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Arguing with an old lady

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MrsTurner3 · 27/10/2024 16:38

I was at an old run down shopping centre today. I had my 4 year old walking and my 1 year old in the buggy and needed to get the only working lift so I stood waiting for about 5 minutes for it for to up and down past my floor several times before it finally stopped for us. I had noticed an old (70s ish) lady stood waiting behind us and as the lift stopped and everyone piled out she edged her way around us to be first outside the door.

I should say here that I hate people who jump queues and think they are entitled to things more than other people. It's a big peeve of mine.

I just knew she was making her way to get in there first so I started pushing the buggy towards the lift and she turned around and said " Are you going up or down?" I said down (I'd pressed the down button outside). And she said "Oh well I'm going up, so we will go up first, and then you can go down". I was annoyed and replied "Well no, since I've been waiting longer we will go down first and then you can go up." She got in the lift and pressed the button for her floor and then said "Oh look, my floor has already been pressed by someone." She had a smug smile on her face.

Maybe I need some therapy to understand why people being smug and entitled triggers me so much - anyway as I'm getting into the lift I blurted out "You are so rude you know. First you push in front of me, then you tell me I have to wait for you to go to your floor and then I can go to mine, then you blatantly lie to get your own way and look really happy about it". She said that when I get to her age I will understand and I said something along the lines of "Just because you are old, it doesn't entitle you to get your own way and do whatever you want". She got out of the lift and laughed at me and walked off.

I wish I had kept my cool. I had to explain to my 4 year old that mummy was standing up to someone being rude and trying to get their own way, but I think the message of "don't be a pushover" will have been lost to the image of me just arguing with an old lady.

I know I could have done better, but am I totally unreasonable for not wanting to be a people pleasing pushover and for actually standing up to people, regardless of their age? If she had been feeling unwell or looked infirm and at least asked if we could go to her floor first rather than tell me, I'd more than likely have said yes.

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Nanny0gg · 27/10/2024 17:35

LetThereBeLove · 27/10/2024 17:12

Wait until you are old!

I'm her age. I wouldn't have behaved like that

ilovesooty · 27/10/2024 17:35

Shitzngiggles · 27/10/2024 17:32

Cos it's yet another elderly bashing thread.

I think it is, but the OP has ensured she included the lady's comment so that it looks less like one. It won't stop the elderly bashing replies of course.

Sethera · 27/10/2024 17:33

People have lost all sense of being gracious to one another. The older lady 'started it' in this instance and then the OP carried it on, achieving nothing but bad feeling. I could understand if this was some matter of great magnitude, but it's a few minutes extra in a lift. Neither party has shown themselves in a very good light here.

Shitzngiggles · 27/10/2024 17:32

CurlewKate · 27/10/2024 17:01

And her age is relevant because?

Cos it's yet another elderly bashing thread.

Screamingabdabz · 27/10/2024 17:32

She sounds like a smug git but you gave as good as you got op. Let it go now.

5128gap · 27/10/2024 17:30

You don't need to 'stand up for yourself' about who gets in a lift first or which floor you go to first OP. Standing up for yourself is for things that actually matter. Going at an elderly woman for a bit of petty selfishness doesn't fall into that category and you're right, wasn't great in front of your DC. Assertiveness is an excellent thing to aspire to, but truly assertive people tend to pick their battles. Going for the soft option and challenging someone weaker than you over something so trivial is getting closer to aggression than assertiveness.

ilovesooty · 27/10/2024 17:29

MrsTurner3 · 27/10/2024 17:06

As I said, she had later said to me that when I get to her age I will understand, so yes, for context it is relevant.

Yes I saw that that comment was part of your story.
I suspect however she would be rude regardless of age.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 27/10/2024 17:27

You were in the right. Don't stress. At least you didnt tell her to FO in front of the 4 year old.

MereDintofPandiculation · 27/10/2024 17:25

CurlewKate · 27/10/2024 17:01

And her age is relevant because?

to be fair, because of her comment "when you get to my age"

MereDintofPandiculation · 27/10/2024 17:24

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So are some young people. and some middle aged people.

GhostCicada · 27/10/2024 17:22

I don't know, the whole thing is a lot of stress over nothing. There was only you and her, why does it matter who gets in the lift first? You were both going to be able to go into it anyway.

And who goes to their floor first, well in the end the lift decides doesn't it. When ever I have been in a lift and people get in everyone just presses their floor and you get what you get.

I have a strong sense of justice but for things that matter. I'm far too lazy to get into a slanging match with someone over who steps into the lift first and who presses the button first. The idea of getting that worked up over something so small is exhausting. I don't blame the lady for laughing you off and not getting sucked into the drama.

LittleRedYarny · 27/10/2024 17:14

This kind of thing winds me up no end too OP - I have a very strong sense of “justice sensitivity” and it’s rage inducing when triggered.

However, I do have to have a little chat with my justice sensitivity part on occasion when it gets too rampaging because in the end the person that is being upset and having their day ruined is me and not the total bellend that triggered me… its easier said than done though!

DappledThings · 27/10/2024 17:13

I'm not sure what you think you've done wrong. From the way you've described it you told someone who was behaving rudely that they were behaving rudely. Unless it wasn't as you've described and you were actually yelling and swearing then what's the problem?

Raindropskeepfallinonmyhead · 27/10/2024 17:13

I think you handled it perfectly op

LetThereBeLove · 27/10/2024 17:12

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Wait until you are old!

ScamanthaBrick · 27/10/2024 17:06

CurlewKate · 27/10/2024 17:01

And her age is relevant because?

Have you read the post? 🙄 “She said that when I get to her age I will understand” Entitled lady was the one to mention age, not the OP!
Edit: cross posted with OP

MrsTurner3 · 27/10/2024 17:06

CurlewKate · 27/10/2024 17:01

And her age is relevant because?

As I said, she had later said to me that when I get to her age I will understand, so yes, for context it is relevant.

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Mountainpika · 27/10/2024 17:03

I'm 77 and certainly would never behave like that old woman!

MrsTurner3 · 27/10/2024 17:03

DreamW3aver · 27/10/2024 16:54

If you'd pressed down and then when you got it the lift it went up doesn't that mean it wasnt stopping for you? Isn't that how lifts normally work, if her floor was already pressed it never would have gone down whoever got in first

We were the only people waiting who had pressed the button. The up button wasn't pressed, so it could only have stopped for us. I don't know why it then went up to her floor first but I was bloody annoyed when it did.

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CustardySergeant · 27/10/2024 17:03

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I am an old woman of 70 and I agree with you. Some old people are so entitled. So are some young people and some middle-aged people.

CurlewKate · 27/10/2024 17:01

And her age is relevant because?

Anotherparkingthread · 27/10/2024 17:00

She sounds like quite funny 😂 love me a bonkers old lady who gives zero shits.

Ilovecakey · 27/10/2024 16:56

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DreamW3aver · 27/10/2024 16:54

If you'd pressed down and then when you got it the lift it went up doesn't that mean it wasnt stopping for you? Isn't that how lifts normally work, if her floor was already pressed it never would have gone down whoever got in first

Stormyweatheroutthere · 27/10/2024 16:51

Total strangers aren't obligated to pander to her whims though..? Demanding a particular space in a lift, table in a cafe... She made me cringe at times... When she gave her entire estate to her new carer I begrudged that woman not 1 k of the thousands she got. . She had earned it.. Though keeping all my family China was a bit greedy imo.