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Friend hasn’t brought up my pregnancy once

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Padronpeppersplease · 29/10/2024 09:41

Just want to preface this by saying that I KNOW other people’s pregnancies are just not that interesting to other people, and also that pregnancy announcements can be triggering for a host of reasons. That said, I’m starting to feel like I’m just not being treated very respectfully by my friend and it’s really starting to get me down, I’d appreciate people’s opinions! I’m currently 24 weeks pregnant - very happy about the pregnancy, am in a happy relationship and relatively OK financially. I told this friend my news after the 12 week scan on WhatsApp, she said congratulations but then met her for a coffee a week later and she didn’t say anything else about it, when I bought it up myself I felt she was quite terse and since then I have avoided the subject. However, I then messaged her again after my 20 week scan to say that I was having a girl - again, she did message congratulations, but I then went to meet her and she didn’t mention the fact I was having a girl at all. This is in contrast to basically everyone else, again I’m not expecting anybody to want to discuss pregnancy at length but even just a basic acknowledging comment like ‘oooh so you’re having a girl!’ type thing would be nice. As I’ve said I’m not insensitive to the fact that people can struggle with this news, I’ve had miscarriages myself and also an abortion and have been triggered by the pregnancy news of friends, however I’ve at least put on a show of excitement for them. Am I being unreasonable to expect my friend who I considered myself to be very close to to demonstrate some mild interest in my pregnancy and not to feel like it’s a taboo subject I can’t mention?

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Nanny0gg · 29/10/2024 19:30

wizar · 29/10/2024 10:06

YABU

you're right people don't care, outside of a few direct relatives and maybe a couple of extremely close friends, it really is something people don't care about.

Here's a home truth, if you insist the whole world should revolve around giving you attention because you're having a baby, then you're going to find being a parent really hard and you're doing it for the wrong reasons. Let me guess you've already posted your announcement and then watched to see how many likes it gets, and you've planned out how to announce the birth on social media too... people don't care.

Having had an abortion and a miscarriage followed by a pregnancy doesn't give you a view of how hard it is to never have a child, maybe your friend is in that boat. They said congratulations when you threw it in their face without them asking twice. What more do you want? A big party of attention where everyone says how great it is that you have a fetus in your uterus?

Wow!

Threw it in their face??

It's perfectly normal to share news of a pregnancy with a friend - and to expect some interest

Zanatdy · 29/10/2024 19:26

Definitely not normal to not acknowledge but i’d think there would be a reason for it

Allswellthatendswelll · 29/10/2024 19:24

OP what do you tend to talk about with this friend usually?

People are making lots of assumptions on this thread. The friend could be going through something related to infertility or struggling to decide whether to have children. Equally she could just be very self absorbed and not interested in any aspect of your life. Or she could just not be interested in children at all. Which is fine but depending on how strong the friendship is you might drift apart.

I think it's interesting that people are piling on the OP when the friends reaction to her miscarriage was 'children aren't the be all and end all'. Which doesn't sound very supportive really.

I would expect my friends to be mildly interested in my pregnancy. If I knew it was triggering for them I wouldn't go on about it. But if we met up for a mutually agreed coffee and I wasn't aware of any issue I'd expect 5 mins of chit chat on it yes! I think most people in the real world would.

daliesque · 29/10/2024 18:46

Padronpeppersplease · 29/10/2024 10:00

I’d also just like to make the point that pregnancy isn’t the only thing that can be triggering for people - someone could be triggered hearing about a friend buying a house because they can’t afford to themselves, or hearing about a friends relationship because they are single, or hearing about a friends flourishing career because they are unemployed, or or or. If you could never bring up any of these things or show happiness ever then what sort of friendship would it be? There’s a big difference between boasting about these things and being insensitive to whatever your friends position is and avoiding the subject altogether.

And no @Westofeasttoday i wasn’t a bridezilla, thanks

Erm, I don't think you can compare a woman being told that she can't have children ever, or unable to have them without a lot of medical intervention and even then not guaranteed, with not being able to buy a house or have a partner.

The latter two are annoying and frustrating, but facing a life without being able to have the family you longed for is a form of bereavement that takes many years to come to terms with.

Now I get that, as a woman who doesn't have, never wanted and am totally bored with all things baby and pregnancy.....but the fact that you don't get it says all we need to know about you.

thepariscrimefiles · 29/10/2024 18:33

Didimum · 29/10/2024 11:27

I would expect friends to pay attention and behave interested in your life altering news beyond a text message. Friendship involves back and forth and interest and concern in each other's lives.

MN is so weird, even at the best of times

The response on here is very odd as most people would enquire how the pregnancy was going/how was the OP feeling, out of politeness if nothing else.

I would ask pregnant colleagues how everything was going, even if we weren't close friends. It's just normal human interaction.

burnoutbabe · 29/10/2024 18:21

But there is to talk about without talking about your body?

Ie how will you manage work /maternity leave?

Or -how you going to rejig your house?

Or -sny last minute holiday plans to squeeze in now?

If I wanted to avoid a pregnant woman I would not go out for a coffee with them-I'd just avoid them.

Pusheen467 · 29/10/2024 18:01

topaz27 · 29/10/2024 16:28

I wouldn't talk about someone's pregnancy unless they brought it up each time.

I'm not interested in babies but I know enough to know that things can go wrong and I don't want to be the person who gushes over how excited someone must be when the woman has had some really awful news she hasn't processed yet.

If you start talking about your baby, I will respond appropriately, but I'm not going to initiate that conversation. I'm happy for you, but you need to prompt me when to make happy noises.

I'm also aware that lots of people will only be talking to you about your baby, and while you're excited, you're more than just a mother-to-be.

Me not constantly bringing up someone's pregnancy is actually me trying to show them space and respect, so they can talk about the pregnancy if they want or not if they need a break. I'm not jealous. I'm not upset. I'm just trying to play to my strengths (someone who isn't that into babies) and offer you some time which can be more about the rest of your life if you want it to be.

That's actually really nice to read. I hated all the attention when pregnant, especially people commenting on my body. It really is like you just become public property and it's all people see.

cansu · 29/10/2024 16:33

It is very unusual for a friend to not mention it so she is clearly struggling with something related to your pregnancy. I would leave it and accept this. Tell others about pregnancy related stuff and talk about other stuff with this person.

topaz27 · 29/10/2024 16:28

I wouldn't talk about someone's pregnancy unless they brought it up each time.

I'm not interested in babies but I know enough to know that things can go wrong and I don't want to be the person who gushes over how excited someone must be when the woman has had some really awful news she hasn't processed yet.

If you start talking about your baby, I will respond appropriately, but I'm not going to initiate that conversation. I'm happy for you, but you need to prompt me when to make happy noises.

I'm also aware that lots of people will only be talking to you about your baby, and while you're excited, you're more than just a mother-to-be.

Me not constantly bringing up someone's pregnancy is actually me trying to show them space and respect, so they can talk about the pregnancy if they want or not if they need a break. I'm not jealous. I'm not upset. I'm just trying to play to my strengths (someone who isn't that into babies) and offer you some time which can be more about the rest of your life if you want it to be.

Parmavioletsgal · 29/10/2024 16:19

Tink3rbell30 · 29/10/2024 16:10

Because it's boring and nobody really cares apart from you, it's just a normal thing.. nothing interesting.

But you make an effort even a 2 min chat about it for people you love and care about.

Parmavioletsgal · 29/10/2024 16:17

I’ve been on both sides OP. Your friends feelings are valid, so are yours.

Having a baby is a huge life event for you and it’s understandable to expect friends to speak about it or check in every so often. If you are getting married, new job, divorced, moving house etc you’re not expecting too much from a best friend to talk about it a little bit.

I have to admit I was also the friend who went quiet during a friend’s pregnancy. Friends were also quiet with me when I was pregnant too. Infertility, loss, unsure about having kids or not, not having a partner and worrying it won’t happen. Pregnancy is definitely a big trigger.

The fact she’s gone quiet or doesn’t discuss it when you bring up I assume somethings going on rather than that she doesn’t care.

I personally would reach out and check in. Just say she’s been quiet and notice baby talk she goes quiet. Say you’re there for her no matter what.

Tink3rbell30 · 29/10/2024 16:10

Because it's boring and nobody really cares apart from you, it's just a normal thing.. nothing interesting.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 29/10/2024 16:05

So what if she is having her own problems, it still makes her a bad friend. After miscarriages and during a difficult IVF journey, I always always made a fuss of pregnant friends and visited new borns laden with gifts. Most were sensitive enough about my situation and didn't go on and on but it was utterly heartbreaking sometimes and i often would come home feeling devastated but i put on a brave face. No matter what is going on i absolutely would never meet a pregnant friend for coffee and not mention they were pregnant!! She is well out of order here. ----

Scotty22 · 29/10/2024 15:59

When I was struggling with infertility I would always say "never say never" then change the subject when anyone asked about me having kids.

When friends announced their pregnancy I could always hold it together long enough to say congratulations and ask how they were keeping then depending where I was in my treatment (failed IVF round, just had a miscarriage or about to start the process again) I may just distance my self for a while if I wasn't feeling in the right frame of mind.

I am sure your friend is happy for you and wishes you well but my be struggling with something in her private life.

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Didimum · 29/10/2024 11:33

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 29/10/2024 11:30

I asked for clarificarion on the use of 'respecting, not commenting on whether or not friends enquire about pregnancy progress

To respect someone is 'to have due regard for their feelings'. That's not an unusual concept to expect of a friend.

Padronpeppersplease · 29/10/2024 11:33

As for the distinction between making enquiries and being respectful - I’d say asking some basic questions about a huge event in your friends life is a form of respect. Never said I want it to be the sole topic of conversation or that I want to have at length discussions about it.

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JudgeJ · 29/10/2024 11:31

Padronpeppersplease · 29/10/2024 11:25

Alright, sure, next time you have news I hope you expect your friends to not enquire after it at all because it’s commonplace

'Enquire after' does not require hours of details, pregnancy is very commonplace after all.

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 29/10/2024 11:30

Didimum · 29/10/2024 11:27

I would expect friends to pay attention and behave interested in your life altering news beyond a text message. Friendship involves back and forth and interest and concern in each other's lives.

MN is so weird, even at the best of times

I asked for clarificarion on the use of 'respecting, not commenting on whether or not friends enquire about pregnancy progress

SmallhopesPenny · 29/10/2024 11:29

Padronpeppersplease · 29/10/2024 11:21

There are some such bitter, bitter posts on here and I’m not talking about everyone that’s disagreed with me. But I’ll correct you @KimberleyClark and “come back” to tell you that I don’t think my friend is suffering from fertility issues, she has previously said (unmprompted) that she’s on the fence about whether to have children or not, of course this may not be the whole truth but there’s certainly no reason to believe she is struggling with infertility.

When I had my miscarriage earlier this year her response was that children weren’t the be all and end all, I think the likelihood is that she’s just not interested and I’m not going to pursue it anymore, it probably will fizzle out.

I know I came on here and asked for opinions and expected there to be disagreements but to take from what I’ve said that I’m an insensitive bridezilla who is throwing my pregnancy in everyone’s face and am only pregnant so I can see the social media likes rack up… really? 😒

Just so you know, I used to pretend I didn't know if I wanted children when I was having fertility issues.

This was because, if I said "yes I want children" I'd be opening myself up to ppl asking me when I was going to start trying. I didn't want to talk about my issues for a whole raft of reasons I won't go into her.

But people would ask me if I wanted children all the time and I would always lie and say "not yet" or "not sure".

JudgeJ · 29/10/2024 11:28

ExtraOnions · 29/10/2024 10:03

Maybe she doesn’t want the topic, of every coffe / meet up, for the next 18 years to be about your child, and is setting the stall out early.

This is your life event, not hers

I was the first of our circle to be pregnant, once we'd told people and they'd congratulated us there would be the 'How are you' when we met up and that was it! Pregnancy is a boring subject, even my own, and we tended to have more interesting things to talk about, this was 40+ years ago when being pregnant wasn't considered to be a unique event as it seems to be today. Once she was born they came and cooed, brought cards and gifts and that was enough from them!

Sahara123 · 29/10/2024 11:28

“ This. A good friend of mine who is genuinely the nicest person ever really really struggled with having children. Whenever someone was pregnant she would smile and that was all she could muster and then go to a private place and cry.”

This is so true. My daughter and her husband are going through fertility issues at the moment, it is all consuming and pretty much all they can think about. Several of her work colleagues and friends are pregnant at the moment, some days it’s as much as she can do not to burst into tears at work.
Took me a year to get pregnant first time, then i lost it so I know quite well how she feels.

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 29/10/2024 11:28

Padronpeppersplease · 29/10/2024 11:25

Alright, sure, next time you have news I hope you expect your friends to not enquire after it at all because it’s commonplace

Enquiring and respecting are two different things

Didimum · 29/10/2024 11:27

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 29/10/2024 11:24

She isn't respecting you??? What type of 'respect' do you imagine you are owed because you are only doing what millions of people do everyday

I would expect friends to pay attention and behave interested in your life altering news beyond a text message. Friendship involves back and forth and interest and concern in each other's lives.

MN is so weird, even at the best of times

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