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To think this is an insane verdict

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DancingNotDrowning · 29/10/2024 13:33

pilot who takes lost girl back to his hotel not guilty of kidnap and assault.

unbelievable verdict, poor girl.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2xv1yx83o.amp

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 30/10/2024 17:35

AlecTrevelyan006 · 30/10/2024 15:15

Well that's not a surprise is it?
I wonder how the jurors must feel having given him the benefit of the doubt?

DancingNotDrowning · 30/10/2024 17:31

That's bizarre that the police would leave it until he was leaving court to arrest him

sometimes the police/CPS take the view that a less serious case (especially one where there is not an identifiable victim) is not worth pursuing if it would not add anything in terms of sentence or monitoring (i.e. defendant is already serving a lengthy custodial sentence and on the sec offenders register). Essentially it wouldn’t be seen as a good use of resources and therefore not in public interest.

However since he was acquitted and therefore presumably due to be released they decided it was very much in the public interest.

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Dotjones · 30/10/2024 15:31

That's bizarre that the police would leave it until he was leaving court to arrest him. Surely they hadn't just discovered the alleged offences that morning? I don't buy the argument that it might prejudice his trial either, it's perfectly possible to arrest someone and not inform the jury. Hell, we saw a couple of weeks ago that previous convictions weren't notified to the jury in the police shooting case.

Opaque58 · 30/10/2024 14:36

https://archive.ph/IEmtP

user47 · 30/10/2024 14:30

It's madness - his wife had a restraining order against him after he sexually assaulted her. Britain is a shamefully dangerous place to be a girl.

PortobelloToad · 30/10/2024 14:15

PhoebeFeels · 30/10/2024 14:09

A lot of aspects to this have not been tested.
The family of the child. Do we know anything about it?
How did the child became separated?

Read the articles. The NY Post one has a lot of details. I think there’s a Times one but it’s paywalled.

Meanwhile, the girl’s family and Harrods security scoured the area for the missing child — and eventually zeroed in on footage of her being led away by a man.
“I saw my wife going inside the shop holding the hand of my other child and then they went inside Harrods. After 15 seconds we asked ourselves, ‘Where is my daughter?’ We didn’t know if she came inside Harrods or if she remained outside. I started panicking,” the girl’s father told the court through a French interpreter last week, according to the Times of London.
“I thought she was lost but when I saw the picture of the man I thought that she could’ve been abducted.”

Ex-US Air Force officer who took lost girl, 9, back to his apartment for 2 hours acquitted of kidnapping and sex assault charges

‘I did not touch [the girl] in the way she described. I’m not sure why she would say that,” Prussak told jurors, according to a report.

https://nypost.com/2024/10/29/world-news/ex-air-force-pilot-robert-prussak-acquitted-of-kidnap-sex-assault-of-girl-in-london/

PhoebeFeels · 30/10/2024 14:09

A lot of aspects to this have not been tested.
The family of the child. Do we know anything about it?
How did the child became separated?

ChristmasisinManchester · 30/10/2024 13:32

Opaque58 · 30/10/2024 13:25

I think they can retry the case if new evidence emerges but not totally sure.

Well he’s currently arrested an in custody over illegal images of children in his computer - allegedly.

hoping the digital evidence is water tight and the judge likes grudges.

Naunet · 30/10/2024 13:32

RadioBamboo · 29/10/2024 17:33

YABU. Twelve jurors heard all the evidence and acquitted him. You've just read a news article about it.

And we all know a jury always makes the right decision, especially in rape and sexual abuse cases. It’s a mystery isn’t it, why women don’t have faith in their wisdom?

🙄

Poor kid, I just hope she’s doing ok.

ChristmasisinManchester · 30/10/2024 13:31

PhoebeFeels · 29/10/2024 14:11

It seems as if the prosecution team might have been GCSE kids on work experience.

This is absolutely unbelievable.

how can anyone have a sense of justice? I don’t know how to get over this

Opaque58 · 30/10/2024 13:25

I think they can retry the case if new evidence emerges but not totally sure.

AmberAlert86 · 30/10/2024 13:12

Would parents of the girl be able to complain further and bring back the case in front of jury again? Especially with new evidence of Prussak being a pedo. I'm not familiar with UK laws but some countries victims can complain to "higher" court of that makes sense.

Opaque58 · 30/10/2024 12:46

ginasevern · 30/10/2024 12:36

As if we were ever in any doubt about that poor little girl.

Absolutely awful. So she obviously wasn’t believed. Also must be so frustrating for the police investigating this.

ginasevern · 30/10/2024 12:36

As if we were ever in any doubt about that poor little girl.

DanielaDressen · 30/10/2024 11:42

I hope his two daughters are safe. Didn’t he say they’re the same age as this girl? Without a guilty verdict his ex wife will have no grounds to prevent access. Though hopefully if he is convicted of any other similar offence in the near future that might prevent him ffrom unsupervised access to them.

AgathaMystery · 30/10/2024 11:17

I don’t think he will go to prison. A custodial sentence for images is unusual.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 30/10/2024 11:16

dewfirst · 30/10/2024 10:40

I thought I was exempt for life; the rules have changed and after retirement I was called onto a jury this year. So frustrating to hear what some of my fellow jurors were saying at first; he doesn't look like he's guilty, nicely dressed etc and those comments were made by both men and women prior to hearing any evidence.
I had to be so careful to just listen to what was presented in court , only the people who were there will know all that was said .There was such a lot that wasn't mentioned in court and as jurors we could not look at any other information sources throughout the trial.
After 3 weeks we delivered a guilty verdict on all counts (there were many). This was a predatory paedophile so given multiple life sentences. Jurys are fallible and easily manipulated but on this occasion I had some of my faith restored . It wasn't easy and frankly a pretty traumatising experience.
What we learned later about his history was devastating but the defendant had a fair hearing.
In this case I am so sad that the Pilot was acquitted but reckon that as he was immediately re-arrested the evidence of possession is robust .
Prison for a long time, such a pity it will be here in a sex offenders wing rather than in a sweat tent in Arizona.

Scotland and N. Ireland retained the legally qualified exclusions. I'm not just exempt but ineligible whilst practising and for 5 years after I retire. That will take me to 71 where I can then claim exemption as over 71.

TheaBrandt · 30/10/2024 11:11

Well every days a school day!

dewfirst · 30/10/2024 10:40

TheaBrandt · 30/10/2024 05:58

Ifyoulook how were you on jury service if you’re a solicitor? We’re exempt?

I thought I was exempt for life; the rules have changed and after retirement I was called onto a jury this year. So frustrating to hear what some of my fellow jurors were saying at first; he doesn't look like he's guilty, nicely dressed etc and those comments were made by both men and women prior to hearing any evidence.
I had to be so careful to just listen to what was presented in court , only the people who were there will know all that was said .There was such a lot that wasn't mentioned in court and as jurors we could not look at any other information sources throughout the trial.
After 3 weeks we delivered a guilty verdict on all counts (there were many). This was a predatory paedophile so given multiple life sentences. Jurys are fallible and easily manipulated but on this occasion I had some of my faith restored . It wasn't easy and frankly a pretty traumatising experience.
What we learned later about his history was devastating but the defendant had a fair hearing.
In this case I am so sad that the Pilot was acquitted but reckon that as he was immediately re-arrested the evidence of possession is robust .
Prison for a long time, such a pity it will be here in a sex offenders wing rather than in a sweat tent in Arizona.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 30/10/2024 09:06

If that man had been say a Somalian migrant, I imagine a very different outcome

IfYouLook · 30/10/2024 09:03

TheaBrandt · 30/10/2024 05:58

Ifyoulook how were you on jury service if you’re a solicitor? We’re exempt?

Not the case for quite some time. I was first called in 2004 after the exemption was lifted but didn’t serve. Served in 2019. There were two solicitors on our jury by coincidence.

There is Law Society guidance on how to behave though:

“However, the guidance advised solicitors not to express any advice or opinion on the law or any direction on the law given by the judge, or on the reasons for the jury being asked to leave the court during a trial even if asked “

CommonAsMucklowe · 30/10/2024 08:59

Anewuser · 29/10/2024 19:27

I’ve always wanted to do jury service but have never been invited.

My husband says I would never be picked anyway because I believe, “they’re all guilty and we should have the bastards.”

It seems very hard to see how he was found not guilty.

I'm the same, if the CPS has said go for it then they're guilty!