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Teens kicking off about nye party

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Hopelessinhomecounties · 27/10/2024 17:13

Wwyd. We want to have a bit of a party on new year. This would mean that our friends would come over and we’d let their kids come too if they wanted.
My kids are kicking off as they say it will be really awkward and they’ll have to host.
They know all the kids; most of the other kids know each other or have some connections between them.
When we’ve done this kind of thing before they’ve ended up having a good time. I’m worried that they are getting really closed. Covid didn’t help and they just have small groups of friends and that’s it. If kids came round they’d have gaming/films/games/hanging out loads to do! I don’t see a problem. But they are furious.
what have you don’t in this situation to get kids that don’t know each other really well have a party too and relax about hanging out…
when I was younger I got on with it if my parents had a party and I think it makes you more confident at new work places/ gyms / parties if you are used to just getting on with it.

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Goodtogossip · 29/10/2024 10:25

If you want to have a party then have a party but don't expect your kids to want to join in. If they don't want to don't force them to. It's their home so they can take themselves off to their rooms & do their own thing. I'm sure once everyone arrives & they see the other kids they'll come around & start mixing & doing things together. If you've set up a separate space for games, movies etc for the younger lot encourage your friends kids to use this space & mention to your 2 xxx is in the games room if you fancy joining them, then leave it up to them to decide what they want to do. Have you asked your 2 if they would like to invite one of their friends over to the party. This might be an idea so they have a close mate with them.

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 10:08

YourCheeryRoseHedgehog · 29/10/2024 09:01

If I were your kids I'd be going to stay with Grandparents for a quiet night. It sounds horrendous.

You sound fun!!

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 10:08

MoonRiverDancing · 29/10/2024 08:56

But the friends don’t bring along their parents for the op to entertain at same time! I don’t imagine the kids are opposed to parent’s friends coming over just the kids too.

It’s an awkward stage - our eldest doesn’t get on with the children of our friends now they all go to secondary school together. It’s a shame but we just socialise as adults now. Last year he was willing to suck it up for us to all go for NYE but I don’t think he’d want to do that this year and that’s fine with us.

I absolutely did have to entertain my children’s friends parents for years between the ages of 2 and 6/7 for each child! Week in and week out for each child.

Mosalahiwoukd · 29/10/2024 09:05

Washingforweeks · 28/10/2024 07:20

‘Why should children always come first’ really??

Yes really! They’ll be fine, and able to cooe
with their parents doing something for themselves for one night.

SageBlossomBunny · 29/10/2024 09:04

Yes I think the option to go somewhere else would be good!

If other kids weren't coming then having a few of your own friends for a sleepover would be fun but entertaining randoms truly isn't.

YourCheeryRoseHedgehog · 29/10/2024 09:01

If I were your kids I'd be going to stay with Grandparents for a quiet night. It sounds horrendous.

MoonRiverDancing · 29/10/2024 08:56

Larrythebloodycat · 27/10/2024 17:40

How many times have you put up with your children's friends in your home, fed them, entertained them? Probably a lot more often than your kids realise.

But the friends don’t bring along their parents for the op to entertain at same time! I don’t imagine the kids are opposed to parent’s friends coming over just the kids too.

It’s an awkward stage - our eldest doesn’t get on with the children of our friends now they all go to secondary school together. It’s a shame but we just socialise as adults now. Last year he was willing to suck it up for us to all go for NYE but I don’t think he’d want to do that this year and that’s fine with us.

Naunet · 29/10/2024 08:51

Pippetypoppity · 28/10/2024 21:39

I think you’re being unreasonable I’m afraid. It’s their home and their New Years too. They don’t have anywhere else to go after all. In their position I’d hate to have a random lot of other peoples family descend on my home and have to join in and host them all night. Particularly on an evening which could otherwise be fun and special with just my own family. I think you might feel the same if they collected together a group of adults you hardly knew and asked you to be hospitable and welcoming to them, by yourselves as they had their own friends to talk to. On top of that not just for a couple of hours but all evening - til gone midnight !!! Asking other mums here if they think you’re being unreasonable is not fair and representative. If you asked a chat forum and of teens you’d get a very different answer then you’d get from other people our age I’m sure! Sometimes we forget how difficult it is to be an ‘awkward’ teen. They’ll grow out of it and have their own parties one day I’m sure. They’ll even turn up to yours and contribute im sure. Just not yet, and that’s fair enough surely. Make nice happy family memories together now whilst you still can. Life’s too short to make a problem of this. There will be plenty of opportunities for big house parties when your kids are old enough to get away and do their own thing.

Edited

Well sometimes we have to do things we don’t want to do, sometimes we have to regulate our own emotions. Neither of these things are bad skills for kids to learn. There’s so much pandering and prioritising kids demands these days I don’t think it does them any good at all.

Natsku · 29/10/2024 08:35

GreyCarpet · 29/10/2024 07:08

I think the scenario you have described is very different to the one the OP is envisaging from what has been said.

Some people expect 'the kids' to he kept out of the way so that adult conversation/fun isn't interrupted.

For teenagers who are expected to do that, it's not a welcomed social opportunity or a bit awkward until you've got to know people, it's an evening of being expected to entertain other people's children, keep them quiet and out of the way so the adults don't have to deal with them. Any boredom, poor behaviour, accidental breakages or spillages become something the teens are held responsible and told off for because they're older and the ones in charge and someone had to be responsible and the parents don't want to tell someone else's child off or cause a scene by addressing the parents, so the teens get it. And the guests aren't managing their children properly because they're a bit tipsy, and it's the babysitters job. Only the babysitters weren't asked, didn't agree to it and certainly aren't getting paid for it.

Don't pretend that it's the same as going to a party as an adult where you don't know anyone but can drift around the room making small talk with whoever you like until you find someone you want to chat with.

And, whilst I appreciate that there are lots of different experiences and Los of diffeent families, the crucial thing is that, in this case, the OP's children have said they don't want to be put in that position so they must have a reason to assume they might have experienced this before and I think, at their ages, it's reasonable to take their needs into account too.

And its ok to expect teenagers to do things like that sometimes. They are part of a family and being part of a family means sometimes doing something you don't particularly want to do for the good of the family, like parents putting up with their children's friends coming round all the time, or taking their children to visit friends or to activities.
Growing up I was often expected to do things like entertain smaller children that were visiting, or cook dinner when mum couldn't, or give up my bedroom for guests and sleep on the sofa or an airbed on the floor somewhere. It caused no harm, and taught me the importance of pulling together as a family. I expect similar from my children.

SageBlossomBunny · 29/10/2024 07:58

I think OP is expecting the 9 year old to be entertained by her kids so the kids are all out he way...

GreyCarpet · 29/10/2024 07:27

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 07:15

Except a 9 year doesn’t actually need ‘looking after‘ ! They are not babies for heavens sake.

Edited

No, but they can be pretty annoying if you're 14 and want to do competely different things to you but you're all expected to hang out together for an evening.

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 07:15

GreyCarpet · 29/10/2024 07:14

Bedrooms are off limits in our house, so they could always relax there if they need to.

That's a very generous offer!

Offering the bedrooms in your house as a sanctuary for the teens if it all gets too much.

Oh, wait, you weren't offering that were you? You just can't conceive of your experience not being everybody's experience.

I don't see how anyone can't fathom that a 13/14 year old might not relish the idea of giving up an entire evening to look after/entertain someone else's 8/9 year olds so the grown ups can have fun.

Except a 9 year doesn’t actually need ‘looking after‘ ! They are not babies for heavens sake.

GreyCarpet · 29/10/2024 07:14

Bedrooms are off limits in our house, so they could always relax there if they need to.

That's a very generous offer!

Offering the bedrooms in your house as a sanctuary for the teens if it all gets too much.

Oh, wait, you weren't offering that were you? You just can't conceive of your experience not being everybody's experience.

I don't see how anyone can't fathom that a 13/14 year old might not relish the idea of giving up an entire evening to look after/entertain someone else's 8/9 year olds so the grown ups can have fun.

GreyCarpet · 29/10/2024 07:08

Natsku · 29/10/2024 06:24

In this situation they do know the other children as they've been to parties with them before so its not really strangers or even vague acquaintances as they'll have played with them when they were younger.

But I am going to a party this weekend, for the whole weekend, and I don't know a single person there apart from my partner. It'll be awkward at first but I'm sure I'll have a good time in the end. Many times I've got to events where I don't know anyone, or just one or two, that's quite normal I think.

I think the scenario you have described is very different to the one the OP is envisaging from what has been said.

Some people expect 'the kids' to he kept out of the way so that adult conversation/fun isn't interrupted.

For teenagers who are expected to do that, it's not a welcomed social opportunity or a bit awkward until you've got to know people, it's an evening of being expected to entertain other people's children, keep them quiet and out of the way so the adults don't have to deal with them. Any boredom, poor behaviour, accidental breakages or spillages become something the teens are held responsible and told off for because they're older and the ones in charge and someone had to be responsible and the parents don't want to tell someone else's child off or cause a scene by addressing the parents, so the teens get it. And the guests aren't managing their children properly because they're a bit tipsy, and it's the babysitters job. Only the babysitters weren't asked, didn't agree to it and certainly aren't getting paid for it.

Don't pretend that it's the same as going to a party as an adult where you don't know anyone but can drift around the room making small talk with whoever you like until you find someone you want to chat with.

And, whilst I appreciate that there are lots of different experiences and Los of diffeent families, the crucial thing is that, in this case, the OP's children have said they don't want to be put in that position so they must have a reason to assume they might have experienced this before and I think, at their ages, it's reasonable to take their needs into account too.

SageBlossomBunny · 29/10/2024 06:47

Hmm saving I think OP IS expecting her kids to babysit the kids so they're out the way of the adults.

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 06:45

SpoonyNavyGoose · 29/10/2024 06:29

Tell your friends who are bringing children that they will need to entertain and make sure they have a good time, and not to expect yours to just look after them. It may happen that the kids all get along really well, which is what usually happens, but the visiting parents need to know they can’t just expect this and leave the kids to it while they party. Do you have a separate room they can go in to watch tv / play games without going to your kids rooms? Your kids would probably join in with them given the opportunity to do so at their own pace.

I find it staggering it would need pointing out. Maybe I have been lucky but my friends have always taken responsibility for their own dc. They will bring their own games, toys and things to do, they regularly check on their children and usually leave when they are tired or have had enough. No way would we expect teens to effectively baby sit them under any circumstances.

We take care of our children at family parties. Obviously at adult parties we all have babysitters, and it’s a different type of party sometimes. This is a family NY party and likely to be lovely and child and teen friendky with plenty of parents around to care for them.

Gnomy · 29/10/2024 06:32

I thought you were going to say they’re sick of babysitting or something. If thats not the case, I’d have a games/movie (whatever) room set up and crack on.

SpoonyNavyGoose · 29/10/2024 06:29

Tell your friends who are bringing children that they will need to entertain and make sure they have a good time, and not to expect yours to just look after them. It may happen that the kids all get along really well, which is what usually happens, but the visiting parents need to know they can’t just expect this and leave the kids to it while they party. Do you have a separate room they can go in to watch tv / play games without going to your kids rooms? Your kids would probably join in with them given the opportunity to do so at their own pace.

Natsku · 29/10/2024 06:24

another1bitestheduck · 28/10/2024 19:23

yes but do you regularly go to parties with just vague acquaintances and strangers? Or are you talking about, for example, something like going to a wedding where you are friends with people and then talking to their friends and partners, which is completely different?

You invite people you don't know into your house to socialise? How do you meet them to invite them in the first place if you don't know them? Or, again, are you talking about friends/new partners of friends which is a completely different thing?

I would suggest you are a bit of an outlier on MN where the majority of people feel insulted at being expected to leave the house to meet up with their best friend of 30 years 😁. But even the more sociable would surely prefer to spend time with friends rather than randoms? If I was asked to use my limited free time going for a meal with my actual friends or the people I see at my step class once a week it wouldn't be a hard choice....

but well done on your super friendly sociable kids 👏

In this situation they do know the other children as they've been to parties with them before so its not really strangers or even vague acquaintances as they'll have played with them when they were younger.

But I am going to a party this weekend, for the whole weekend, and I don't know a single person there apart from my partner. It'll be awkward at first but I'm sure I'll have a good time in the end. Many times I've got to events where I don't know anyone, or just one or two, that's quite normal I think.

Savingthehedgehogs · 29/10/2024 05:57

You are right this thread is the epitome of precious parenting.

You can see precisely how these children are like Veronica from Willy Wonka, they are not encouraged to try new things or move out of their comfort zone ever. Likely to grow up rigid, inflexible and struggling to make and keep friends. A few hours socialising once in a blue moon will not harm them at all, particularly if their own chosen friends are also there!

Bedrooms are off limits in our house, so they could always relax there if they need to. Jeez. No wonder our generation is called ❄️

ToNiceWithSpice · 29/10/2024 03:09

Anyone would think 9 is a baby, my almost 9 year old nephew and 12 year old son get on great, they play games, go on the switch together and my almost 14 year old is perfectly able to spend a few hours in the company of nephews, nieces, cousins and even his older brothers little sisters once in a while

There could be a couple of children around the 9 age for all anyone here knows who'll keep each other company

No wonder so many children refuse to try new things or anything they don't like judging from some of these posts

Reserved101 · 29/10/2024 00:07

another1bitestheduck · 28/10/2024 22:56

but OP has said they have a social life - with their own friends!
They (understandably) aren't bothered about making friends and socialising with a 9 year old child when they are 14....so why would they put in effort for something that they don't want?

Yup. At that age I expect they'll want to go to a party with their actual friends/peers, rather than entertaining some younger kids they barely know (realistically, are any but the youngest kids going to come?)

another1bitestheduck · 28/10/2024 22:56

Savingthehedgehogs · 28/10/2024 21:36

You don’t need to be a social butterfly to be civill and say hello, eat some food and consider the importance of connection, company and friendship! An introvert’s ability to always put themselves first before all else needs to be considered here. If you want friends and a social life you do need to put some effort in…

but OP has said they have a social life - with their own friends!
They (understandably) aren't bothered about making friends and socialising with a 9 year old child when they are 14....so why would they put in effort for something that they don't want?

Savingthehedgehogs · 28/10/2024 21:59

Washingforweeks · 28/10/2024 21:52

Have you seen the age differences 9-17? I can tell you now they won’t be making friends.
it’s not a cordial come say hi and eat food. It’s you lot stay out our way and amuse yourselves, and if you can make sure the young ones are okay too great thanks.

😂😂

Washingforweeks · 28/10/2024 21:52

Savingthehedgehogs · 28/10/2024 21:36

You don’t need to be a social butterfly to be civill and say hello, eat some food and consider the importance of connection, company and friendship! An introvert’s ability to always put themselves first before all else needs to be considered here. If you want friends and a social life you do need to put some effort in…

Have you seen the age differences 9-17? I can tell you now they won’t be making friends.
it’s not a cordial come say hi and eat food. It’s you lot stay out our way and amuse yourselves, and if you can make sure the young ones are okay too great thanks.