Age 56. Can't be arsed at work anymore.

Theyll work us till we can work no more!

I wonder if this scenario resonates with anyone:

Involved in the relatively successful implementation of new IT system. 5 years later, no longer supported by the vendor, need a new IT system. First meeting:
Me: Here's the documentation and learnings of "what worked/what didn't work" from the roll out of the current system
Big Boss: Oh we don't need that, we're using Software X, it's the new industry standard
Me: OK, but here's some issues around Software X we'll need to resolve to ensure functionality remains the same as current system
BB: Stop being negative!
<roll out of Software X, users all complain about it taking longer, more complex, bugs etc and eventually impacts on business deliverables>
18 months later...
New Big Boss: Ok, Software X is a total disaster, we need a new system
Me: Here's the doc..
NBB: We don't need that crap. We'll use Software Y, it's the new industry standard
Me: Ok, but how are we going to resolve how Software Y handles...
NBB: Stop being so negative!
Me: OK, I'm out I think another member of the team needs this opportunity

The reason our retirement age was hiked is because we are living too long.

I think for a lot of woman as they get older in jobs they feel they have had enough of working hard for years. Then they don't want to hear about kpi or the latest bright idea from a manager with no life experience. I know several woman who have left jobs or changed jobs to make life better for them.

I have a friend who is working PT at the moment in company x outside the uk. My friend was asked by the boss could they do more hours a few months ago. My friend decided not to do this for a number of reasons. Her boss is doing less work and is passing more of the work load on to their staff. The boss has also had a lot of time off due to sickness and health issues.

Meanwhile some other people have had to do more hours and cover the bosses work load as well as their own when the boss is gone. My friend and another co worker have seen all this happen. My friend is looking into changing jobs in the next 12 months but has some issues to deal with before doing this.

I think that sometimes you have to decide to do what's best for you and not a company or job. If you in a job that you don't like see how you can get out of it be it further training ect.
See if you can access a pension early or see will they let you go PT if you can afford this financially. Stay in a job to build up savings or get debit paid off before looking for another job. Don't leave a job until you have another job to go to.

I think for a lot of woman as they get older in jobs they feel they have had enough of working hard for years. Then they don't want to hear about kpi or the latest bright idea from a manager with no life experience. I know several woman who have left jobs or changed jobs to make life better for them.

I have a friend who is working PT at the moment in company x outside the uk. My friend was asked by the boss could they do more hours a few months ago. My friend decided not to do this for a number of reasons. Her boss is doing less work and is passing more of the work load on to their staff. The boss has also had a lot of time off due to sickness and health issues.

Meanwhile some other people have had to do more hours and cover the bosses work load as well as their own when the boss is gone. My friend and another co worker have seen all this happen. My friend is looking into changing jobs in the next 12 months but has some issues to deal with before doing this.

I think that sometimes you have to decide to do what's best for you and not a company or job. If you in a job that you don't like see how you can get out of it be it further training ect.
See if you can access a pension early or see will they let you go PT if you can afford this financially. Stay in a job to build up savings or get debit paid off before looking for another job. Don't leave a job until you have another job to go to.

Yes I agree, it can be that feeling that as an older person you can’t possibly have knowledge and experience ALREADY that could be valuable! Isn’t “ learning from experience” generally seen as a good business tool?

Who really gives a fuck about KPI's!

There are lots where the older people have learnt and are despairing at the idiocy that people refuse to accept what has been learnt and repeat mistakes over and over and over again

Respect should go both ways and often it doesn't

There are a lot of organisations where older people are taking this attitude. Refusing to learn and change, blocking more effective people coming through and holding back the organisation.

Absolutely agree with you op. I love their enthusiasm and excitement I really do, but as for me… been there, done that, can’t be arsed!!!!!

I haven't commented about anyone's age in a derogatory manner - well, bar the youthful recruiter who treated me like his aged maiden aunt and made me feel redundant as a human at 42.

I've some experience in the life department that has left me very jaded and cynical in the life in general department and less than hopeful I can jolly myself into a new career at my age having lost my business a year ago.

I'm genuinely happy for those able to advance at any age. I'm realistically not among that number. And while my marital status or lack of it may be irrelevant in the workplace, it is part and parcel of my situation.

If my dark humour is distasteful to you, I'm sorry about that, but it's my coping mechanism.

Yea but the point is that the government keep pushing retirement age up and up.

Why keep changing it

I don't think this is a negative or depressing thread. I don't see anything wrong with a woman saying she's had enough. I don't think there's anything wrong with anyone at any age saying that they've had enough....but to this poster in particular, I totally get it. What's wrong with getting to an age and wanting to slow down/do something different/not being gaslighted into feel joy and motivation and enthusiasm every day....particulaly by mostly younger colleagues who just "live for it". To me it's a real account of how some parts of society feel.

I know myself that I was training in my 20s with babies and small children, my 30s saw me taking every career step/promotion/rung/opportunity to better myself and my family.....with school age children and a husband whilst supportive, worked away....my 40s saw me juggling it all... teenagers,young adults, my own health, aging parents, caring for grandparents....my 50s saw me "having enough". My husband is brilliant, the most supportive, resourceful man, but there's no doubt that due to his own work responsibilities (who in the main,paid our bills), the nurturing of children, parents and grandparents were mostly... not solely.... but mostly left to me. And whilst working full time.

I've always wanted to believe that women can have it all. I've told every child, male or female that came through my classroom door that they can do anything that they set their mind to. The reality I have found is very different. I've worked in independent schools where I've truly seen children that will go on to be prime ministers and the such like. I've also met children in inner London state schools that could go on to be prime minister but they're living on the poverty line and have no hope of doing such greatness, sadly. We all want to live in a world where everything is accessible and everyone can be who they want to be and everything is "disney wonderful" ...but life doesn't work out like that.

And back to women having it all, it isn't depressing... some women don't want it all. Some women want portions of it, some women want a balance of it, some women want it all, some women don't want any if it. It doesn't make it depressing or negative, we all feel things differently. I've loved bringing up my children, I've loved working and making a difference to children (where possible) but that doesn't take away the memories of random Friday nights in my 40s, where I'd had a really hard week at work, my first teenager was being bullied at a high school that wasn't interested in him, a younger teenager who needed to go to swimming that night, football the next day, a house that needed cleaning, an overflowing washing and ironing basket, a grandmother in her 90s who needed dinner and a bath and my MIL having cancer treatment....all with my husband being offshore. It's not sympathy I needed, it was life and no I didn't want it all!! I don't think there's anything wrong with a poster who has "had enough", she's entitled to feel it.

There's nothing stopping people from retiring whenever they want.
If they can pay for it.
If you want the state to finance people retiring early... Nope sorry . There isn't any money. In fact even the current retirement age is looking dubious in terms of financing.

Agree with the job flexibility although devil is in the detail.

What has that got to do with work? Unless they're asking about your marital status.
OP, I'm in my early 30's and also bored of the corporate BS.
However you speak in such a derogatory way of young people trying to advance themselves. It isn't employees' fault that we have to play this charade to get promoted. We have lives to finance and mouths to feed (and no, I don't just mean children by that, I'm also supporting elderly parents for example).

You don't have to go above and beyond. But you don't have to knock others either. Smile, do your hours, go home. Fin.

I didn't say that no one enjoys their job.

I just think there needs to be a lot more flexibility with jobs.

And an earlier retirement age.

And I'm going to frame it and throw darts at it.

😂

Not always. Lots of people enjoy their work.

Well I can see why women wanted to work. Otherwise they would have no money at all. And would be completely dependant on their husbands money.

It's the concept of work that needs to change.
And retirement age needs to be lower.

See also an attempt to balance the social care bill.

I was just watching a documentary about Cristiano Ronaldo, the footballer.

In it, he asks his seven year old daughter what she wants to work at when she is older.

She says "nothing! I just want to chill at home".

:)

The clip is on instagram. Everyone in the comments is saying "that's how we feel!"

The argument I've heard is that it's only fair because we wanted equality after all.... hoist by our own blooming petard.....

I don't think is humane really to expect people to work well into their 60s.

I'm 40 and I'm already knackered. I'm in hormonal pain a lot from peri menopause.

It must be even more tiring for people in their fifties and sixties.

If only they let people enjoy their lives a bit more

The change to women's retirement age was hugely regressive, given everything else that women have to suffer. Those extra seven years are going to be very painful. I can't believe that it all happened without much more of a fight.

My dad hated work so much that he retired in his late fifties.

Circumstances helped him a bit..so it does depend on people's circumstances.

He owned a small house. Then after a divorce he met a new girlfriend. He then moved in with her, and rented out the first house. And he lived off the rent.

He told me that he absolutely hated when he worked in an office.