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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

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vegaspot · 28/10/2024 23:24

We had my 60th and my daughter 30th in the same Month . We went to OXO tower including her 3 year old ,had a lovely day checking out the Southbank …absolutely no drama 🤦‍♀️

MillyMollyMandy01 · 28/10/2024 23:12

Ask your nanny if she has any nanny friends who would be willing to cover one of the evenings. Explain the situation to her calmly and less emotionally than this post, and you might find she even offers herself….but if not, she might have a friend who would. If not, don’t you have a friend who you could offer to do a babysit swap with for an evening when she wants to go out?

Daffyyellow · 28/10/2024 23:11

You pay the Nanny you get to choose which evening you get to celebrate.

IIWY I would celebrate my own birthday using the Nanny to babysit. No question, you pay, you choose, your birthday is more important to you than MIL’s.

Then for MIL, give her the choice - you attend with DC for as long as they cope or you don’t go.

KnittingKnewbie · 28/10/2024 23:01

Josette77 · 28/10/2024 22:50

Your toddler will be fine staying with a disinterested grandma for a few hours.

Or I would boom your party for later at night, put toddler to bed and then go out. Your parents can stay with her then. Or have nanny put her down and parents stay.

Or, have nanny bring her kids for the night, or take DD home for the night, and pay an overnight fee.

The disinterested grandma is the MIL. She's going to be at her own party that night and not around for OP's birthday in order to babysit then

TaraRhu · 28/10/2024 23:00

Can't mil babysit on your birthday? If she's around she might as well get involved. Then you can go out to the fancy place she wants on her bday.

Couldn't you also do a fancy lunch with milk when you have the nanny? Surely you could reserve somewhere at 12. You can't take an afternoon off ,

angstridden2 · 28/10/2024 22:59

Just don’t go. You don’t want to anyway. You don’t like your MIL much which is fine, most people on Mumsnet seem to dislike them, generally because they’re dominating/narcissistic/overbearing (delete as appropriate).

KnittingKnewbie · 28/10/2024 22:58

bittertwisted · 28/10/2024 22:47

Err the fact 'agency nanny' is a thing would suggest a good few people are happy to trust them

Lol Fair point.
I'd imagine it's for older children and/or when there has been time to meet a few times and get the child used to this new person. It doesn't seem like OP has a lot of time before the birthday though

Flossflower · 28/10/2024 22:56

bittertwisted · 28/10/2024 22:43

@Flossflower did you allow your children to go to friends without you, or to sleepovers?

I find these arguments very patronising, with the posters who never use agencies etc judging more relaxed parents. The Lucy Letby comment is a perfect example, I'm so much better a parent than you because I see danger in everything.

My personal view is this level of child centric catastrophising and obsession is damaging. If others want to do it crack on, but don't look down your noses at us who feel a more relaxed and trusting upbringing is better. Plus I don't want my children to 'cry for mummy', I want them feel happy and safe with a wider group of carers

Yes of course my children went friend‘s houses. This was after they started school so around 4/5. They went to sleepovers later. I just would not leave them with strangers. My children were absolutely fine starting nursery and school. and they both had loads of friends and still do.
No where did I criticise parents who don’t feel the same way. It is just OPs child is young and she is entitled to feel how she does.

Miffylou · 28/10/2024 22:55

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 22:13

Life may be short but I want DC to reach adulthood and be in safe environments at all times. That's why I won't leave a toddler with an agency babysitter

Oh for goodness sake! Ask a friend then. Or ask a friend for the name of a babysitter they recommend, and introduce them to your DC beforehand. Or put the toddler to bed yourself, with your parents helping, and then go out, leaving your parents there. What’s the worst that could happen? Your DC wakes up and finds his/her grandparents/"Mummy's friend" still there?

Frozensnow · 28/10/2024 22:55

Justtakenthebait789 · 28/10/2024 22:51

I can’t believe some of the answers on here!

I am turning sixty soon and I wouldn’t dream of making such a silly fuss about my birthday!

In this situation it would be completely natural to me to work around my dil’s 30th birthday! And as the mother of a young child, of course her arrangements would take priority, I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t! In our family, all help goes to supporting mothers of young dc; bc that is when support is most needed!

And of course it’s more important that my dil celebrates her 30th birthday. That really is a milestone! I have celebrated my 30th, 40th and 50th and would be perfectly happy moving my 60th birthday to the afternoon or another day to suit everyone else.

And your dh is facilitating your mil’s selfish behaviour op. I think you are more than justified in feeling upset about that!

And quite right that you prioritise the safe-guarding of your toddler and not engage total strangers to look after her. As a mil I would totally support that decision; not rail against it!

You sound like a lovely mil

Frozensnow · 28/10/2024 22:54

GoldenPheasant · 28/10/2024 22:49

Have the relaxed evening off when you go out for MIL's birthday?

Why shouldn’t she have it for her own birthday though? Mil can have a nice relaxing meal whenever she likes, OP can’t

Justtakenthebait789 · 28/10/2024 22:51

I can’t believe some of the answers on here!

I am turning sixty soon and I wouldn’t dream of making such a silly fuss about my birthday!

In this situation it would be completely natural to me to work around my dil’s 30th birthday! And as the mother of a young child, of course her arrangements would take priority, I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t! In our family, all help goes to supporting mothers of young dc; bc that is when support is most needed!

And of course it’s more important that my dil celebrates her 30th birthday. That really is a milestone! I have celebrated my 30th, 40th and 50th and would be perfectly happy moving my 60th birthday to the afternoon or another day to suit everyone else.

And your dh is facilitating your mil’s selfish behaviour op. I think you are more than justified in feeling upset about that!

And quite right that you prioritise the safe-guarding of your toddler and not engage total strangers to look after her. As a mil I would totally support that decision; not rail against it!

Josette77 · 28/10/2024 22:50

Your toddler will be fine staying with a disinterested grandma for a few hours.

Or I would boom your party for later at night, put toddler to bed and then go out. Your parents can stay with her then. Or have nanny put her down and parents stay.

Or, have nanny bring her kids for the night, or take DD home for the night, and pay an overnight fee.

CrystalSea · 28/10/2024 22:50

I don’t really understand the point of this thread. You’ve made your decision already.

GoldenPheasant · 28/10/2024 22:49

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:24

Because it's my birthday and I deserve a relaxed evening off childcare

Have the relaxed evening off when you go out for MIL's birthday?

thing47 · 28/10/2024 22:48

None of those suitable for MIL

But what does this mean @anonymoush? They don't have to be suitable for your MIL, where you and your toddler are concerned they only have to be suitable for you. You're nearly 30, all grown up, your MIL doesn't get to insist on your presence.

You seem perfectly capable of being stroppy exerting your boundaries with posters on this thread, so channel some of that attitude and just repeat the options. 'These are you choices MIL. It can be earlier in the day / less formal / without me / with me but also with toddler. Pick the one you like best, there aren't any others.'

GoldenPheasant · 28/10/2024 22:48

Could your daughter stay overnight at your nanny's so she doesn't have to find a sitter for her own children?

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 28/10/2024 22:48

TianasBayou · 28/10/2024 20:35

Go out for one meal to celebrate both birthdays?

Seems obvious to me, too.

mikulkin · 28/10/2024 22:48

OP, someone suggested above, even if it is logistically difficult ask your sibling to babysit.

bittertwisted · 28/10/2024 22:47

KnittingKnewbie · 28/10/2024 22:46

This thread is nuts!!
OP has tried so many options and MIL only wants OP there without her child. OP has no babysitter. Parents not able, nanny not willing for whatever reason. And who leaves their children with a total stranger (agency nanny)?
I cannot get over how many people think OP is unreasonable when she has no childcare and given the MIL so many alternatives.
It's not OP insisting MIL includes her, it's MIL insisting OP goes without the toddler

Err the fact 'agency nanny' is a thing would suggest a good few people are happy to trust them

Frozensnow · 28/10/2024 22:47

I think yanbu at all. It’s your birthday too. You should have a lovely meal without running after a toddler. You’ve given options for mil- either you come with toddler or dh just goes alone. Your dh should be at your birthday meal- sounds like he’s just trying to placate his mum who’s being difficult.

I don’t think yabu re the babysitters either. I wouldn’t use someone I’ve never met before from an agency to babysit my kids. And you know your own parents would struggle. And your baby wouldn’t settle with mil which would mean you couldn’t relax at your own meal

KnittingKnewbie · 28/10/2024 22:46

This thread is nuts!!
OP has tried so many options and MIL only wants OP there without her child. OP has no babysitter. Parents not able, nanny not willing for whatever reason. And who leaves their children with a total stranger (agency nanny)?
I cannot get over how many people think OP is unreasonable when she has no childcare and given the MIL so many alternatives.
It's not OP insisting MIL includes her, it's MIL insisting OP goes without the toddler

Dawevi · 28/10/2024 22:45

I do think mil is being difficult as well though.

FlippityFloppityFlump · 28/10/2024 22:45

Several people have suggested your parents for familiarity with an agency babysitter to do more of the work. The fact you say this isn't suitable shows you do not want a solution and are making excuses

I would be very upset if my DH made excuses not to come to my Mum's significant birthday.

Why shouldn't MIL have a night out in a fancy restaurant with her adult family and their partners present? You want a childfree night out with family present!

You are coming across as very me, me, me

Dawevi · 28/10/2024 22:45

YABU. You're being deliberately difficult because you don't want to go and you think you've got a great excuse, but you don't.

Your nanny will know other nannies and at hearty one of those nannies will be happy to babysit for you. Or you can get on your local Facebook group and get recommendations for a good local babysitter.

You have a toddler not a newborn, they will be fine with someone new, and if they won't go to sleep for someone other than you or the nanny (mine never would) it won't kill them to be still up when you get home after the meal at 11/12.

If this was something you wanted to go to then you would be finding a way. If I was your husband I would be pissed off with you.