Nervous/anxious/scared about the Autumn budget 2024

Ah yes that fits. A pre GE lie but it's ok, are you getting pay rises or tax rises?

Yawn.

The payrises cost £9.4 billion. That was just the raises, then add a big lump later down the line for the extra pension payments on already very generous pensions.

There is also talk of the public sector being exempt from the NI increase on employers pension contributions.

The public sector pension deficit is currently around £2.6 trillion. Yes trillion, that's 2,600 billion pounds. Guess who will have to pay it.

The payrises cost £9.4 billion. That was just the raises, then add a big lump later down the line for the extra pension payments on already very generous pensions.

There is also talk of the public sector being exempt from the NI increase on employers pension contributions.

The public sector pension deficit is currently around £2.6 trillion. Yes trillion, that's 2,600 billion pounds. Guess who will have to pay it.

Did you also talk about 'fully funded, fully costed' as Labour did pre GE?

Yes I am absolutely serious, why else would I have said it?

You know when you have a gut feeling? I have one & I absolutely doubt LP will improve things. Infact, I am sure that in a year, things will be worse or at the very least, the same.

Still nothing about how he proposes to start fixing NHS.

You are talking unmitigated horseshit.

The Tories blamed Labour at THIS LAST ELECTION.

Labour's pay rises for nurses, railway workers and doctors have stopped the strikes and will lift the productivity of our economy. (It's not billions).

The budget will unlock investment in housing, energy and infrastructure that our country is crying out for.

Oh right, ok keep blaming the tories as they did it at an election years ago

Labour has black hole as in the first six weeks they spent billions on pay rises we couldn’t afford. And now we all have to pay for it. It’s not the tories, we all know the economy was righting itself. Interest rates dropping, but they fucked it. We all watched, watched labour spend spend spend and cow tow to the unions again and now they are scrabbling about looking to tax everyone.

and it’s going to be a shit show for the next four years. If you think for one moment you’re going to see marked improvements for the money, you are sadly mistaken,

Labour has black hole as in the first six weeks they spent billions on pay rises we couldn’t afford

you don’t really believe this surely? Are you having us on?

From what I've heard, social housing rents might be means tested and households with higher income might pay more. I could be wrong, 🤔 😔

I don’t think you mean illegal immigration. Illegal immigrants don’t tend to cost anything as they don’t get anything at all - they’re illegal so can’t come in contact with the authorities in any way.
I suspect you mean asylum seekers - they are costing so much because the Tories basically stopped assessing claims so the numbers built up, in hotels being paid for by us because state facilities were full. Maybe think about who that might have benefitted (clue: it’s not the asylum seekers).

Tories had 14 years. Labour 4 months or so. You’re not serious are you ? Any fool knows the absolute mess they left us in will take longer than a few months to remedy.

What are labour doing about illegal immigration - this is costing the tax payer millions per day. For me this is why the country is on its knee’s. I’m sorry but unless this government get a grip on this then no amount of increase in tax will make this country better.

@BIossomtos Why would they throw away their documents, or choose not to stop in the first safe country? The journey to the U.K. is long, and entire Europe isn’t war-torn. So what’s really motivating them to make this trek. It's definitely not good weather...

What are labour doing about illegal immigration - this is costing the tax payer millions per day. For me this is why the country is on its knee’s. I’m sorry but unless this government get a grip on this then no amount of increase in tax will make this country better.

What are labour doing about illegal immigration - this is costing the tax payer millions per day. For me this is why the country is on its knee’s. I’m sorry but unless this government get a grip on this then no amount of increase in tax will make this country better.

This is bizarre, you're better off not pushing people off than this

Absolutely this!

I voted Labour and so far I am not impressed.

They have managed to:

• go for pensioners
• scare vulnerable, disabled people who now fear they will lose the little money they get from the state
• fail to keep the bus fare £2 cap (although buses are more likely to be used by the lower paid and are a lifeline for people in rural areas)
• leave small business with the real possibility of having to make some of their staff redundant, or at least put a freeze on pay rises, if the budget increases their national insurance contribution.

Meanwhile they:

• are still allowing utility companies to fleece us
• have failed to announce any measure to make big corporate companies and wealthy individuals pay their fair share of tax
• have failed to look at reforming MPs' expenses so that they are not getting all their bills and housing subsidised by the taxpayer while the average worker struggles
• are watering down their long awaited reform to workers' right
• agreed public sector pay rises that we can't even afford.

Basically I did not vote to get the Tories 2.0 in power.

Blaming the Tories for everything is also getting really old as an excuse.

If Labour wanted to do what's best for the country they would also accept that we can't afford to prop up foreign aid and the war in Ukraine endlessly while we have people in this country who don't have money to eat proper meals and keep warm.

Do better Starmer.

So no 90 day rule ? (that applies to us plebs only obvs). So a Tory Brexit consigns vast majority of the UK to the UK, whilst high earners can flounce off whenever ? Great.

So no 90 day rule ? (that applies to us plebs only obvs). So a Tory Brexit consigns vast majority of the UK to the UK, whilst high earners can flounce off whenever ? Great.

@BIossomtoes But do they even want to work? Many discard their documents before arriving, making it difficult to identify them. How can we expect to integrate people into the workforce if we can’t verify who they are?

What are labour doing about illegal immigration - this is costing the tax payer millions per day. For me this is why the country is on its knee’s. I’m sorry but unless this government get a grip on this then no amount of increase in tax will make this country better.