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Expected to start teams meetings?

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surrpundedby · 29/10/2024 14:40

I’ve started a new job and my diary for now is very empty with few meetings and there’s quite a lot of training material that I have to go through.

My manager is always in back to back meetings and he’s put two 30 minute catchups in with me for the first month. From experience meetings tend to overrun so I’ve waited for him to be ready for our call and then I’ll hop on as I’m just reading - or he might need a loo break or get a drink.

Today it got to 5 past our meeting and he messaged me to say “are you joining”. So I started the call and he said that I am expected to always start the meetings.

Obviously once I’m more busy I won’t even give it a second thought as to who starts a meeting, but this seems such a weird rule to me.

OP posts:
coxesorangepippin · 29/10/2024 15:36

The majority of posters on this board are over 60, so don’t be surprised by the outdated responses on this post.

^

Yeah.

We can barely work a cell phone, it's all ink and quills to us

doodleygirl · 29/10/2024 15:35

If I’m first in the meeting I will start it, I wouldn’t wait for someone else to start and make myself deliberately late, that’s just weird.

OP I am going to assume you are frustrated because you are really coming across as very aggressive, maybe take 5.

SageBlossomBunny · 29/10/2024 15:35

He's probably just confused you weren't there. Especially in a new job.

Turning up to a meeting late (which you not going into the room is) is really abd form.

I think you've got hung up on "starting" a meeting when it's not really a thing.

Just turn up to meetings on time (which shouldn't be spelt out to someone), "join" and then carry on doing whatever.

By telling you to "join" on time he's not making a dance about "starting" just literally telling you to turn up to work on time!!!

Noones sat there "waiting" other than once they're in the room. Before the meetings started people tend to be caught up in work. I 100% am sure he wasn't sat doing nothing waiting for you to join first heich is what you seem to think?

Are you new to teams? Honestly just turn up to meetings on time, join on time and it will soon become second nature I promise.

coxesorangepippin · 29/10/2024 15:35

And sometimes you can’t help turning up late to a teams meeting. You’re seriously telling me you’ve never once been in a meeting that’s overrun by 2 or 3 minutes?

^

You're new?

Do you have a probation period. it will be extended

PassCaring · 29/10/2024 15:34

Got to love a ageist dig.

How do you know he was waiting for you to start the meeting? Could have on a comfort break, chatting in office, writing up notes. He has set the etiquette clearly. Just follow it.

DinosaurMunch · 29/10/2024 15:34

surrpundedby · 29/10/2024 14:54

Yeah thank you, that’s my whole point.

He is demanding I start all meetings. So he’s seemingly happy to sit there until I decide to start the meeting.

I had a reason for waiting for him, and if he doesn’t think it’s valid or needed then fine. But I don’t see why there has to be a rule of the person less senior starting it?

Well obviously because you are turning up late to all meetings and he wants you to be on time. He wants you there on time to start the meeting so he isn't wasting more time waiting for you. He's senior and busier so just do what he asks. It's hardly unreasonable

Icedbear · 29/10/2024 15:33

I generally find work life runs better when you look to help your boss rather than be put out at every little thing.....

dollyop · 29/10/2024 15:32

You sound like a real pain.

Just join the meeting at the allocated time. No need to make a big deal out of it. Doesn't matter what your boss is or isn't doing.

Icedbear · 29/10/2024 15:32

surrpundedby · 29/10/2024 15:22

Thankfully I’ve never had a manager before that pulls power moves and see anyone below them as the little people.

You think because someone is (gasp) a manager that it entitles them to sit staring at a screen and refusing a start a meeting because they deem themselves as too senior?

He's not asking you to sit staring at the screen. He's asking you to be "in the room" when the meeting is scheduled to start. You can carry on with whatever else you need to do until he gets there.

Occasionally someone runs late for a meeting, everyone's even later if they all have to login after that person.

MrSeptember · 29/10/2024 15:32

You are being so weird about this. For a start, yes, in many heirachical organisations it would be considered perfectly normal that if anyone is goign to wait, it's the junior person.

But either way, in a situation like this, surely it makes sense for you to start th emeeting - he's already rnning late, struggling to get everything done, so now having to wait for you to join the meeting adds another layer of delay to his day. and yes, as your manager, that's even worse.

Charlotte120221 · 29/10/2024 15:31

It's just not a big deal - you can start the meeting and carry on with your work until he joins.

why so angry?

Hopelessinhomecounties · 29/10/2024 15:31

You sound like hard work OP. He sounds frantic so the best thing for you to do is make sure you’re available for the slot. He will know you’re not busy with meetings and you can manage the training material flexibly. Hopefully you just said ‘ok. Will do’. Rather than pushing back?

Gabbyghoul · 29/10/2024 15:30

The majority of posters on this board are over 60, so don’t be surprised by the outdated responses on this post.

What? 😂

OneMoreCornettoPls · 29/10/2024 15:29

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NewFriendlyLadybird · 29/10/2024 15:29

surrpundedby · 29/10/2024 15:22

Thankfully I’ve never had a manager before that pulls power moves and see anyone below them as the little people.

You think because someone is (gasp) a manager that it entitles them to sit staring at a screen and refusing a start a meeting because they deem themselves as too senior?

Not necessarily a power move — probably just what he’s used to.

You sound very hard work. Try to fit in and run along with the general culture or you won’t last very long.

Icedbear · 29/10/2024 15:29

I don't think it matter who starts the meeting, but I would expect people to be there on time, so it's all ready to go when Mr Important manages to join.

Gabbyghoul · 29/10/2024 15:28

You sound like you have a huge chip on your shoulder.

85isalive · 29/10/2024 15:28

Now you know he wants you to start and he'll join when he can. So, just do that from now on. It's not that big a deal.

Sure, he could do it instead, but he's your manager and he wants you to do it.

Commonsense22 · 29/10/2024 15:27

It's not a power move. It's because the more senior you are, the more critical stuff you have on your plate and you need juniors to pull their weight where they can, like making themselves available for the meeting when it's due to start.

Waiting for your manager to start shows you value your time too much and his too little.

decorativecushions · 29/10/2024 15:26

You sound like a 'difficult to manage ' type.

Are you always this pedantic and nit picky?

AlohaRose · 29/10/2024 15:26

Join at the start time. No need for anyone to sit staring at a screen or twiddling their thumbs. Join the meeting and if you are first continue with the training materials or sending an email or proofreading something or whatever it is you are up to. When the other participant(s) arrives, the meeting starts! Seems simple to me. If you had started the meeting on time and your boss was in fact busy (which he may have been, just because he didn't have a meeting in his diary doesn't mean he wasn't on the phone for example or speaking to someone in the office) then you continue work and he joins once he is free.

Heidi00 · 29/10/2024 15:24

surrpundedby · 29/10/2024 15:08

Which again is exactly what he’s doing.

If forward thinking is someone clicking a teams button then that’s worrying.

Hes more senior than you, if he wants to join late he can. You sound absolutely daft and arrogant and no wonder he called you out on it.

surrpundedby · 29/10/2024 15:22

WYorkshireRose · 29/10/2024 15:16

Your manager can do what he likes, he's THE MANAGER. You've been directed to join the meeting at the start time, so that's what you do. To be honest it's what most people would logically do anyway but as he's had to spell it out to you I'd just do it, unless you have a genuine reason not to e.g. previous meeting overrunning.

Thankfully I’ve never had a manager before that pulls power moves and see anyone below them as the little people.

You think because someone is (gasp) a manager that it entitles them to sit staring at a screen and refusing a start a meeting because they deem themselves as too senior?

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queenmeadhbh · 29/10/2024 15:21

Agree or not, it is fairly widespread in lots of offices and industries that the more junior you are, the less your time is worth. So what he means is “why would I waste my time starting the meeting when I don’t know you’re ready yet - I could end up waiting for you - please start meeting as soon as you can so I will know to join”.
You, however, cannot say the same back. So what you need to do is join the meeting on time and wait for him to arrive.

you seem to be put out that there is a double standard. It may not be fair but it is pretty common so either adapt or find a company with a very flat hierarchy.

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