To think public smoking should be banned

Smokers already have to compromise by going outside.

love the entitlement that says smokers are "compromising".

No, children and adults inhaling second hand carcinogens from cigarette smoke never had the choice to be killed by the actions of others until science finally gave such irrefutable evidence that secondary smoking is a danger to health, that public action was taken and going outside was the pragmatic option.

Cigarettes would be illegal now, and never available for sale, but you can't put that genie back in the bottle quickly so hopefully the children being born now will benefit from the Bill to create the first ever smoke-free generation.

UMC?

I used to smoke, now I vape. I drink, I am overweight, I drive a car, I take long showers, I wash clothing after one wear, I use strong perfume, I love plug in air fresheners, I use strong smelling fabric conditioner, I have two dogs etc etc.
My point is whatever I do will be pissing someone off somewhere (especially on mn) so I may as well carry on, I am sure OP will do things that infuriate other people but most of us don't stop and think about every tiny decision we make and how it will affect the wider population.
I don't like walking past smokers myself, it smells horrible but it's a couple of seconds inconvenience for me, I seriously doubt you can breathe in enough smoke from a cigarette outside to damage your health, if I was in London I would be much more concerned about traffic pollution.
I think an awful lot of threads on here are started by people with a complete fixation on a 'problem' and they wind themselves up about it until it's all they can see around them, I don't notice anything like the levels of hate for things done in everyday life in real life.....they just seem to get blown vastly out of proportion on here.

if you live in central London you’re basically smoking 20 a day from all the pollution

if i spend the day working in London, using the underground and buses, I blow my nose when I get home and it’s black

I don't even know what to say about this.

My family are very UMC.

We live in Jacobean Manor Houses, Georgian townhouses & a Lutyens houses.

We 98% like smoking.

Eh? What you gonna do?

If I 110% agreed with someone.

I'd have a look at my maths.

@CreamLampshade

My family are crying into their dirty privilege.

(86% ish).

No misery.

I agree with this 110% OP. I've never felt the need to smoke, I used to enjoy drinking at university but I grew out of it after my master's and realised I don't need it to have fun

Me too! I kind of know what she means though - I live in a posh area and the only people who vape (I don't see anyone smoking) are the teenagers.

Where I live, there is a large usage of nitrous oxide. They use those large canisters which are designed to use in whipped cream - ie cream chargers. Hippy Crack.

Seen drivers using them whilst driving with the canister between their legs and inhaling balloons using the NO canister. When they finish them, they throw them out of their car window. Good job I wasn't right behind a car and it was just me and the other car on the roundabout when they threw out the canister. It bounced off the kerb and managed to swerve to avoid it. Dread to think what damage it would have done to my car.
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Some factors can’t be changed, but many can, including decide not to ingest actual depressants - alcohol and nicotine - which are literally only going to make it worse?!

consider herself lucky for what?

Oh gosh yes the plastic waste. I’m glad you raised that. It’s shocking the extent to which it just doesn’t seem to cross people’s minds.

Some people have unavoidably miserable lives that they can't change no matter how hard they try. Consider yourself lucky.

Maybe you're encroaching on their space.

If there were decent extraction systems in pubs, then smoking & vaping wouldn't be a problem. Suck it all straight out. I vape & if I'm at my mum's, I vape under the cooker hood & it goes straight outside.

Yes! It's disgusting and I am sick of inhaling and smelling it. However, they will never ban it unfortunately

Dunno, I'm not a smoker or Vaper and I wish it wasn't allowed outside cafes, but on the other hand, smokers are already pretty limited in where they can smoke, and I kind of feel the poor buggers are already vilified, and shit if they can't smoke outside where can they smoke....but then again I don't like walking through the smoke, I mean the best thing would be the invention of smell free cigarettes and vapes!

Calling working class plebs is disgusting whether they smoke or not.

It’s tough. Don’t live near buildings with balconies if you’re going to be that precious. You can’t dictate people’s behaviour in their own home.

I'd prefer a ban on vaping indoors (in public buildings). People vape at some of the pubs I go to and I hate it. I don't understand why management don't stop them.

But if it drifts back into your neigbours' homes it's rank. I think it would be well received.

I have never smoked in my life, but actually I would fully defend people's right to smoke. I rarely smell it, even in London, but the point is that competent adults should be allowed to make their own decisions. This concept of banning everything that is bad for us is just small-minded and depressing.

Balconies are an integral part of a flat or house. You can’t stop people from smoking on their own property.

Ban smoking within 10m of a building, including balconies, would make a big difference.