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Once a cheat?

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Rascal741 · 28/10/2024 21:37

AIBU, to say, almost always once a cheat, always a cheat?

My friend of 20 years got herself involved with a married man. She said the relationship was done despite him still living with his DW and teen DC's. DW found out, distraught and removed him from family home, so I imagine she wasn't aware the marriage was dead. They have continued a relationship. Its been 1.5yr now, and whilst they don't cohabit, they holiday together and date ecetera. I asked my friend if she saw this as a long-term thing, and she said yes as they're talking marriage. I asked her about his cheating on his DW, and was this a concern. She believes not, and she will always be enough for him. She's slightly offended that I have raised this.

Got me thinking, do they really change, or is it a case of once a cheat always a cheat?

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Netley · 03/11/2024 16:27

Well she never changed and I'm not intrested in anything shes doing, she known for it she's been married more times than Henry the eighth and I'm I wasn't commenting on me .

Reallyneedsaholiday · 03/11/2024 09:46

I don’t believe that “once a cheat, always a cheat”, people change circumstances change. If you want to keep her as a friend, you need to back off and let her live her life without judging her for her choices. You can’t tell her how to live her life.

Dinkydo12 · 03/11/2024 08:56

This isn't your business. You cannot dictate to someone how they live their life. If she talks to you and asks advice fair enough otherwise unless you want to lose her friendship I would just MYB.

Netley · 03/11/2024 07:03

Ive had my fill of cheats, once a cheat and a liar always one, a leopard never changes its spots , I wouldn't trust them a inch, I nearly got caught out but I I wouldn't marry her as I knew what she was about, so beware male and female if they cheated once they will do it again .

Pherian · 03/11/2024 00:14

Your friend is delusional and the best you can do is play along and watch 💩 hit the fan.

MotherOfOlafs · 02/11/2024 20:56

I ‘cheated’ on EXH, putting it in quotations as he’d been cheating on me and abusing me for years, I met someone kind and fell into a fling, I don’t regret it if I’m honest.

When I met my now DH years later I knew I would never do that again because he’s all I need.

7Purpleheartsarmy · 02/11/2024 20:51

My husband cheated just once and told me, he has always had a high sex drive and mine was pretty much 0 after kids then peri (now on hrt so somewhat normal)it is strange but before that happened i was always insecure now i feel stronger and actaully trust him more! He knows what he will lose if he does it again!!! And im in a better place so could manage without him!💪💪

Coconutter24 · 02/11/2024 20:02

Rascal741 · 28/10/2024 22:04

On one hand, I really worry she will get hurt. On the other hand, she was fully aware he lived with DW and DC. The DC will not have anything to do with her which I think will impact the relationship in future.

I suppose, as PP said, so many different variables involved it's hard to make a solid judgement call. I do not think I would ever relax fully in the relationship if this was the foundation.

I do not think I would ever relax fully in the relationship if this was the foundation.

It’s not your relationship so I think you need to mind your own business. You’ve brought it up with her but she doesn’t want to hear what you have to say so just leave it. You will just end up ruining your friendship

Hippee · 02/11/2024 20:01

My uncle was an old goat who would try it on with any available female. He finally stopped cheating when he got older and realized he wouldn't get the opportunities for much longer and had better settle for what he'd got.

MobilityCat · 02/11/2024 19:49

People do change, but it’s also fair to wonder if past behavior might be a predictor of future actions. Your friend’s belief that she’ll be enough for him suggests she’s hopeful—and she may see something in him that you don’t. But, at the same time, it’s completely understandable for you to feel protective of her and want to make sure she’s not setting herself up for heartbreak.

It sounds like you’ve been really respectful and gentle in raising this with her, and even though it might have touched a nerve, you did it out of care. It's hard to be in this kind of situation as a friend, wanting the best for someone but also respecting their choices. Just being there for her, as you clearly have been, will matter a lot in the long run

Obimumkinobi · 02/11/2024 19:48

I'm sure his wife thought she was "enough" for him once, too.
I think the odds aren't in your friend's favour and personally, I wouldn't want to keep wondering if I was enough, whilst it's him who can't keep it in his trousers.

MillyMichaelson · 02/11/2024 19:20

No I don't think so.

I think you can fall in love with another person. I don't think that's necessarily something that has to be recycled throughout your life.

JollyZebra · 02/11/2024 19:15

She's an adult. It's not your decision to make and you should not influence her.

DoggingDave · 02/11/2024 19:09

Rascal741 · 28/10/2024 21:37

AIBU, to say, almost always once a cheat, always a cheat?

My friend of 20 years got herself involved with a married man. She said the relationship was done despite him still living with his DW and teen DC's. DW found out, distraught and removed him from family home, so I imagine she wasn't aware the marriage was dead. They have continued a relationship. Its been 1.5yr now, and whilst they don't cohabit, they holiday together and date ecetera. I asked my friend if she saw this as a long-term thing, and she said yes as they're talking marriage. I asked her about his cheating on his DW, and was this a concern. She believes not, and she will always be enough for him. She's slightly offended that I have raised this.

Got me thinking, do they really change, or is it a case of once a cheat always a cheat?

The old Dog with 2 dicks be onto the next in no time

DoTheDinosaurStomp · 02/11/2024 17:29

I mean they clearly both have the same kind of morals so his behaviour probably doesn't faze her.

BalletCat · 02/11/2024 17:25

I don't believe it to be true. I know people who cheated because they were unhappy in their relationships then stayed faithful to the replacements for decades afterwards.

I happy people cheat. People don't just cheat for the sake of it. If they are happy with their replacement then they don't cheat again.

IcyLilacZebra · 02/11/2024 17:01

I don't know how anyone can be the other DW and know about it and vice versa for the man it's 🤮 anyway I wouldn't trust a man personally who cheated that's my opinion I would always think he would do it to me thankfully I'm not single and married and wouldn't even ever distrust my dh

KimberleyClark · 02/11/2024 17:00

If he did it for you he’ll do it to you.

Kerri44 · 02/11/2024 16:58

I've cheated twice in the past.....one relationship where he mentally abused me for basically 8yrs, calling me fat and saying no one was desperate to have me....so I cheated! 2nd was my 1st marriage, my ex husband was/is an alcoholic and alcohol was his priority, I was daft and thought I'd change him....I cheated with my now husband, we've been together 10yrs and have 2 children and 4 angel babies, which could have broke us but never once have I ever thought about cheating.....we are in a loving equal respectful relationship....both my exes when I tried to leave threatened suicide, 2nd did try once we split up.....he's now on his 2nd divorce after a year of marriage and 1st got done for DV on his next partner to me

Hereforaglance · 02/11/2024 16:52

She could cheat to once a home wrecker always a home wrecker

FasterMichelin · 29/10/2024 07:42

She must have very low self confidence and he is probably a big bull shitter.

I feel for her as he'll obviously do the same again. He was probably trying to win back his wife for a while after being chucked out, all the while sleeping with your friend telling her what she wanted to hear.

BlastedPimples · 29/10/2024 07:38

Nothing is certain.

But I think that once someone has found they can get away with something, the repercussions weren't too bad and the rewards were immense (ego boost, passionate sex made more exciting because of the secrecy, general highs of a new romance) then I think they have crossed a boundary and will be more likely to do it again.

Luckingfovely · 28/10/2024 22:53

No one can possibly claim that human behaviour is so simple or easily categorised in terms of black and white.

Is someone who has cheated more likely to cheat again than someone who never has?

Yes, very probably.

Is that absolute and definitive? Of course not.

Caution is advised, of course.

WigglyVonWaggly · 28/10/2024 22:23

I don’t believe this because I know a case where this hasn’t been true. I know a couple who met when they were both married. They both married young and were unhappy. They had an affair for a year, split up because of the guilt and went non contact. Their individual marriages both resulted in divorce. Years later, they found themselves working together, rekindled things and have been together for 20 years. They’ve never looked elsewhere.

I think that’s very different to people who are just self-sabotagers or hugely selfish and who spend their lives cheating on DPs and spouses. There’s no changing them because they probably need therapy to work out why they keep ruining good things.

Soapsy · 28/10/2024 22:19

No. It's a massive oversimplification and assumes all cheating is identical. It isn't.