Expected to start teams meetings?

He's your manager and if he's asking you to start meetings first then that's what you should do. Like others have said you can put yourself on mute and wait for him to join. You can still study your training materials until he joins. If he's in back to back meetings and one over runs he'll be waiting to see if you join the meeting before leaving one earlier for no reason

Yeah he's not going to end a meeting in the hopes you remember to turn up

I think he's probably irritated that you haven't been ready for him at previous meetings despite doing self directed work at the moment. He doesn't see it as you giving him the space to finish off whatever he was doing and being ready to drop in as soon as he says he's ready for you, he sees it as you thinking your time is more important than his and that you think he should be prompting you. Whereas he thinks his time as more important and that you should have everything ready so he can drop in when he's ready.

I suspect (based on bosses I've had) he's a bit disorganized, runs everything up to the wire, gets distracted easily and relies on prompts like you starting the meeting to move him on from one task to the other. But he frames that in his head as him being super busy and important.

It's kind of irrelevant though, as I'm sure you've realised, he's your boss and you just need to suck it up.

I’m sure this has been said a million times already, but if you’re sitting there doing nothing reading training materials, then it’s not at all unreasonable for your boss to expect you to start all the meetings! You’ve said yourself that he’s got back-to-back meetings, so you starting the meeting (and generating the “meeting started” dialogue box) is HIS prompt to say “gotta go, due in another meeting”… It really is that simple!

To be fair, is this is all you’ve got to worry about at work, I’m very envious of your job!

Ahhh the old Mumsnet trope of ignoring what else was said and focusing on one part.
You don't like it so speak to him. Or suck it up and do as you've been asked.

That's the choices you realistically have. You've made it clear on here you're not happy, you think anyone who calls a superior "boss" is outdated. You don't seem to want to take advice. So again why put it on here? Lots have people have given you different perspectives but you say he demanded so that's that.
As you say we don't know you or you us so people can only offer advice based on your comments and how that comes across. Hopefully you can find a solution that you're happy with and works for you and your direct line (not sure what he is in your workplace)

Did you read the suggestions that he might be in another meeting which he will wind up when he sees you're ready?

Why assume he's on a power trip?

Your attitude stinks.

I expect if you carry on as you are, you won't need to worry about who starts the meetings anymore.

Also OP if you’re new to the job and in your probation maybe just stop acting like a dick?

Regardless of who set the meeting up, I would join it and start it on time. I'd split my screen and work on something else until he joined.

He really isn’t. Perhaps he can’t understand why a new employee trying to make a good impression wouldn’t attend the meeting in time and start the meeting at the prescribed time.

He isn’t demanding let’s be clear. He’s your boss, you didn’t show up to a meeting on time (and yeah that means more when you are new), he should know you aren’t in meetings so no reason to be late and you are complaining.

Join the meeting on time and understand corporate culture,

LOL. Just calling it out because if you make a comment about boomers on here the oldies all cry. Why can’t I call it out back?

😂oh dear oh dear oh dear.

HI Op - this is fairly standard for someone junior to start, its not a hard and fast rule, its more of an 'unwritten rule' where i am - personally (i am a manager) i dont quite care who starts the call first, people are busy, meetings over run etc, but i am in the minority - im my own company, its the juniors who are always assumed to have to start the meeting. If your diary is empty-ish - then i dont see the issue, you might be thoughtful in the reasons behind your process of starting late - but meetings should start on time, he will turn up when he does, but it needs to be started. Sound like he is a bit more traditional in the manager-junior stance.

🤣🤪

I can see why you did this, but no harm in joining first and waiting.
I think manager was a bit rude to say are you joining when they hadn't joined meeting themselves.
I think it's just a communication thing/differing expectations.
It's not a big issue. Just explain why you hadn't started it but say next time you'll start meeting and wait for then to join.
In our organisation anyone can be the first to join, there's no expectation that it has to be either a junior or senior member of staff to join first/start meeting

OP. As starting a Teams meeting takes a nanosecond, is probably a daily action for hundreds of thousands of workers and is not some sort of punishment, what exactly is the problem?

I guess it's a bit like back in the day if you were meeting him in his office at a certain time, you might sit in the nice waiting area outside and let his secretary know you were there.

@surrpundedby are you in the NHS (corporate)?

No point arguing with the manager OP. Or just leave and find a different job if this one is too much hassle for you.

This!

It would freak me out too, OP, first week in a new job and all, but you didn't do anything wrong. It was just a misunderstanding and you'll know next time.

By the sound of it your manager doesn’t want the stress and responsibility for starting the meetings so as to prevent people from be kept waiting. He / she was probably taken aback that you were late to the meeting, which would indicate poor time keeping, rudeness etc.

This thread is reminding me of a radio phone-in show about employers finding it difficult to hire new young employees who are grounded, capable, and have any semblance of work ethic. They are all feelings, and imagined slights, and 'I have better things to do today, you don't mind do you'. 🤣

If a meeting starts at 10, you join at that time and then wait on mute. Teams notifications don’t always pop up when someone starts the call so it’s safer that way. I say this as someone who always waits for their manager to join!

We are expected to be there on time - everyone joining, whoever happens to be first starts the meeting. If the person chairing the call isn't there, there's usually some chat first, which may or may not be work-related. If someone will be late, regardless of ran, they will message to say so.

However, in my previous place, we used different meeting software, and by default, the person arranging the meeting had to open it, unless they'd had the foresight to clicking the "any attendant can open meeting" button, which many meeting arrangers forgot to do.

So I think it can depend on company culture and software configuration.