29/10/2024 19:31

There's a lot of things I'd like to ban, including drunk people, shouting people, cars, motor bikes, people talking loudly on their phones in public ... vaping and cigarette smoke don't bother me, I quite like the smell. They already have to go outside, leave them alone and let them do what they want.

EalingLucy · 29/10/2024 19:18

rockstarshoes · 29/10/2024 19:16

'Vapes are so gross. They smell of old, sweet popcorn to me. And people smoking them look like overgrown children with dummies. Saw a pregnant women smoking one the other day. I get they’re addictive but I just think there are some things you need to prioritise like your babies health over an urge that will at some point go away.'

You know she is prioritising the health of her baby right? She's not smoking!

From the NHS Website!

People can't win! They try to stop smoking by using vapes & still people moan about people smelling of popcorn 🙁

It’s safer, but not necessarily safe. There’s a difference.

To think public smoking should be banned
rockstarshoes · 29/10/2024 19:16

'Vapes are so gross. They smell of old, sweet popcorn to me. And people smoking them look like overgrown children with dummies. Saw a pregnant women smoking one the other day. I get they’re addictive but I just think there are some things you need to prioritise like your babies health over an urge that will at some point go away.'

You know she is prioritising the health of her baby right? She's not smoking!

From the NHS Website!

People can't win! They try to stop smoking by using vapes & still people moan about people smelling of popcorn 🙁

To think public smoking should be banned
Growlybear83 · 29/10/2024 19:06

@peonym I completely understand the argument about the health impact of cigarette smoke indoors, but don't accept that smoking outside is any more dangerous than walking along a road with loads of polluting vehicles. Surely a car that is idling in traffic is emitting far more pollutants and is potentially far more damaging that someone walking past smoking a cigarette.

VivianLea · 29/10/2024 18:57

cout · 29/10/2024 18:11

You don't love smoking. You love the relief you get from satisfying your addiction briefly.

Nah, I love smoking. I smoke 2 or 3 cigarettes a week, and strictly never more than one a day. I simply don't smoke enough to be addicted. Around 15 years ago I used to smoke as a serious habit, and I remember what it's like to feel addicted to nicotine, so I'm pretty confident in my assessment.

I personally really like the smell of smoke but agree that it's anti social. I'm so paranoid of being thought bad of that I put my cigarette out if someone is about to walk past me.

peonym · 29/10/2024 18:53

Growlybear83 · 29/10/2024 18:27

I would be very much opposed to any further restrictions for smokers.

I was a smoker for many years but gave up nearly 30 years ago, but have managed not to become a fervent anti smoker like many ex smokers. Although it was introduced long after I had stopped, I thought the ban on smoking in pubs and restaurants was wrong, and if restaurateurs and publicans were happy to allow smoking on their premises, I think they should have been allowed to make a decision on what they would allow on their own premises and I think the ban has led to the closure of many pubs.

The smell of cigarette smoke doesn't bother me at all, and I find the smell of people eating fried chicken on public transport, BO, and people talking loudly and playing music/games on their phones far more offensive.

It's more than something "bothering" you - it's the health impacts of second hand smoke. People talking loudly is a very different beast...

CreamLampshade · 29/10/2024 18:45

Growlybear83 · 29/10/2024 18:27

I would be very much opposed to any further restrictions for smokers.

I was a smoker for many years but gave up nearly 30 years ago, but have managed not to become a fervent anti smoker like many ex smokers. Although it was introduced long after I had stopped, I thought the ban on smoking in pubs and restaurants was wrong, and if restaurateurs and publicans were happy to allow smoking on their premises, I think they should have been allowed to make a decision on what they would allow on their own premises and I think the ban has led to the closure of many pubs.

The smell of cigarette smoke doesn't bother me at all, and I find the smell of people eating fried chicken on public transport, BO, and people talking loudly and playing music/games on their phones far more offensive.

Interesting. I would actively avoid pubs and restaurants that allowed in this scenario, but agree with this idea if it means that if people want to smoke they have a place to do it where it’s not imposed on others.

suspect that it would be quite a big class divide between the two.

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CreamLampshade · 29/10/2024 18:43

valueyourself · 29/10/2024 18:42

Just to say .. my lovely mother.. a subject of 40s/50s posh upbringing once said to me when I took up smoking in my late teens ....

For goodness sake.. NEVER walk and smoke .. it's so common. !

(Not a word about the untold health issues that killed her father..) just how awful it is to see a 'lady' walking and smoking. Smoking was to only be considered ok when sitting down with a G&T .. 🙈..

I smoked on and off until my late 30s but couldn't do it standing up !

Haha. It is true, really. There is no class in walking and smoking!

she was right!

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valueyourself · 29/10/2024 18:42

Just to say .. my lovely mother.. a subject of 40s/50s posh upbringing once said to me when I took up smoking in my late teens ....

For goodness sake.. NEVER walk and smoke .. it's so common. !

(Not a word about the untold health issues that killed her father..) just how awful it is to see a 'lady' walking and smoking. Smoking was to only be considered ok when sitting down with a G&T .. 🙈..

I smoked on and off until my late 30s but couldn't do it standing up !

Growlybear83 · 29/10/2024 18:27

I would be very much opposed to any further restrictions for smokers.

I was a smoker for many years but gave up nearly 30 years ago, but have managed not to become a fervent anti smoker like many ex smokers. Although it was introduced long after I had stopped, I thought the ban on smoking in pubs and restaurants was wrong, and if restaurateurs and publicans were happy to allow smoking on their premises, I think they should have been allowed to make a decision on what they would allow on their own premises and I think the ban has led to the closure of many pubs.

The smell of cigarette smoke doesn't bother me at all, and I find the smell of people eating fried chicken on public transport, BO, and people talking loudly and playing music/games on their phones far more offensive.

peonym · 29/10/2024 18:22

Agree. Hate it, hate big plumes of strawberry vape floating in my face every time I walk through a busy street. For those saying "oh well let's ban cars too" - co2 regulations are attempting to reduce this kind of pollution so why not regulate smoking / vaping too.

dixon86 · 29/10/2024 18:21

How will it be policed?

Auburngal · 29/10/2024 18:21

Think smoking outside should include not smoking within 3m of a door which is used.

My previous workplace, a supermarket, people smoked by the entrance when it rained or in the winter as there is an overhang, The wind made the smoke waft into the store. Security and management asked the smokers to move. Got abuse.

Yet opposite there are two empty units with a similar sized overhangs to my previous work. No one smokes there.

CreamLampshade · 29/10/2024 18:20

EalingLucy · 29/10/2024 18:19

Totally agree OP. The people on this thread goading you are obviously feeling guilty because they know they smoke in people’s faces and that it’s gross!

Agreed. I was probably walking behind one of them earlier on!

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CreamLampshade · 29/10/2024 18:19

SiobhanSharpe · 29/10/2024 18:19

My local hospital, both buildings and grounds, is a smoke free zone and is marked as such, especially around the entrances.
In another hospital I visited I saw a specific area outside, well away from any entrances, designated for smokers, labelled as such and cordoned or fenced off.
So it can be done.
When I visited Tokyo there were such areas in the street, I was curious as to why a group of people, mostly men, were herded into a smallish space cordoned off from the rest of the street. And there were glass boxes inside shopping centres and the like, also for smokers. Seems to work reasonably well, I wasn't assaulted by clouds of smoke and noxious smells at all.

Yea this is a great idea

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SiobhanSharpe · 29/10/2024 18:19

My local hospital, both buildings and grounds, is a smoke free zone and is marked as such, especially around the entrances.
In another hospital I visited I saw a specific area outside, well away from any entrances, designated for smokers, labelled as such and cordoned or fenced off.
So it can be done.
When I visited Tokyo there were such areas in the street, I was curious as to why a group of people, mostly men, were herded into a smallish space cordoned off from the rest of the street. And there were glass boxes inside shopping centres and the like, also for smokers. Seems to work reasonably well, I wasn't assaulted by clouds of smoke and noxious smells at all.

EalingLucy · 29/10/2024 18:19

Totally agree OP. The people on this thread goading you are obviously feeling guilty because they know they smoke in people’s faces and that it’s gross!

BIossomtoes · 29/10/2024 18:15

pavillion1 · 29/10/2024 18:13

i love the smell but then i only stopped because of the cost .

I do too. It’s more than a decade since I stopped smoking but I still love the smell. I have been known to linger around smokers.

CreamLampshade · 29/10/2024 18:14

Choosenandenough · 29/10/2024 18:13

I smoked for years - gave up 20 years ago. I don’t get the argument about drinking, drugs freedom etc as a comparison. If I drink I’m not forcing anyone else to drink. If I take drugs I’m not making anyone else take them. But if I smoke, I’m forcing the people around me to breathe it in. And no, I don’t drive. Not for ethical reasons, I just can’t!

100% this!

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pavillion1 · 29/10/2024 18:13

i love the smell but then i only stopped because of the cost .

AndThereSheGoes · 29/10/2024 18:13

VivianLea · 29/10/2024 18:04

I love smoking but whenever I smoke I feel like I need to go and hide somewhere no one will see me, or go somewhere where people can easily go around me.

Me too. Part of the badness of smoking.

I couldn't get upset about fags in London though what with the buses and cars kicking out fumes.

Smoking is dying out anyway. I get upset with the amount of swearing you hear everywhere and people being rude and entitled.

Choosenandenough · 29/10/2024 18:13

I smoked for years - gave up 20 years ago. I don’t get the argument about drinking, drugs freedom etc as a comparison. If I drink I’m not forcing anyone else to drink. If I take drugs I’m not making anyone else take them. But if I smoke, I’m forcing the people around me to breathe it in. And no, I don’t drive. Not for ethical reasons, I just can’t!

cout · 29/10/2024 18:11

VivianLea · 29/10/2024 18:04

I love smoking but whenever I smoke I feel like I need to go and hide somewhere no one will see me, or go somewhere where people can easily go around me.

You don't love smoking. You love the relief you get from satisfying your addiction briefly.