Expected to start teams meetings?

It’s not ego pandering. It’s recognition that the senior person is the most likely to be justifiably late as they are waylaid every 5 minutes with issues above your pay grade, and the meeting should be ready to go when they get there. It’s never ever bothered me starting a meeting and waiting for them, you just put on mute and keep working, or have desultory chat with the others on the call.

I just join at the start time and wait for others to join. I think you’re both being weird waiting on each other. Just join at the right time.

I think this thread epitomizes the difficulties in managing people. Some people just don’t like being told what to do. They don’t see why someone else gets ‘power’ over them just because of a job title.

so they rebel against it. This lady doesn’t see any difference between her and her boss. What should she do as he asks unless she agrees with his logic. Why should she wait for him - she is already annoyed about having to read training documents. So she is doing that - he can dance to her tune!

I suspect this lady will fight against every line manager she has - rebel against every company rule. She will be branded as difficult and people won’t want to work with her. But she will always believe she is right.

This is amazing. I've never heard before of someone only waiting for others to join before they will join a meeting. Hope there aren't too many external calls!!

OP - Your manager has asked you to turn up on time for meetings, and has clarified that you can do that by opening the meeting invitation at the correct time. You don't need to waste energy with all this angst about junior, power play, fretting about what your manager is doing each minute etc; you're paid to be at your job and one of the ways in which you can you demonstrate that you're doing your job is by turning up to meetings on time.

But you are not in meetings that.over run?

Yes, because every time they have a teams meeting, she is late to it (for no reason other than she's gormlessly waiting for him to start it).

The norm is to start the meeting at the appointed time and wait until everyone joins. It's not taking her away from anything to be on teams on time.

I think it's become a matter of hierarchy because she's repeatedly not ready when expected.

It’s already been made clear throughout the the thread why. What aren’t you understanding?

So. That’s not really different to what the poster wrote so what are we misunderstanding?

I think you're misunderstanding OP (and me). Her manager wants her to be the one that actually switches the meeting on, as it were.

Christ, you sound about 12

Odd perspective, the young always did question everything both the "right" and the "wrong" things, it's how times change though the decades. Are you gen X by any chance?

As posters have said, millennials are not the newbies in the work place, I've 25 years experience in my field and I'm a millennial. Even older "gen z" will be approaching 30 in the next few years. I never quite get the need to see age so to speak in the work place, younger or older, everyone has strengths/weaknesses.

so if your now saying your (still ridiculous over generalisation with no evidence whatsoever) comment was actually aimed towards people who are 'new to the workplace' then you shouldn't have even used millennial in the first place, as the absolute youngest millennials are 28, and thus fairly unlikely to be starting their first jobs at that age....

In addition to the fact that there is literally no evidence to confirm how old the OP is....

In my work it's join at the start of the meeting, doesn't really matter who gets there first!
I wouldn't just sit there and not join a meeting, if the other person/people are running late I would expect them to message they'll be there in 5 or whatever

In my workplace whoever is ready at the allotted time starts the meeting and if the other is running late they'd send a message in chat to let the person waiting know - I'll then message to say I'm getting a cup of tea while I'm waiting. My boss often sees the meeting start and is prompted to join because her head has been in something else. I'd never just sit waiting for her to start the meeting.

I really don't think it s power move.
He's just busy and thinking between calls.

He'd like you to start it as a prompt.

Help your boss out. If you want to get good projects and support.

When you are a manager you will see how it works.

Until then help him out.

Fabulous

This. I would already have your card marked. If I was your manager.

You need to recover this situation fast.

You have probation to pass presumably?

Start the meeting.
They will be exhausted with back to back meetings all day.
Don't try and justify your position.
It's your boss. Do you want to annoy them.
You've just started this role.

They have asked you to start it. So start it.

Slagging off people because of their date of birth does not scream high IQ.

This thread needs to go into classics I think!

I hadn’t read the entire thread when I replied a minute ago.

I don’t understand how this is even a thing?

so neither of you joined? How did he know you weren’t there if he hadn’t joined?

i thought it was whoever did the invite is the one who has to “start” it? But you join on time regardless and it will have a different message depending on if others have joined yet….

very unusual mind sight to not even join; even if you think boss will likely be late. You can use your computer as normal until they arrive.

reading work posts on MN makes me feel very lucky sometimes. My work is apparently very laid back and flexible.

The meeting can’t “start” on teams until more than one person is on

so he would have had a “as soon as the meeting starts ….” Message on his screen

I don’t think it’s about what position starts a meeting - join at the right time and if he’s, he’s late. You can still something else whilst you wait

No, apparently he wasn't in an overlapping meeting, he just wants her to be first on principle.

There was nothing deletable about your comment!

OP its not a weird rule.
I run my team exactly the same.

They are all really busy and so am I. As you say in your OP he is in back to back so may take a few mins to grab a drink or bathroom break.

I also know my team are busy, it's essentially their meeting to catch up with me, so as soon as I seen them join I will know they are ready and jump on too.

They might be in back to backs and overrun too so it's a time saver for everyone. They are on, I see the notification so I join.

You are reading way too much into this and the "power play" thing cracked me up, it's like something out of a 90s movie.