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Age 56. Can't be arsed at work anymore.

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Whosaidthattt · 29/10/2024 00:18

I'm a tired 56 year old. All these 'initiatives' and 'CPD'- I just can't be bothered anymore. Been there, did that 20 years ago. I have NO INTEREST in pretending to be excited/motivated by these 30 year olds and their enthusiasm! I get that they are young and excited about how they can change things but I just can't be arsed. Hoping to retire at 60 but that means another 4 years of excited puppies bounding about with their ideas. I'm not sure I can take it (or even care). How can I get through this final part of working life?? Help!!!

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MellersSmellers · 30/10/2024 17:56

Is there any chance you could change your job to one without the excited puppies and initiavitis?
I definitely felt like you at 58 although I loved my team and liked what we were working on as a team, just not my part in it and all the bullshit that came with a corporate job. However, while being made redundant at 60 gave me a ££nest egg, I'm struggling a bit with retirement I have to admit! I hate not having enough to do. And lets face it, all our financial futures are a bit uncertain and any money you can pack away pre-retirement would be useful.

tommyhoundmum · 30/10/2024 17:55

I felt like that too at 56 and was lucky an early retirement scheme was brought in. Twenty years later, I've never looked back. Lucky at that but not much else. Good luck

bellinisurge · 30/10/2024 17:54

Feel the same. I'm trying not to be one of those eye rolling senior colleagues that used to get on my nerves when I was younger.
Working from home a lot helps. And hinders because I'm more likely to roll my eyes.
I have seen all the initiatives. I was fully behind them back in the day. They fizzled out or turned to shit. Seeing them back again is so wearying.

Hummingbird10 · 30/10/2024 17:44

I feel exactly the same way. No hope of imminent retirement, sadly, but yes.. I hear you.

NextCoffee · 30/10/2024 16:27

No advice, but understand you OP! Your post made me smile as I've been feeling the same since I was 45... I changed jobs and this helped a little and work more on my own, with a slightly older team.

Roarsomemum · 30/10/2024 16:14

WhatterySquash · 30/10/2024 11:05

Yes "have it all" kind of means, or has ended up meaning, "OK you can do all the jobs men do as long as you don't stop doing all the other stuff as well".

💯

Roarsomemum · 30/10/2024 16:13

coxesorangepippin · 30/10/2024 01:42

All well and good saying 'do something else!! Retrain!! Change careers!!!''

I've tried. I want to get into project management and so have tried to get my PMP. But I can't pass the fucking test, and every PM job asks for.

So in the meantime I just take my good salary from my boring, unchallenging job.

And whinge about it on here

This. I get a good salary but am bored.

Gettingbysomehow · 30/10/2024 12:50

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 29/10/2024 11:04

Yes, but @Gettingbysomehow , I stood in a shop years ago listening to a nurse saying exactly the same thing about the handwashing initiative. Some innovations and CPD are bullshit, some badly explained or negotiated, and some are vital, eg updates on new knowledge. Like everything, it depends.

Obviously those things make total sense and are necessary. I'm talking about things like the time we were asked to do a time and motion study for months on end with no additional time given. We had to list every single thing we did with each patient and the number of minutes it took to each task. In a manically busy clinic. I ended up having a mental breakdown snd going off for 3 months. We never heard anything about the time and motion study ever again.

WhatterySquash · 30/10/2024 11:05

Yes "have it all" kind of means, or has ended up meaning, "OK you can do all the jobs men do as long as you don't stop doing all the other stuff as well".

Muchtoomuchtodo · 30/10/2024 07:03

We’ve been told that our generation of women can have it all. It’s 50 years since women have been able to get mortgages and credit cards in their own names.

We’ve been very keen to do just that - to have it all but in reality for lots of us that just means that we do it all. Our willingness to join the world of work hasn’t been met in many cases by men taking a step back. Women end up having children, mostly assuming the burden of childcare, taking on the supervising of homework, organising out of school clubs, housework, shopping, cooking, planning for birthdays, Christmas, holidays etc. That eats up a lot of time and brain space and all on top of working outside of the home.

Our dc are teens now. They still need taxiing about, taking to sporting events most weekends before Monday comes around again, too quickly. Then we have parents who are needing more of our support and, in my case, the added joy of a chronic illness to manage.

If we just had our careers to focus on, I doubt this many of us would be feeling like we’ve had enough of trying to have it all so far in advance of retirement age.

coxesorangepippin · 30/10/2024 01:44

What emily2023 said too

Most of us are trying our bests really

coxesorangepippin · 30/10/2024 01:42

All well and good saying 'do something else!! Retrain!! Change careers!!!''

I've tried. I want to get into project management and so have tried to get my PMP. But I can't pass the fucking test, and every PM job asks for.

So in the meantime I just take my good salary from my boring, unchallenging job.

And whinge about it on here

Em1ly2023 · 29/10/2024 23:53

5128gap · 29/10/2024 11:27

I think you're being rather naive. Women cannot be anything they want to be. Nor can men for that matter, but the restrictions on women are greater. The vast majority of us end up being whatever we are able to be based on our ability (to some extent) but mainly our circumstances and life chances. Its ridiculous to suggest that we could all have satisfying careers be floating around in space or running the country. How many astronauts and prime ministers ard required compared with office workers? There are only so many of the exciting opportunities to go round, and we still compete with men for those on the backfoot.
The majority of the population has to be engaged in the uninspiring but essential grunt work that's actually required and people will pay us to do. Within that I believe we can make the best of it with a positive attitude, and the OP appears to have done this for decades, but now has some not unnatural positivity fatigue.
Women on here are telling you their reality. Don't patronise them with myths about the world you think we should be living in when we can tell you from experience it's not like that.

Definitely this…
Add in women generally assuming the burden of childcare, homework, housework, cooking etc. etc., ageing parents, the very long stretch of perimenopause / menopause, possible illness, life stress, it’s entirely unsurprising that this thread reads as it does.

KimberleyClark · 29/10/2024 22:42

CatusFlatus · 29/10/2024 19:37

Nailed it. Once you see it, it's so obvious. When I worked it out, I was in my 50's and from that point on my objective was to earn as much as possible, doing as little as possible and to achieve financial independence as soon as possible.

I left the workplace at 57 and love my life now. I don't miss work at all.

It really is a problem for the economy though, the waste of lots of 50+ talent and experience.

I left at 58 and also really love live my life now. The only thing I miss is that feeling of escaping from work on a Friday night. But Sunday evenings knowing I haven’t got another working week ahead of me are bliss, and as for Monday mornings they are wonderful.

EffinMagicFairy · 29/10/2024 22:25

I’ve had enough of all the corporate BS at 58, but I work with a great team of people, I can’t get too worked up about new initiatives having seen many come and go, or get rebranded. I delete most of my emails unless they directly relate to my job, my appraisals I don’t even think about, I copy and paste from previous years, maybe tweak it here and there. I do what’s needed in my job very well, hybrid contract, 20 % pay rise this year, so I must be doing something right, makes it more difficult to leave though but chucking a lot of it into my pension.

Fromage1 · 29/10/2024 22:14

Drizzlethru · 29/10/2024 22:07

I so wish women could still retire at 60. The 7 year extra is such a big jump and I didn’t know I should pay more into pensions earlier as didn’t know the age could change!

To be honest though it was a clearly an unfair policy. Why should people be treated differently on gender.

Jammedchakra · 29/10/2024 22:08

SabreIsMyFave · 29/10/2024 22:01

Rubbish. Retiring at 60 isn't going to make you old before your time. What a ludicrous comment. 😆 Speak for yourself!

And just because YOU can't afford to retire til 67, don't begrudge those who can retire (and are going to retire) at 60! Just makes you sound bitter. Some of the happiest, healthiest, most active over 60s I know retired between 55 and 60.

Who on EARTH would keep working past 60 if they didn't have to?! This thread is living proof that most people wish they could retire at 60 - or younger!

I could retire now if it was just about money! I’m 52 I’m worth multiple £m’s. I work because I like it. I intend to work until at least 70.
Who on EARTH? Me!

Drizzlethru · 29/10/2024 22:07

I so wish women could still retire at 60. The 7 year extra is such a big jump and I didn’t know I should pay more into pensions earlier as didn’t know the age could change!

SabreIsMyFave · 29/10/2024 22:01

WillowTit · 29/10/2024 18:17

said me,
less than 365 days until I am 60.
The lump sum I can claim will not last more than 2 years
and then how will i survive.

dont get old before your time folks.
all this talk of not being about to work leading up to 60, yes i know i felt like this a year ago, but plenty of my colleagues work until they are 66 full time.
you have plenty of time for retirement after then, all being well!

Rubbish. Retiring at 60 isn't going to make you old before your time. What a ludicrous comment. 😆 Speak for yourself!

And just because YOU can't afford to retire til 67, don't begrudge those who can retire (and are going to retire) at 60! Just makes you sound bitter. Some of the happiest, healthiest, most active over 60s I know retired between 55 and 60.

Who on EARTH would keep working past 60 if they didn't have to?! This thread is living proof that most people wish they could retire at 60 - or younger!

ForDaringOlivePeer · 29/10/2024 19:54

leftfootinletfootout · 29/10/2024 19:17

@ForDaringOlivePeer who pissed on your chips ? You have no idea what my job involves and I am perfectly entitled to feel as I do - as I said I am old and grumpy and I couldn't give a fuck

Your first sentence should be redirected back towards yourself.
As to what you're entitled to feel... Well, you are correct, and I am also entitled to comment on your entitlement :) that's sort of how forums work.

CatusFlatus · 29/10/2024 19:42

nonumbersinthisname · 29/10/2024 14:59

I wonder if this scenario resonates with anyone:

Involved in the relatively successful implementation of new IT system. 5 years later, no longer supported by the vendor, need a new IT system. First meeting:
Me: Here's the documentation and learnings of "what worked/what didn't work" from the roll out of the current system
Big Boss: Oh we don't need that, we're using Software X, it's the new industry standard
Me: OK, but here's some issues around Software X we'll need to resolve to ensure functionality remains the same as current system
BB: Stop being negative!
<roll out of Software X, users all complain about it taking longer, more complex, bugs etc and eventually impacts on business deliverables>
18 months later...
New Big Boss: Ok, Software X is a total disaster, we need a new system
Me: Here's the doc..
NBB: We don't need that crap. We'll use Software Y, it's the new industry standard
Me: Ok, but how are we going to resolve how Software Y handles...
NBB: Stop being so negative!
Me: OK, I'm out I think another member of the team needs this opportunity

Yep. Totally!

CatusFlatus · 29/10/2024 19:37

ForDaringOlivePeer · 29/10/2024 17:42

The funny thing is, the directive for change in large organisations come from the top. Who are these executives...usually older people.
Also it's them that make the decision to hire all these 'young' people. And give them carte blanche.
Usually execs operate on a 5 year lifespan (after which they rinse and repeat in another org)... So they don't actually CARE about longevity or blockers. They just want something delivered quickly that looks good to the board, get their kudos and bam next job.

Hmmm... A lot like our dear government actually.

I'm only 30+ but already aware of this because of the nature of my work. Many people don't get it until they're much further in their career.

So I make my decision, do what I have to do understanding the way of the world. Do I like it? No. Can I do anything about it? Usually, no.

Edited

Nailed it. Once you see it, it's so obvious. When I worked it out, I was in my 50's and from that point on my objective was to earn as much as possible, doing as little as possible and to achieve financial independence as soon as possible.

I left the workplace at 57 and love my life now. I don't miss work at all.

It really is a problem for the economy though, the waste of lots of 50+ talent and experience.

leftfootinletfootout · 29/10/2024 19:17

@ForDaringOlivePeer who pissed on your chips ? You have no idea what my job involves and I am perfectly entitled to feel as I do - as I said I am old and grumpy and I couldn't give a fuck

ForDaringOlivePeer · 29/10/2024 18:36

leftfootinletfootout · 29/10/2024 18:02

I'm a 50 something and completely feel like this, hoping to get out at 57. Far too many young uns posting 'look at my classroom' on TikTok, or 'here's my teacher outfits for the week'. Too much to excitement about stuff I've seen a thousand times.
I'm a definite old, grumpy fart and I couldn't care less

But how is their excitement affecting you?
Fair enough if SLT is using this to push forward new initiatives etc. or if they're not actually competent.
But unless they're insisting on you being in their TikTok videos what's the problem.

And in fact...if this is the main reason you want to get out you're extremely lucky. Not mountains of paperwork, being threatened with a knife by students or god forbid their parents.
Or like my MIL bullied and forced out due to being older, more experienced and more expensive.
Nope, just new joiners being enthusiastic about their jobs. How terrible.we should tell them all to pipe down immediately.

mrshoho · 29/10/2024 18:21

I'm 54 and feeling similar. The amount of exciting new initiatives often revealed to a loud fanfare that we are expected to get on board with is getting boring these days. Reinventing the wheel over and over and over. I have to keep my thoughts to myself and smile and nod.